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Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:17 pm
by myersia
I am sure the rumors will start swirling soon. I figured this thread could clean up our board a litte.

How did the blazers get nurkic for plumlee and a 1st from denver?! We could have trumped that deal.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:29 pm
by Slava
The last time we traded away an active player on the roster was Steve Blake in 2014. I'd be surprised if Jimbo and Mitch don't extend that streak beyond the trade deadline because making trades requires a lot of leg work. You got to make calls, gauge value and understand the market. Jim ain't got no time for that.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:02 pm
by myersia
Slava wrote:The last time we traded away an active player on the roster was Steve Blake in 2014. I'd be surprised if Jimbo and Mitch don't extend that streak beyond the trade deadline because making trades requires a lot of leg work. You got to make calls, gauge value and understand the market. Jim ain't got no time for that.


I can't believe it's been that long. Well here's to hoping Nerlens or even Okafor (long shot) happens. One would think philly and us would be ideal trading partners.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:19 pm
by Vesper
I knew Plumlee wasnt going to get resign by Portland...

THey got a good midround pick for a guy they knew they werent going to resign. Dont know how well Plumlee + Jokic will work or why they even traded a first round pick for Plumlee, an expiring contract.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:33 pm
by myersia
Vesper wrote:I knew Plumlee wasnt going to get resign by Portland...

THey got a good midround pick for a guy they knew they werent going to resign. Dont know how well Plumlee + Jokic will work or why they even traded a first round pick for Plumlee, an expiring contract.


I have no idea. Portland gets a steal. They are taking that 8th seed.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:44 pm
by Vesper
myersia wrote:
Vesper wrote:I knew Plumlee wasnt going to get resign by Portland...

THey got a good midround pick for a guy they knew they werent going to resign. Dont know how well Plumlee + Jokic will work or why they even traded a first round pick for Plumlee, an expiring contract.


I have no idea. Portland gets a steal. They are taking that 8th seed.


Portland with Nurkic? I dont know.

I wouldnt bet on Portland to make the playoffs this season.

I have both the Kings, Nuggets and Mavs as better shots than Portland for the 8th seed

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:58 pm
by larry14r
Vesper wrote:
myersia wrote:
Vesper wrote:I knew Plumlee wasnt going to get resign by Portland...

THey got a good midround pick for a guy they knew they werent going to resign. Dont know how well Plumlee + Jokic will work or why they even traded a first round pick for Plumlee, an expiring contract.


I have no idea. Portland gets a steal. They are taking that 8th seed.


Portland with Nurkic? I dont know.

I wouldnt bet on Portland to make the playoffs this season.

I have both the Kings, Nuggets and Mavs as better shots than Portland for the 8th seed


And will lose to the Warriors as soon as whoever survives the race for the 8th seed.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:09 pm
by Landsberger
Why is everyone wanting Noel? We need wing who can score not another center who can't. We have Black, Randle and Mozgov who are all not consistent threats to score. Zubac is looking like he's got a shot at being a starter next year. Noel would play where if we can't get rid of Mozgov (which is going to be calculus hard to do).

With that said, Okafor is intriguing. He could be a PF. He lacks effort at times which I think is a very important (if not the most important) factor in a player but I'm trying to figure out if it's because of his crappy situation or the situation is because of crappy effort.

I hope to heavens we trade Young and not let him walk for zip. While Williams is under our control longer I think it's time to at least see if a playoff contender will overpay for a spark off the bench. Keeping them if there is a market for them seems silly.

Not sure how our front court fits right now. Ingram, Randle and Zubac don't really fit that well together. Neither Ingram nor Randle space the floor. If we could get a wing player who can score I'd toss Randle in a deal with Williams if there is a taker. Black and Nance can give us what he does on most nights.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:07 am
by TylersLakers
I want to keep Young. I think he fits better with this core group of players than Lou.

Bleacher Reports trade deadline predictions has us dishing Lou Williams and Luol Deng.

Washington Wizards Receive: Lou Williams, Marcelo Huertas

Los Angeles Lakers Receive: 2017 first-round pick, Trey Burke, Jason Smith

Wizards general manager Ernie Grunfeld is well aware how punchless his bench is—and that won't change despite Ian Mahinmi's return to the lineup Wednesday. Far more relevant here, Grunfeld knows what a step back it was for the Wizards not to make the playoffs last season when he expected they might be ready for a deep run.

