Paying for the sins of the father

[snaquille oatmeal]

I keep seeing NBA players tweeting about how Lonzo has a target on his back and that’s all fine and dandy because he is a rookie on the court, but come on man implying that the only reason is because of something his father said is childish and bullish.

If you got beef with Lavar take it up with Lavar. Beverly already got his butt handed to him because Lavar pointed out correctly that people would not know his name if he hadn’t attached his antics to Lonzo because honestly I didn’t know who he was.

Now Gortat is getting into it saying crap that Wall is gonna do to Lonzo because of what Lavar says. WTF just play the game. If you got beef with Lavar be a man and take it up with Lavar. These grown men sound like they wanna beat up a nineteen year old kid because his father talks ish.

What’s your take on this?

[Kilroy]

Well we kinda already talked about it in the Lonzo thread, but my take is that comments like that need to be addressed by his coach and his team... If Gortat and wall get froggy, Bogut and KCP need to address it on the court... Hard screens, hard fouls... Message sent.
To me it's less about Lonzo than it is about how much the Lakers are going to let opposing players get by with as a team...

The sooner this team draws a clear line between what is said off the court and what happens on the court, the better. Ball's been through this all before... It's not going to effect him a whole lot... But it could effect his team mates and to not address it, is a missed opportunity in our attempts to build a cohesive team psychology IMO.
It's just gamesmanship on their part... But we can and should turn it around on them, so that it's them with the nervous feelings entering games with the Lakers.

[TyCobb]

For entertainment purposes only.

[Sedale Threatt]

LaVar is gross and I wish he'd keep his mouth shut.

[dockingsched]

Haven’t seen any cheap shots or anyone insinuate that, so if it’s just that they’re going to try really hard against him and give full effort, don’t really see what there is to complain about.

[Kilroy]

Haven’t seen any cheap shots or anyone insinuate that, so if it’s just that they’re going to try really hard against him and give full effort, don’t really see what there is to complain about.

I don't expect anything cheap from those guys, but I think what Beverley was doing, at leas early in the game, was borderline... There were some elbows and hard bumps, etc... It was all basically weak sauce, so no big deal... But I still think it would do a lot for the team to use it as chalkboard material and as an excuse to come together as a team, especially on the Defensive side of the court.
I'd love to see Luke pull a page from Pops book and put some sort of statement out there about it...

[Edrees]

These nba players will get over it after one season, especially if zo starts dropping triple doubles on them. It is really childish to hold a son accountable for his fathers actions though, but honestly lonzo will grow stronger for it

[TyCobb]

These nba players will get over it after one season, especially if zo starts dropping triple doubles on them

Facts. They're gonna wish they came into the league with a production crew like Lonzo.

[Slava]

Lonzo stays quiet and does his job so the more people learn he is a different entity from Lavar, the sooner they'll drop their shtick. No one seems to be bothered by Embiid's loud mouth.

[BEazy]

People should really watch Ball in the Family. Lavar is a real good dude.

[Michael Lucky]

I don't know. The anonymous polls of NBA players conducted regarding Lavar seem to point to the fact that most of them think he's a genius for what he's doing.

[snaquille oatmeal]

Haven’t seen any cheap shots or anyone insinuate that, so if it’s just that they’re going to try really hard against him and give full effort, don’t really see what there is to complain about.

Like I said take it up in the court, but this bs of hating on Lonzo for what Lavar says is childish. Why beat up on the kid, take it up with Lavar

[BEazy]

It's because they're jealous that BBB is outshining some of the superstar shoes. I bet people did not know that John Wall has shoes out for Adidas. Just like I bet if you put two pictures of Lonzo and Beverley up in front of a casual fan 99% guarantee they'll know who Lonzo is and have no idea who Patrick Beverley is.

A lot of butthurt is going around the league because Lavar knows how to market his family and is probably 100 times better than some of these agents that the stars around the league have.

[KingRuss]

I mean it sucks for Lonzo but it is what it is. The NBA has probably been like this forever. I think people are exactly right to an extent- its not Lonzo's fault- all though every time asked Lonzo defends his dad. Not that he shouldnt defend his dad, but at some point LaVar has to realize he is not helping his kid. His ego is getting in the way of it. He needs to just be quiet because NBA players cant go after LAvar- hes a fat old man in the stands- but they can and will go after Lonzo.

Plus, I would imagine, if some opposing point guard gets torn up by Lonzo, do they really want to hear about it from Lavar yapping? I am sure they dont.

It sucks for Lonzo- but if he went to his dad and said "chill, you are effecting me one the court" instead of defending him at every opportunity, he would be a lot better off.

[KingRuss]

It's because they're jealous that BBB is outshining some of the superstar shoes. I bet people did not know that John Wall has shoes out for Adidas. Just like I bet if you put two pictures of Lonzo and Beverley up in front of a casual fan 99% guarantee they'll know who Lonzo is and have no idea who Patrick Beverley is.

A lot of butthurt is going around the league because Lavar knows how to market his family and is probably 100 times better than some of these agents that the stars around the league have.

I mean- Wall's deal is worth tens of millions more than anything Lavar is generating. He has sold like 3 dozen pairs of shoes. Someday maybe- but right now Wall could buy and sell BBB dozens of times over. I seriously doubt that is what "superstar shoes" are probably thinking

[Dr Aki]

the sins of the father basically fostered the beginning of a 3 billion dollar sports lifestyle empire, you don't think lonzo wouldn't trade getting a few nights of additional competitiveness for that much money?

hell, it even turned the lakers into must watch tv again, so the lakers aren't particularly unhappy about it either

the big payoff is when the lakers get so popular, the tv ratings spike and the cap increases allow more wriggle room in 2018

[Tee212]

i love the drama, players talking **** over social media trolling other players and fans makes me lol. just take it for what it is no big deal.

[TylersLakers]

I don't understand why anyone takes Lavar so seriously. Guy's nothing more than a good wrestling manager or hype man. Good marketing, good businessman. That's all it comes down to.

[stan francisco]

If Gortat and wall get froggy, Bogut and KCP need to address it on the court... Hard screens, hard fouls... Message sent.
To me it's less about Lonzo than it is about how much the Lakers are going to let opposing players get by with as a team...

The sooner this team draws a clear line between what is said off the court and what happens on the court, the better.

This.

[snaquille oatmeal]

i love the drama, players talking **** over social media trolling other players and fans makes me lol. just take it for what it is no big deal.

yeah I'm ok with that, what I'm not ok with is the cowardliness of not addressing the ish talker and taking it up his son. it's the principle i guess