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Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:24 pm
by -Spyda-
Lakers also weighing whether to sign a younger player like Tyler Ennis, Ian Clark or Isaiah Canaan in that backup PG guard role

-Ramona Shelburne

What do you think about Clark ?
I think he can be a great pick for the Lakers. But still not a real pg

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:20 pm
by Michael Lucky
I would love In Clark since we desperately need the shooting but I have no idea how we could afford him.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:57 pm
by iamworthy
Michael Lucky wrote:I would love In Clark since we desperately need the shooting but I have no idea how we could afford him.


I don't think we can. Also, I'm just throwing this out there, is he a product of the system and his hall of fame teammates?

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:01 pm
by Crooked-I
Move JC for capspace and give that money to Ian Clark on a one year deal. Doubt it happens, JC might be considered negative value at this point.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:01 pm
by Michael Lucky
iamworthy wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:I would love In Clark since we desperately need the shooting but I have no idea how we could afford him.


I don't think we can. Also, I'm just throwing this out there, is he a product of the system and his hall of fame teammates?

It is possible but at this point I just want someone out there that can hit an open three for Lonzo besides our center.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:10 pm
by MAMBAEMD
I think we can give him our MLE.
I don't know if any other teams can give him more.
I think he's good. He played with all-stars but when he was in there with their second unit, he played very well.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:36 pm
by Pythagoras
Michael Lucky wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:I would love In Clark since we desperately need the shooting but I have no idea how we could afford him.


I don't think we can. Also, I'm just throwing this out there, is he a product of the system and his hall of fame teammates?

It is possible but at this point I just want someone out there that can hit an open three for Lonzo besides our center.


This! Must. Get. More. 3-pt shooting. ASAP!

Do it Mi.. Er, Magic!

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:08 pm
by ISayshowmee
At this stage of FA, each passing day, Clark is becoming more and more affordable

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:20 pm
by danfantastk32
I'd take Ennis back, personally. I liked what he did with us, and when I look down the stats, it looks like your essentially getting the same player. I liked Ennis' effort, and feel like he could improve.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:34 pm
by Pythagoras
danfantastk32 wrote:I'd take Ennis back, personally. I liked what he did with us, and when I look the stats, it looks like your essentially getting the same player. I liked Ennis' effort, and feel like he could improve.


Huh? The same player as who? I'm all for bringing Ennis back as backup PG, but he's nowhere near a similar player to Clark. Personally I want both Clark and Ennis here, with JC being moved out.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:55 pm
by danfantastk32
Pythagoras wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:I'd take Ennis back, personally. I liked what he did with us, and when I look the stats, it looks like your essentially getting the same player. I liked Ennis' effort, and feel like he could improve.


Huh? The same player as who? I'm all for bringing Ennis back as backup PG, but he's nowhere near a similar player to Clark. Personally I want both Clark and Ennis here, with JC being moved out.


Career PPG APG RPG FG% 3P% Freethrows NBARating ScorEff Min
4.2 1.9 1.2 .419 .342 .773 7.99 1.030 12.5
4.5 0.9 1.1 .456 .364 .796 7.48 1.173 10.6


I dont know man.....looking the same to me. Nothing really jumps out as different. Player 2 has a tad better FG% Player 1 has twice the assists.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:56 pm
by danfantastk32
Nice.....comes out totally different than what it shows when you write it. That's nice. Anyhow..you can quickly figure it out

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:15 pm
by Pythagoras
danfantastk32 wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:I'd take Ennis back, personally. I liked what he did with us, and when I look the stats, it looks like your essentially getting the same player. I liked Ennis' effort, and feel like he could improve.


Huh? The same player as who? I'm all for bringing Ennis back as backup PG, but he's nowhere near a similar player to Clark. Personally I want both Clark and Ennis here, with JC being moved out.


Career PPG APG RPG FG% 3P% Freethrows NBARating ScorEff Min
4.2 1.9 1.2 .419 .342 .773 7.99 1.030 12.5
4.5 0.9 1.1 .456 .364 .796 7.48 1.173 10.6


I dont know man.....looking the same to me. Nothing really jumps out as different. Player 2 has a tad better FG% Player 1 has twice the assists.


Are you arguing which one is better? Those stats you provided could be used to argue that. Or are you arguing they're a similar style? Which is what I thought you where arguing. Those stats don't really tell you anything about that. Clark gives the Lakers a guy who can play off the ball and space the floor, something they desperately need. That's not Ennis's game. Either way, I've already said there's no reason both can't be here, as there's a role for each one.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:51 pm
by danfantastk32
Pythagoras wrote:Are you arguing which one is better? Those stats you provided could be used to argue that. Or are you arguing they're a similar style? Which is what I thought you where arguing. Those stats don't really tell you anything about that. Clark gives the Lakers a guy who can play off the ball and space the floor, something they desperately need. That's not Ennis's game. Either way, I've already said there's no reason both can't be here, as there's a role for each one.


No....I wasn't really arguing anything. My initial comment was that you look at the stats, and it appears like your getting more or less the same player.

I'd be the first to tell you that you can't read 5 or 6 stats and "Define" a player. I agree with you there. I don't watch a ton of Warriors, and when I do, I'm not watching Ian Clark.

But stats do paint a picture. One player is a career 1.2 3pattempts per game shooting .342 the other guys attemps 1.6 at .364

I don't know that "one spaces the floor" vs the other....you know? Your talking about 20-25 more attempts in an entire season, and making maybe 4 extra 3's in that entire year.

But anyhow...my point was I don't see one player really standing out as better. Both look like backup material so far. Ennis is a couple years younger.....he's been a Laker already (barely).....and so I'd take him. But neither player shows any reason to get excited or bummed about

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:22 pm
by ISayshowmee
Ian Clark's value is that he played on the Warriors' system. Yes the same system Luke is intalling with the Lakers.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:44 pm
by Fresh360Waves
Clark is a pretty meh player. He doesn't do anything great on the court that stands out. I'd rather just re-sign Ennis since we need another PG.

Re: Ian Clark (Lakers?)

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:14 am
by Frank Dux
I would love to see a scenario where we trade Clarkson for cap room and bring in Ian Clark as his replacement.