Update: Magic said there's nobody on the team worth building around (Pg. 4)

[Kilroy]

Lakers Trade Rumors: According to report, everyone is on the table this summer

Mark Medina of the L.A. Daily News joined Fred Roggin and Rodney Peete on AM570 recently and put it pretty bluntly.

"On one hand, [Pelinka] is going to be aggressive in trying to come up with deals to upgrade this team," Medina said. "But he is very mindful that you aren't going to make a trade just for the sake of making a splash. It has the be a good deal. He likes this young core as far as their potential, but they're giving these guys a laundry list of things to work on to improve their game.

"If I had to guess, there are definitely going to be changes made. But as far as who stays and who leaves, it's obviously hard to tell at this point.

"No one is safe. They don't have a Kobe Bryant on the team anymore, so everyone is on the table right now."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/lakers-trade-rumors-according-to-report-everyone-is-on-the-table-this-summer/ar-BBzWTay

In a lot of ways this is non-news... But at the same time, it sort of confirms what we've been assuming.

While I would prefer it to happen, I haven't heard anything so far that says the FO is planning on trying to keep this core together. No conflicting messages at all really...
That alone is pretty telling.

[The_Watcher]

Just not Ingram, and not Zubac, and Rob and I are on the same page. Everyone else for the right price should be able to be had.

[ALL HAIL]

Y'all should stop worrying that Magic is Isaiah Thomas. He isn't. He'll be patient, walk away from deals if he has to.

I truly believe that in listening to him, especially in the interviews immeadiately after initially taking the job.

Dude is not an idiot. He'll spend for a high priced role player (i.e. Hill, Holiday, or Collins), trade Randle and Clarkson, and weigh the scales on what, to him, is the MOST he'd give up for free agent to be George.

My guess is that the two pawns he must decide on are Zubac and Russell.

Would he throw one of those two guys in a Clarkson/Randle package? That's the real question.

But to intimate that Magic would trade a number one pick or Ingram is ridiculous.

[trevm37]

Im loving all the contradicting reports, the lakers and their media circus is so similar to the presidency now..... Complete non-story, obviously everyone is on the table, but there wont be a package strong enough to pry Ingram from the Lakers...

[cashflo]

Just not Ingram, and not Zubac, and Rob and I are on the same page. Everyone else for the right price should be able to be had.

Ingram and Zubac have skill sets that you just don't find everyday. Everyone else can be had..

[J_LA]

It takes two teams to complete a deal. I don't think Magic and Pelinka are going to deal one of our core players just for the sake of it.
It will have to be something that makes sense.

How many stars are possibly on the market this summer. I could only come up with 3.

Demarcus Cousins;
I think the Pelicans will be reluctant to trade him without giving it a full training camp to see if they can make it work. He's also a free agent the following summer so it doesn't make much sense for us to trade anything significant for him. Especially considering his negative history. I think if we make a push for him it will be more likely at the trade deadline, or free agency. I really don't see us trading for him this summer.

JImmy Butler;
I think he will cost us more than any other player on the trade market. They reportedly asked the Celtics for both Brooklyn picks. My guess is we would have to include our pick,(if we manage to keep it) and one of Russell or Ingram, to go along with another salary filler. I think its a good package. I also think if the Celtics want, they can beat it will all their draft picks and players on reasonable contracts. Would the Celtics let us snatch Butler from the Bulls? Not without overpaying. I'll be surprised if we trade for Butler this summer.

Paul George;
George is obviously the most realistic option for us this summer. With all the talk of him wanting to come to La, and not being happy in Indiana, at some point Bird is going to have to consider moving him. Especially if he does't make an All nba team. If we manage to keep our pick, I think we have the assets to make a trade work. If we don't, we would probably have to give up Russell, Ingram, and another piece of our young core to make it work. Considering the fact he will also be a free agent the following summer and all reports indicate he would want to play for us, I don't think it makes sense to trade for him if we don't keep the pick, unless we can somehow manage to do it without giving up Russell or Ingram, which I'm not sure is realistic. I think us trading for George is 50/50.

