3-Point Shooting will be a recurring issue with this Team

Jack Bauer · Post #1 » by **Jack Bauer** » Tue Oct 3, 2017 4:27 pm

Lakers are just all a bunch of runners with no one to spread the floor, especially the starters, no one there are legit 3-point snipers.

Randle/Ingram aren't 3-point shooters no matter how many 3s they practice, they won't hit them at a high clip and instead will rely on going iso's to the paint.

KCP is a 33% career shooter only.

Ball's shot hasn't translated so far and is still unproven in the NBA level.

Only dude who can probably shoot over 40% and become a legit 3-point sniper who can spread the floor for the Lakers is Kuzma, but he comes off the bench.

Post #2 » by **Slava** » Tue Oct 3, 2017 4:58 pm

I'd start Deng and kuzma and put both Randle and Ingram on the bench. Helps play up Deng's trade value and suppress Randle's free agency market.

Bropez - Nance - Bogut/Zupac/Bryant
Kuzma - Randle
Deng - Ingram
Pope - Brewer - Hart
Ball - Clarkson - Ennis

Michael Lucky · Post #3 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Oct 3, 2017 7:59 pm

Even Kuzma was a bad three point shooter in College. The thing that gives hope with him, is that he only started to focus on hitting them a year ago.

But yeah the, only other player who can hit a 3 at an average clip is Lopez, and that spells trouble in an era where teams with great three point shooting are the ones to compete far into May and June. In less than a year we lost our three best three point shooters. Mind you Lou needed to be traded while his value was high.

Post #4 » by **dockingsched** » Tue Oct 3, 2017 8:28 pm

For the sake of Ball and Ingram’s development, a Kuzma-Lopez front court is going to be necessary to provide any semblance of spacing.

Edrees · Post #5 » by **Edrees** » Tue Oct 3, 2017 10:18 pm

Brook Lopez was a good point shooter last year, massive improvement from the rest of his career. He may have continued to improve it, so one can only hope he could come close to 40% this year

Dr Aki · Post #6 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed Oct 4, 2017 2:00 am

Recurring

Landsberger · Post #7 » by **Landsberger** » Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:47 am

It's up to Luke to coach his way around poor 3 point shooting isn't it. To just run the same offense that stresses 3 pointers when we don't have the crew for it seems silly. What we do have is a very skilled big man who is very good with his back to the basket. Parking him at the 3 point line for the sake of spacing would not be his best use.

Edrees · Post #8 » by **Edrees** » Thu Oct 5, 2017 8:30 pm

Too bad we unloaded one of our best 3 point shooters (DLO) in the off season. He would have been a great fit on this team with his average 3 point shooting which no doubt would have improved with passes from Lonzo.

Dr Aki · Post #9 » by **Dr Aki** » Thu Oct 5, 2017 11:54 pm

Edrees wrote:Too bad we unloaded one of our best 3 point shooters (DLO) in the off season. He would have been a great fit on this team with his average 3 point shooting which no doubt would have improved with passes from Lonzo.

defense would be a bigger issue though

dlo died on screens 95% of the time

danfantastk32 · Post #10 » by **danfantastk32** » Fri Oct 6, 2017 12:19 am

When you say "3-point shooting will be a recurring issue"....are you talking about ours, or our opponents?

Hint: the answer is yes

Lakernut4ever · Post #11 » by **Lakernut4ever** » Fri Oct 6, 2017 12:37 pm

Jack Bauer wrote:Lakers are just all a bunch of runners with no one to spread the floor, especially the starters, no one there are legit 3-point snipers.

Randle/Ingram aren't 3-point shooters no matter how many 3s they practice, they won't hit them at a high clip and instead will rely on going iso's to the paint.

KCP is a 33% career shooter only.

Ball's shot hasn't translated so far and is still unproven in the NBA level.

Only dude who can probably shoot over 40% and become a legit 3-point sniper who can spread the floor for the Lakers is Kuzma, but he comes off the bench.

