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Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:35 pm
by tugs
Haven't seen any thread on this but it's interesting to discuss the dynamic of the possible starting lineup.

PG - Lonzo Ball

What else is there to say but we finally have a floor general whose game revolves around making others around him better. A pass first PG who can also make defenders pay if they don't play honest defense. Probably last time we had a floor general like this was with DFish who just comes in there to make the right plays and make outside shots (but Lonzo has obviously higher floor and ceiling than DFish).

SG - Jordan Clarkson

I hope Walton finally settles with a role for JC. Clarkson received a lot of backlash from fans because of his "inconsistent" game that can be attributed to adjusting his style of play based on what was asked of him, which I see as a very underrated aspect of his game. A legitimate scorer that could finally breakout once given a consistent role.

SF - Brandon Ingram

Our version of Andre Iguodala. Our Swiss Army Knife. Duke program's influence on his game benefits players around him since he'll try to make the right play everytime. Once he finds his stroke, he'll be lethal.

PF - Julius Randle

A legitimate triple-double threat with his high motor, unselfishness, and brawn. Needs to control himself at times, though, since he sometimes tends to go all out or just shuts down completely. Hopefully learns how to play off Lonzo, he'll definitely feast inside.

C - Brook Lopez

Can post up, face up, hit threes. This wide array of offense benefits his teammates as he can adjust accordingly based on what works for them. A solid veteran who the team can trust when everything goes helter skelter. Dump the ball inside and let him do his work. Last time we had this type of player was with Pau.

I am very much looking forward to this new look Lakers. 4 draft picks vying for a roster spot and young free agents who showed flashes of brilliance last season that would like to return and have another shot.

I believe we are on the right track. Finally.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:40 pm
by KidDynamit
I believe you haven't seen a discussion on this because the only discussion there has to be is about SG and there is already a thread about that.

I mean every other position is pretty set in stone.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:01 pm
by gts1
still have not hit the free agency period and a long summer to go before the roster is set

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:36 pm
by ROballer
Again with this nationality complex? C'mon tugsy, you're way better than this.

The word fit doesn't exist when trying to get things going between two players like Ball and Clarkson.

Jordan Clarkson is a goddamn selfish chucker who has no business of starting for any team in this league, let alone on a team that has Ball on it.

He's a chucker, and can chuck his way from the bench in those 15 mins Ball won't be in the starting lineup. We don't have any bench scoring as it is, if you put this guy in the starting lineup. You plan on playing 3-4 rookies off the bench? Good luck with that.

Clarkson doesn't need to sniff more than 20 mins REGARDLESS of any hypotheticals that might happen on a game night.


Josh Hart should start. And I'm betting my house he'll do a better job than Clarkson would ever do at starting, even as **** rookie.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:02 pm
by Lakernut4ever
ROballer wrote:Again with this nationality complex? C'mon tugsy, you're way better than this.

The word fit doesn't exist when trying to get things going between two players like Ball and Clarkson.

Jordan Clarkson is a goddamn selfish chucker who has no business of starting for any team in this league, let alone on a team that has Ball on it.

He's a chucker, and can chuck his way from the bench in those 15 mins Ball won't be in the starting lineup. We don't have any bench scoring as it is, if you put this guy in the starting lineup. You plan on playing 3-4 rookies off the bench? Good luck with that.

Clarkson doesn't need to sniff more than 20 mins REGARDLESS of any hypotheticals that might happen on a game night.


Josh Hart should start. And I'm betting my house he'll do a better job than Clarkson would ever do at starting, even as **** rookie.


With Russell and Swaggy gone...Clarkson is one of the few players who can create shots for himself if the team need buckets desperately...we still don't know if Ingram has fixed his shooting problems, We still don't know if Lonzo shooting (hopefully) will translate to NBA levels(Ingram had a hard time despite being a shooter in NCAA)....Clarkson doesn't deserve the hate in these boards...I bet Clarkson is still better than a rookie...

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:07 pm
by Kilroy
We need to count on Ingram's shot falling... On that lineup Ingram has to be our volume scorer.

Randle needs to hit his mid range shots this season and take a lot more of them, but some of those touches can go to Brook now too...

I actually think JC will be pretty good next to Ball... If we can get out and run, JC can be the finisher, Ingram and Randle can trail.

Defensively, that team just all needs to get way better, though.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:10 pm
by Kilroy
ROballer wrote:Again with this nationality complex? C'mon tugsy, you're way better than this.

The word fit doesn't exist when trying to get things going between two players like Ball and Clarkson.

Jordan Clarkson is a goddamn selfish chucker who has no business of starting for any team in this league, let alone on a team that has Ball on it.

He's a chucker, and can chuck his way from the bench in those 15 mins Ball won't be in the starting lineup. We don't have any bench scoring as it is, if you put this guy in the starting lineup. You plan on playing 3-4 rookies off the bench? Good luck with that.