So unless we keep our pick and trade for George, or keep our pick and overpay for Jimmy Butler, I really don't expect us to make any significant moves at this point. Maybe a couple of small moves possibly involving some of our bench guys to balance out the roster. There just aren't that many "superstars" on the market to begin with.

[Pointgod]

It takes two teams to complete a deal. I don't think Magic and Pelinka are going to deal one of our core players just for the sake of it.
It will have to be something that makes sense.

How many stars are possibly on the market this summer. I could only come up with 3.

Demarcus Cousins;
I think the Pelicans will be reluctant to trade him without giving it a full training camp to see if they can make it work. He's also a free agent the following summer so it doesn't make much sense for us to trade anything significant for him. Especially considering his negative history. I think if we make a push for him it will be more likely at the trade deadline, or free agency. I really don't see us trading for him this summer.

JImmy Butler;
I think he will cost us more than any other player on the trade market. They reportedly asked the Celtics for both Brooklyn picks. My guess is we would have to include our pick,(if we manage to keep it) and one of Russell or Ingram, to go along with another salary filler. I think its a good package. I also think if the Celtics want, they can beat it will all their draft picks and players on reasonable contracts. Would the Celtics let us snatch Butler from the Bulls? Not without overpaying. I'll be surprised if we trade for Butler this summer.

Paul George;
George is obviously the most realistic option for us this summer. With all the talk of him wanting to come to La, and not being happy in Indiana, at some point Bird is going to have to consider moving him. Especially if he does't make an All nba team. If we manage to keep our pick, I think we have the assets to make a trade work. If we don't, we would probably have to give up Russell, Ingram, and another piece of our young core to make it work. Considering the fact he will also be a free agent the following summer and all reports indicate he would want to play for us, I don't think it makes sense to trade for him if we don't keep the pick, unless we can somehow manage to do it without giving up Russell or Ingram, which I'm not sure is realistic. I think us trading for George is 50/50.

So unless we keep our pick and trade for George, or keep our pick and overpay for Jimmy Butler, I really don't expect us to make any significant moves at this point. Maybe a couple of small moves possibly involving some of our bench guys to balance out the roster. There just aren't that many "superstars" on the market to begin with.

Butler is the right move here. Trade our #3 pick, Russell and Deng for Butler and their 2nd round pick. We actually shed salary with this move. Trade Clarkson to a team with cap space for a first round pick in 2018. We open up enough cap space to sign George and we have two wings that can score 20+, can create open shots and provide all NBA level defence. We also managed to keep some youth in Ingram, Randle, Zubac, Nance and our Houston pick.

[The Skyhook]

I want to see us win with our young core. Would be a shame to see them broken up.

[Landsberger]

Y'all should stop worrying that Magic is Isaiah Thomas. He isn't. He'll be patient, walk away from deals if he has to.

Is this based on his long history as a NBA Executive?

While I'm firmly in the "let's see what he will do" category I've also followed Magic from his days at Michigan State. I remember all the stuff that isn't on YouTube about him.

[Dr Aki]

Just not Ingram, and not Zubac, and Rob and I are on the same page. Everyone else for the right price should be able to be had.

i dunno man, i think if cleveland threw in an unprotected 1st with lebron, they could have zubac

[Landsberger]

I want to see us win with our young core. Would be a shame to see them broken up.

You think this group can "win"? I get wanting players we drafted to be "the guys" but the reality of the Lakers past success is just the opposite in a lot of cases. Kareem wasn't drafted, neither were Wilkes or Scott. Shaq, Kobe and Pau weren't either. Wilt wasn't a Laker for long either. Our "culture" as a team is going and getting the next era it seems.

I'm not seeing this group as a cohesive and complementary group. I'm not against going out and getting a star as long as it's not just for the sake of getting a star.

[ALL HAIL]

Y'all should stop worrying that Magic is Isaiah Thomas. He isn't. He'll be patient, walk away from deals if he has to.

Is this based on his long history as a NBA Executive?

While I'm firmly in the "let's see what he will do" category I've also followed Magic from his days at Michigan State. I remember all the stuff that isn't on YouTube about him.

I admit, it's all conjecture, based on gut feelings.

He's been waiting on this for a while, and he seems to go out of his way in every interview I've seen to mention patience and not being impetuous.

Please don't judge Magic the executive based on his comments as Magic the fan.