Why are people forgetting Clarkson? He shoots the 3 at a decent clip when open or when given to the go signal to give it a go...So far in the the preseason games we lost, he was very tentative...when to pass or shoot. :nonono:

gamerpvp001 · Post #12 » by **gamerpvp001** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:29 pm

Lakers have no real shooters this year. It will be an ugly year like last year.

Landsberger · Post #13 » by **Landsberger** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:34 pm

I agree whole heartedly.

Will Luke see that and look at where this team does have advantages or just continue to run the GS offense and shoot 3's come hell or high water. Having Lopez shoot 3's is silly when he shoots 65% in the paint and has an advantage against 90% of the teams in the league. Zubac can also score in the paint at a fairly high rate. Right now our offense (in the preseason anyway) has been giving them touches facing the basket 20 feet away.

This will be a telling year for Luke IMHO. This team is not well built for the system we are running IMHO. This is a much more traditional roster of players with more traditional skill sets. Shooting 3's isn't one of them so we need to play to our strengths and not force the system.

That said, Kuzma, Clarkson and maybe Brewer are our best 3 point shooters at the moment. Ball may be decent but hasn't shown it yet (hasn't had a chance either) and KCP has shot decent albeit in limited attempts. My guess is that everyone of these guys hits in streaks and will miss in streaks. We don't appear to have a truly consistent threat from 3.

PKABOOICU · Post #14 » by **PKABOOICU** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:34 pm

The team is still a mess. There's really no identity. If the Lakers dont land a big time FA next offseason, they are gonna be in a hole for a very long time unless Ingram finds a way to add 30 lbs over the course of the season and next offseason.

TKainZero · Post #15 » by **TKainZero** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:46 pm

Kuzma will lead the lakers in 3 pointers made

MAMBAEMD · Post #16 » by **MAMBAEMD** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:24 am

3 point shooting looks to be a problem both on offense and defense.
I'm more worried about the defensive side though. And that's the side that can actually be worked on during camp and practices to get improved.
On offense, it will be Kuzma and Lopez taking a lot of 3s.
I hope that Randle and Clarkson improve on 3 point shooting but would rather see them play more of a mid-range game.

BEazy · Post #17 » by **BEazy** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:51 am

I still want to see how Lonzo plays with a front court of Lopez and Kuzma. I think Lonzo's 3 point shooting will be better as he has more games on his belt. I also think Josh Hart can develop into a good 3 and D player, he shot close to 40% in college as well.

Post #18 » by **milesfides** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:42 pm

Alex Caruso (40% in preseason), Kyle Kuzma, and Brook Lopez could make it less of an issue.

It's only a problem if KCP, Randle, Clarkson, and Ingram get a lot of minutes. Which they will. Which will make it an issue.

So you're right.

TylersLakers · Post #19 » by **TylersLakers** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:25 pm

milesfides wrote:Alex Caruso (40% in preseason), Kyle Kuzma, and Brook Lopez could make it less of an issue.

It's only a problem if KCP, Randle, Clarkson, and Ingram get a lot of minutes. Which they will. Which will make it an issue.

So you're right.

Yeah. Caruso needs to be in instead of Ennis. That's quite obvious & hopefully Luke gets there at some point.

Randle will/should get lots of minutes, however Nance should be given very limited minutes. Kuzma, Randle, Lopez, should be getting the majority of the front court minutes with Deng/Bogut (depending on matchups) playing as well.

I'm good with KCP getting lots of minutes. Clarkson and Ingram need to be surrounded by shooters if they're in the game.

XXBKXX · Post #20 » by **XXBKXX** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:50 pm

The sober realization that we don't have many shooters Is the sole reason why I want Kuzma starting. We don't have enough 3pt shooting in our starting lineup to really maximize Zo's potential. I don't care what system we are running, if your center is your best/only 3 pt shooter -- you are going to be in for a loooong season of hurt..

#StartKuzma