Clarkson doesn't need to sniff more than 20 mins REGARDLESS of any hypotheticals that might happen on a game night.


Josh Hart should start. And I'm betting my house he'll do a better job than Clarkson would ever do at starting, even as **** rookie.


Clarkson won't have the ball near as much as he did last year... And anyone playing next to Ball is going to be kind of a black hole because their job is just going to be to catch and shoot... Not hold it and create.
I think JC will be fine.

People forget the player Clarkson was before having to step aside for Russell.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:15 pm
by Kilroy
I hate to get all nostalgic and **** but JC can be Scott or Nixon to Ball's Magic... He just needs to get some junkyard dog in him on D... Go watch Fisher tapes or something.

But Ball is going to have a tough time guarding the little athletic guards, and is going to need a guy that can take that load off of him like Nixon and Scott did for Magic. JC can be that.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:16 pm
by ROballer
Catch and shoot is not Clarkson's game, everyone knows this.

He is incompatible with Ball. He can carry the scoring load when Ball is not playing, that's it.
Every team needs a gunner off the bench, but playing BENCH MINUTES. That's Clarkson for us.


Everybody is keen to start our perceived best 5 guys, regardless of fit of their skills, yet no one bothers thinking how terrible our second unit might look like since there wouldn't be a single guy providing offense on it, if Clarkson is starting.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:19 pm
by Kilroy
ROballer wrote:Catch and shoot is not Clarkson's game, everyone knows this.

He is incompatible with Ball. He can carry the scoring load when Ball is not playing, that's it.
Every team needs a gunner off the bench, but playing BENCH MINUTES. That's Clarkson for us.


Everybody is keen to start our perceived best 5 guys, regardless of fit of their skills, yet no one bothers thinking how terrible our second unit might look like since there wouldn't be a single guy providing offense on it, if Clarkson is starting.


Nance will be on the second unit...

Clarkson was a pretty good jump shooter when he played next to Kobe... He can shoot, he just was asked to do more last season.

But that's what training camp is for... What we say now doesn't matter a whole lot...

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:24 pm
by WVlakerfan
ROballer wrote:Catch and shoot is not Clarkson's game, everyone knows this.

He is incompatible with Ball. He can carry the scoring load when Ball is not playing, that's it.
Every team needs a gunner off the bench, but playing BENCH MINUTES. That's Clarkson for us.


Everybody is keen to start our perceived best 5 guys, regardless of fit of their skills, yet no one bothers thinking how terrible our second unit might look like since there wouldn't be a single guy providing offense on it, if Clarkson is starting.


It just sounds like you hate JC honestly. Ball and Clarkson have yet to even practice a single minute together and you are already saying he cant fit. Also we had one of the best benches in the league last year and see how far that got us. I would much rather start JC and have him put up some stats so if we do have an opurtunity to sign 2 maxes next summer it is easier to move him and clear cap space.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:28 pm
by Michael Lucky
Ball
Unnamed player
Ingram
Randle (if he's still there)
Lopez

Bench
Clarkson, Nance, rookies

Yikes team looks brutal. 20-25 wins

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:53 pm
by Slava
Lopez - Zubac - Black
Randle - Deng - Nance - Kuzma
Ingram - FA
Brewer - Hart
Ball - Clarkson

Bryant to G-league.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:03 pm
by Michael Lucky
Slava wrote:Lopez - Zubac - Black
Randle - Deng - Nance - Kuzma
Ingram - FA
Brewer - Hart
Ball - Clarkson

Bryant to G-league.

Looks like Randle's time will be short lived.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:10 pm
by Slava
Michael Lucky wrote:
Slava wrote:Lopez - Zubac - Black
Randle - Deng - Nance - Kuzma
Ingram - FA
Brewer - Hart
Ball - Clarkson

Bryant to G-league.

Looks like Randle's time will be short lived.


I'd be surprised if anyone not on a rookie contract was left at the end of the season.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:05 pm
by PKABOOICU
I would bank on Julius Randle being moved before the season starts.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:19 pm
by kobe808lak
Michael Lucky wrote:Ball
Unnamed player
Ingram
Randle (if he's still there)
Lopez

Bench
Clarkson, Nance, rookies

Yikes team looks brutal. 20-25 wins


Yea we might have a worse record next year.. Unless Ingram drastically improves.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:22 pm
by Mirjalovic
Clarkson has roughly the same game with Aaron Holiday offensively. i think he will be fine playing alongside Lonzo ball.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:24 pm
by Crooked-I
Brook Lopez is going to be the 7 foot Lou Williams. He's in a contract year so I expect him to do the bulk of the scoring for us. Unfortunately, he's going to give up more than he gets. Don't think Ingram makes that leap for us this year, I think he'll still be a couple of years away. Hopefully JC can step it up, no excuses this year.

Re: Projected Starting Lineup: Analyzing the Fit

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:25 pm
by TKainZero
Ball
Hart
Ingram
Nance
Lopez

I like that 5 man group