Page 1 of 2

Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:19 pm
by thomas1897
Larry Nance Jr brings to the Lakers all around skill set. No other forward has those capabilities with the exception of Deng before injuries came. Nance is younger and plays exceptional defense no other forward has that capability of playing a small or big player. He reminds you of a young Michael Cooper. His offensive skills require some work and at the NBA level; he should be able to sharpen his offensive skill set and select situations to shoot, pass or post up. The Lakers should help him with Deng and if James Worthy is available also. This year is a pivotal year for Julius Randle if he does not show consistency in all areas of his game then the Lakers' should move on either by trading him and acquiring other needed assets. Nance can play with any other forward on the team beside him because of his defense, versatility and energy. Another player who is not as seasoned as Larry Nance is Anthony Brown but has the defensive skills but inconsistent offensive skills. This is a year for the Lakers to evaluate if there is a future for Brown either as a wing man for the 2 or 3 position and there is an opportunity behind Russell and Clarkson. Brown has to demonstrate that he is good enough and fundamental sound to remain on this team or the Lakers will move in a different direction. The other forwards Yi Jianlian and Tarik Black will be used as reserves but will be competing for playing time. Travis Wear, Thomas Robinson and Zach Auguste three players competing for one roster spot or the instructional league. This is going to be very interesting. The big men have to be considered also.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:57 am
by TKainZero
Love nance. He is big and athletic. Probably lakers most exciting/athletic player since Shannon brown.

He can get thrown on the hardest to guard players because of his combination is size and speed. (Lebron/simmions/dramond)


I disliked the mozgov and lent signing because it is going to take a lot of mins away from nance. With the roster clutter at pf/c I think nance is going to see the most chances at SF. Meaning, he needs to develop his 3pt to become reliable.

Brown is a defensive ace. Dude can defend the best player pg-SG-SF. He gave durrant a great battle. If brown can just make the 3pt shot at an average clip, he should get 30 mins a game.

Really want lakers to take a long hard look at both of these guys.

Brown might be a perfect fit between Russell and Ingram at the SG spot.
Want to see nance get 22-30 mpg and 16-20 mpg for brown.

Need to see what they can do

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:35 am
by Mirjalovic
Randle has a promising rookie season and no, this year is not his make or break season.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:02 pm
by TylersLakers
I think having Anthony Brown on the team is a waste, to be honest.

Outside of his fundamentals on defence, he's useless. No athleticism. His outside shot is supposed to be good -- it's not, to this point.

I would rather have Thomas Robinson and MWP on the roster and have Brown released.

Nance and Randle will be a terror for opposing teams all year long. I think we may see a lot of situations when Mosgov goes to the bench, where those two play together for large chunks of time.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:31 pm
by lake_show
Don't sleep on Anthony Brown. Thomas Robinson and MWP are fine enough players but let's be honest... Niether of them is going to see many minutes, or be a valuable asset going forward.

Anthony Brown brings something to the table we don't already have. He's a taller player that can defend the SG spot (Along with the SF spot). If you don't think that's a big deal your fooling yourself. SG is one one of the most stacked positions in the league. Without AB we're stuck with either Russ, Lou, JC, Calderon, or Huertas defending opposing SG's. Neither of which is as good a defender as AB is at this point in their career.

Does AB need to learn to hit at least one 3 in his freak'n life?... ABSOLUTELY, YES!!! But it's easier to learn to shoot jumpers than it is to learn to be a very good defender. We had many stretches last year where we went on runs and he was on the court providing valuable defense. Does he desperately need to work on his shot?... YES!!! But, we have more than enough scorers on the team that his poor shooting doesnt affect us too bad. We don't have enough defenders tho. At this point his defense off the bench is invaluable. He would need to learn to consistently hit shots if ever has a dream of starting tho.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:31 pm
by dockingsched
Even though some think it's a foregone conclusion that Randle starts, the battle between he and Nance for the starting gig should be fun to watch. Nance had just a good of a shot at starting specifically if Luke prefers Nance superior defense, jump shot, and lack of ball stopping tendencies.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:04 pm
by crazyeights
TylersLakers wrote:I think having Anthony Brown on the team is a waste, to be honest.