Has he put out any controversial tweets since taking the helm? No. All he's done is make good moves.

We'll see.

[Landsberger]

Y'all should stop worrying that Magic is Isaiah Thomas. He isn't. He'll be patient, walk away from deals if he has to.

Is this based on his long history as a NBA Executive?

While I'm firmly in the "let's see what he will do" category I've also followed Magic from his days at Michigan State. I remember all the stuff that isn't on YouTube about him.

I admit, it's all conjecture, based on gut feelings.

He's been waiting on this for a while, and he seems to go out of his way in every interview I've seen to mention patience and not being impetuous.

Please don't judge Magic the executive based on his comments as Magic the fan.

Has he put out any controversial tweets since taking the helm? No. All he's done is make good moves.

We'll see.

Magic has a teflon persona about him. He was not a good teammate at times and was very concerned about his standing on those teams in the 80's. He wanted Kareem traded, Worthy traded and got a coach fired. He's an all time Laker great between the lines but as someone who was there he also had a lot of massive ego issues to go along with it too. He wasn't a good influence at all in the 90's with a young team either. Thank god there wasn't Twitter back then.

He may have a good head for this or he may not.

[ISayshowmee]

One of the worst rumors !!!! Ya let the Lakers rebuild by starting from ground zero yet again. Everyone ? Hahaha....

[Dr Aki]

I want to see us win with our young core. Would be a shame to see them broken up.

You think this group can "win"? I get wanting players we drafted to be "the guys" but the reality of the Lakers past success is just the opposite in a lot of cases. Kareem wasn't drafted, neither were Wilkes or Scott. Shaq, Kobe and Pau weren't either. Wilt wasn't a Laker for long either. Our "culture" as a team is going and getting the next era it seems.

I'm not seeing this group as a cohesive and complementary group. I'm not against going out and getting a star as long as it's not just for the sake of getting a star.

you forget 5 time NBA champion Derek Fisher

[Spens1]

Honestly the only two who shouldn't be really is Ingram and Zubac (and Russell unless he gets us someone ridiculous like a straight KP for Russ swap). Everyone else should be on the table, especially if one of them were to land a Paul George.

[TylersLakers]

I would attach Zubac to a deal if it meant getting rid of Deng's salary.

How I prioritize the Lakers:

1) Ingram
2) Top 3 Pick
3) Russell
4) Randle
5) Zubac
6) Nance

I think Clarkson has to be traded, especially if we land the top 3 pick.

[mambo]

I would attach Zubac to a deal if it meant getting rid of Deng's salary.

How I prioritize the Lakers:

1) Ingram
2) Top 3 Pick
3) Russell
4) Randle
5) Zubac
6) Nance

I think Clarkson has to be traded, especially if we land the top 3 pick.

Noooo!
I keep Deng over Randle! ALL DAY!

[danfantastk32]

Magic has a teflon persona about him. He was not a good teammate at times and was very concerned about his standing on those teams in the 80's.

Not a NICE teammate at times, or not a good teammate at times?

I look at a team that won alot. I look at that crew of Showtime Lakers and it's like looking at some 115th battalion or something. Those guys are all brothers in arms. Worthy, Kareem, Magic, Thompson, Scott, Rambis, Cooper, Wilkes, Green. I don't see nothing but love from that group. And Magic was clearly the keystone of that team. You don't see that kinda camaraderie all that often in sports.

30-some years later, and its still nothing but a love-fest when they get together. If that's not a team, I don't know what is.

I agree with you about 95% of the time, but you clearly have an issue with Magic. I don't see it man. Is he the next Jerry-West? Who is? But A) let's give the guy a couple years to get things going, and B) I totally disagree about him not being a good teammate / leader.

[danfantastk32]

Im personally ok with "everyone on the table". First off....Magic and Rob are listening to every offer.

"We're here to deal" is not the same as "come bend us over". It's only when the later becomes the case, that I get upset.

If GS wants to trade Durant for Ingram.....I'm TOTALLY COOL WITH THAT. So he's on the table.
Anthony Davis for Zubac and Randle? DONE DEAL. They're on the table.

I think you get the point. Everyone has a price. Let's hear what the offers are.