So with Washington having found a rhythm under new head coach Scott Brooks, Grunfeld is looking for a guard just like Lou Williams, who can create his own shots and get to the foul line in slugfest playoff games—and has the nerve to want the ball in those moments. Williams (18.3 points per game) is also a good shooter who can spot up when defenders are smothering John Wall.

One of Los Angeles Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak's best qualities has been swinging slick trades, and his ability to nurture the Lakers' future is being questioned at the moment.

Getting a first-round pick either from the Wizards or via a three-way deal for Williams, who is more than a rental with another reasonable $7 million salary coming in 2017-18, would be Kupchak's goal rather than settling for any Wizards youngsters.


Would love this deal. Only thing I don't like about it is Jason Smith's contract. However, it's only around 5m for the next 3 seasons.

Los Angeles Lakers Receive: Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, two second-round picks

Sacramento Kings Receive: Luol Deng

Kings general manager Vlade Divac made it easy on us when he told ESPN's Marc Stein that DeMarcus Cousins wasn't going anywhere. At least for the time being, we can take a hiatus from the annual tradition of speculating on Cousins' future, as said future almost certainly features a contract from the Kings worth more than $200 million.

More broadly, though, Divac and the Kings' history of strange moves makes predictions difficult. A braintrust willing to surrender useful vets and draft assets in order to clear cash for Rajon Rondo (yes, this really happened) puts everything on the table. Remember, Divac is the guy who a league source described in Kevin Arnovitz's deep dive on the Kings for ESPN.com thusly: "Nobody in that position has ever been less qualified, less capable or a nicer person."

Perhaps Divac's amicable nature will lead to a swap for Lakers forward Luol Deng.

The Kings could certainly use a steadying, professional veteran presence on the roster, and Deng is most useful these days as an undersized power forward—an area of need Matt Barnes and Anthony Tolliver haven't consistently met.

So, the bold prediction: Sacramento sends Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore and two second-round picks to the Lakers for Deng, which allows L.A. to get out from under Deng's onerous four-year deal and clear nearly $18 million from next year's books...assuming Gay recovers well enough from his torn Achilles to opt out of the final season of his contract. McLemore is a pure flier. Maybe he shows the Lakers something, but more likely, he walks away and L.A. isn't upset about it.

Deng is already overpaid for his production, and the aging curve will only exacerbate that issue in the final three years of his current deal. But he's a name, and the Kings are devoted to winning in the short term. This is the kind of head-scratching move that fits their brand.

Stranger things have happened. Actually, with the Kings, stranger things always happen.


I have no idea why the Kings would do this deal, but I would be over the moon if we pulled it off. Neither McLemore or Gay has a guaranteed contract for next season and even if we did keep them another season, they could be valuable pieces to us.

So, if both deals went through, we'd be looking at a roster like:

PG: D'Angelo Russell/ Jordan Clarkson/ Jose Calderon
SG: Nick Young/ Ben McLemore/ Trey Burke
SF: Brandon Ingram/ Metta World Peace/ Rudy Gay (injured)
PF: Julius Randle/ Larry Nance/ Jason Smith
C: Tarik Black/ Ivica Zubac/ Timofey Mozgov

That would be a fun team to watch for 25 games or so. Add in an extra 1st rounder and 2 extra 2nd round picks, and we set ourselves up nicely for future deals.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691917-nba-trade-deadline-2017-br-staff-pre-all-star-trade-deadline-predictions

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:13 am
by danfantastk32
Landsberger wrote:With that said, Okafor is intriguing. He could be a PF. He lacks effort at times which I think is a very important (if not the most important) factor in a player but I'm trying to figure out if it's because of his crappy situation or the situation is because of crappy effort.


Didn't Coach K kinda dance around the "Effort" issue with Okafor. I can't always remember these things, but I seem to remember Mason and Ireland making a huge deal out of Coach-K's comments, back when we were in that draft year. K didn't call him lazy....but sorta did that "flowery language dance" that you do when you can't just say "this kid is a ball-buster".