Outside of his fundamentals on defence, he's useless. No athleticism. His outside shot is supposed to be good -- it's not, to this point.

I would rather have Thomas Robinson and MWP on the roster and have Brown released.

Nance and Randle will be a terror for opposing teams all year long. I think we may see a lot of situations when Mosgov goes to the bench, where those two play together for large chunks of time.


I think it's too early to give up on Brown. A lot of his issues offensively stem from confidence, IMO. Only way he's going to get over that is through experience. His ability to play and defend the wing is currently a rarity on our roster. Plus he's dirt cheap.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:42 pm
by Mirjalovic
Anthony Brown has sweet shooting form. I just realized his shooting # is bad because realgm/reddit/lakersground keep bitching about that.

He's gonna improve that, its common for rookie shooter to have a bad shooting year as a rookie.

And yes he's our best perimeter defender with Luol Deng


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:28 pm
by TKainZero
TylersLakers wrote:I think having Anthony Brown on the team is a waste, to be honest.

Outside of his fundamentals on defence, he's useless. No athleticism. His outside shot is supposed to be good -- it's not, to this point.

I would rather have Thomas Robinson and MWP on the roster and have Brown released.

Nance and Randle will be a terror for opposing teams all year long. I think we may see a lot of situations when Mosgov goes to the bench, where those two play together for large chunks of time.


I think you are completely off base with brown.

We have no wing defenders outside of brown. He is desperately needed since we didn't sign a defensive wing.

Dude plays defense. Which none of our current pg,SF, or SG do.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:16 pm
by stan francisco
You either have a knack for scoring or not. Sure, practice helps but AB will never be a scorer. He's a solid defender, however, and we don't have anyone but MWP and AB to stop opposing wings. I say AB stays because defense is what wins rings. Fast breaks after AB stops with Russell, Ingram, Randle etc needs no coaching.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:24 pm
by TylersLakers
crazyeights wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:I think having Anthony Brown on the team is a waste, to be honest.

Outside of his fundamentals on defence, he's useless. No athleticism. His outside shot is supposed to be good -- it's not, to this point.

I would rather have Thomas Robinson and MWP on the roster and have Brown released.

Nance and Randle will be a terror for opposing teams all year long. I think we may see a lot of situations when Mosgov goes to the bench, where those two play together for large chunks of time.


I think it's too early to give up on Brown. A lot of his issues offensively stem from confidence, IMO. Only way he's going to get over that is through experience. His ability to play and defend the wing is currently a rarity on our roster. Plus he's dirt cheap.


We'll see. I hope he's something. :lol:

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:05 pm
by tugs
Brown can model his game to unathletic but high IQ guys like Bowen and Battier. He likes to shoot threes at the wings where it's farthest. Try at the corners.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:04 am
by SashaTheMachine
I hope we don't give up on brown this early. He can mature with the young guys and seems to have a really good demeanor and attitude about the game. It's always good to have smart, selfless players on the team that know their responsibilities. Yes, his shot hasn't been falling and that's essential for him if he wants to stay around. Though, I feel like it will come.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:06 am
by Pablo Escobar
Nance should start, Randle has tunnel vision so let him score with the bench unit. We can play the both of them together during stretches but I beleive Nance fits with Luke's style more, a hustle guy that doesn't need plays called for him. Super athletic as well, he said he can shoot the 3 now so I'm excited to see what he'll do this season.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:00 am
by cambomvmt
crazyeights wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:I think having Anthony Brown on the team is a waste, to be honest.

Outside of his fundamentals on defence, he's useless. No athleticism. His outside shot is supposed to be good -- it's not, to this point.

I would rather have Thomas Robinson and MWP on the roster and have Brown released.

Nance and Randle will be a terror for opposing teams all year long. I think we may see a lot of situations when Mosgov goes to the bench, where those two play together for large chunks of time.


I think it's too early to give up on Brown. A lot of his issues offensively stem from confidence, IMO. Only way he's going to get over that is through experience. His ability to play and defend the wing is currently a rarity on our roster. Plus he's dirt cheap.