It's like when a politician get's asked if he took bribes....and instead of a resounding NO.....goes into "you know, bribe is a strong word...." and you tune it out, cause now you know he took a bribe. It was sorta that deal.

I am typically skeptical of guys loaded with the "god-given gifts" aka...size. It must be nice to be 6'11" in high-school. Just kinda cruise. It's usually the guys a little underskilled that have to REALLY earn it. And they fight and claw from the beginning....at it shows. There are exceptions...Lebron was a beast....and never let up. But on the whole, when I hear about lazy Centers....I am not surprised.

I'm pretty happy with Zubac, myself. No need for Okafor.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:17 am
by Princeinrevolt
Landsberger wrote:Why is everyone wanting Noel? We need wing who can score not another center who can't. We have Black, Randle and Mozgov who are all not consistent threats to score. Zubac is looking like he's got a shot at being a starter next year. Noel would play where if we can't get rid of Mozgov (which is going to be calculus hard to do).

With that said, Okafor is intriguing. He could be a PF. He lacks effort at times which I think is a very important (if not the most important) factor in a player but I'm trying to figure out if it's because of his crappy situation or the situation is because of crappy effort.

I hope to heavens we trade Young and not let him walk for zip. While Williams is under our control longer I think it's time to at least see if a playoff contender will overpay for a spark off the bench. Keeping them if there is a market for them seems silly.

Not sure how our front court fits right now. Ingram, Randle and Zubac don't really fit that well together. Neither Ingram nor Randle space the floor. If we could get a wing player who can score I'd toss Randle in a deal with Williams if there is a taker. Black and Nance can give us what he does on most nights.

Okafor is not a pf, will never be a pf, both offensively and defensively... No wayy... why would we trade for a center, when we are already paying for three of them... nope not gonna happen


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Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:38 am
by indilakeshow
Princeinrevolt wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Why is everyone wanting Noel? We need wing who can score not another center who can't. We have Black, Randle and Mozgov who are all not consistent threats to score. Zubac is looking like he's got a shot at being a starter next year. Noel would play where if we can't get rid of Mozgov (which is going to be calculus hard to do).

With that said, Okafor is intriguing. He could be a PF. He lacks effort at times which I think is a very important (if not the most important) factor in a player but I'm trying to figure out if it's because of his crappy situation or the situation is because of crappy effort.

I hope to heavens we trade Young and not let him walk for zip. While Williams is under our control longer I think it's time to at least see if a playoff contender will overpay for a spark off the bench. Keeping them if there is a market for them seems silly.

Not sure how our front court fits right now. Ingram, Randle and Zubac don't really fit that well together. Neither Ingram nor Randle space the floor. If we could get a wing player who can score I'd toss Randle in a deal with Williams if there is a taker. Black and Nance can give us what he does on most nights.

Okafor is not a pf, will never be a pf, both offensively and defensively... No wayy... why would we trade for a center, when we are already paying for three of them... nope not gonna happen


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well... if they accepted Mozgov as part of the deal... :)

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:24 pm
by myersia
Cavs trade Chris Anderson to Hornets. Wonder if we will have any fireworks at the deadline next week?

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:54 pm
by Slava
I think Deng would be relatively easier to move if there's atleast one team that valued him compared to Mozgov. That's a contract we are unfortunately saddled with unless we can attach Clarkson to find a taker.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:27 pm
by moonpie
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Larry Sanders?

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:42 pm
by iamworthy
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Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:46 pm
by Kilroy
moonpie wrote:
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Must have something in the works for one of the other Cs...

Re: Larry Sanders?

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:46 pm
by Michael Lucky
We have a 31 year old Center getting paid 64 million. We have a young promising rookie in Zubac who looks like he could possibly become the best player in his draft class. What are we doing here?

Re: Larry Sanders?

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:46 pm
by iamworthy
I think he will end up on a contender.

Re: Annual NBA trade deadline rumors and deals thread

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:48 pm
by Michael Lucky
Lou and Young's value are at their highest. Probably higher than they've ever been throughout the career. It would be a travesty if we kept them on the roster past the deadline, instead of cashing in and get something in return for a draft we may not even get a pick in.