How do you lack confidence in the summer league? If there was ever a time to put up irrelevamt big time #s and show you belong, its during that time. Dude was bricking WIDE open 3s. His D is not good enough to make up for his lack of shooting. This is just another Sasha Vujajic, i know we all like to think all our youth will turn into something but you cant hit on em all, i.e Kelly

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:32 am
by lake_show
cambomvmt wrote:
crazyeights wrote:I think it's too early to give up on Brown. A lot of his issues offensively stem from confidence, IMO. Only way he's going to get over that is through experience. His ability to play and defend the wing is currently a rarity on our roster. Plus he's dirt cheap.

How do you lack confidence in the summer league? If there was ever a time to put up irrelevamt big time #s and show you belong, its during that time. Dude was bricking WIDE open 3s. His D is not good enough to make up for his lack of shooting. This is just another Sasha Vujajic, i know we all like to think all our youth will turn into something but you cant hit on em all, i.e Kelly


That's the point tho... He doesn't have to shoot well to be effective. First off he's a better defender than sasha. Second off there's no one beating him out on the defensive side of the basketball. When we had Sasha we also had one of the best defenders in the league in Kobe Bryant, or we had guys like Trevor Ariza. WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW. We have NO ONE that will beat him out for that spot defensively. Third of all... Dont ever disrespect the machine again.

Some of you guys actually beleive that every player on the roster has to be an all-star Lol. That's just not how the NBA works. Lol

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:49 am
by cambomvmt
lake_show wrote:
cambomvmt wrote:
crazyeights wrote:I think it's too early to give up on Brown. A lot of his issues offensively stem from confidence, IMO. Only way he's going to get over that is through experience. His ability to play and defend the wing is currently a rarity on our roster. Plus he's dirt cheap.

How do you lack confidence in the summer league? If there was ever a time to put up irrelevamt big time #s and show you belong, its during that time. Dude was bricking WIDE open 3s. His D is not good enough to make up for his lack of shooting. This is just another Sasha Vujajic, i know we all like to think all our youth will turn into something but you cant hit on em all, i.e Kelly


That's the point tho... He doesn't have to shoot well to be effective. First off he's a better defender than sasha. Second off there's no one beating him out on the defensive side of the basketball. When we had Sasha we also had one of the best defenders in the league in Kobe Bryant, or we had guys like Trevor Ariza. WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW. We have NO ONE that will beat him out for that spot defensively. Third of all... Dont ever disrespect the machine again.

Some of you guys actually beleive that every player on the roster has to be an all-star Lol. That's just not how the NBA works. Lol

If he was tony allen like on D he can brick all the shots he wants

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:19 pm
by crazyeights
He was a rookie. The vast majority of players don't hit their career shooting averages for a couple years. It's pretty simple: it's too soon to give up on him.

He's going to be our 14th man essentially. I'd rather have him than end of bench guys from years past.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:20 am
by warrenpeace
Pablo Escobar wrote:Nance should start, Randle has tunnel vision so let him score with the bench unit. We can play the both of them together during stretches but I beleive Nance fits with Luke's style more, a hustle guy that doesn't need plays called for him. Super athletic as well, he said he can shoot the 3 now so I'm excited to see what he'll do this season.

Even if Nance should start, Luke will never start him over Randle. Notwithstanding the fact the Luke really loves Nance's game. What he would probably do is play Nance more minutes. In that case, it really doesn't matter who starts.

I also wouldn't be surprised, if Randle has a great year and end up being the best player on the team. I think him and Ingram complement each other well.

Re: Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:46 pm
by Pablo Escobar
warrenpeace wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:Nance should start, Randle has tunnel vision so let him score with the bench unit. We can play the both of them together during stretches but I beleive Nance fits with Luke's style more, a hustle guy that doesn't need plays called for him. Super athletic as well, he said he can shoot the 3 now so I'm excited to see what he'll do this season.

Even if Nance should start, Luke will never start him over Randle. Notwithstanding the fact the Luke really loves Nance's game. What he would probably do is play Nance more minutes. In that case, it really doesn't matter who starts.

I also wouldn't be surprised, if Randle has a great year and end up being the best player on the team. I think him and Ingram complement each other well.


Why not? Randle doesn't run the team. he's just another young player with good potential. But I'm sure Luke will have Randle and Nance at the 4n5 during stretches as well. Either way it's nice that we have some young talent to look forward to!