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Eric Pincus: best way to two max slots is to extend Deng before using stretch provision

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Eric Pincus: best way to two max slots is to extend Deng before using stretch provision 

Post#1 » by Slava » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:19 pm

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Sounds too good to be true.
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Post#2 » by iQon » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:39 pm

They better not waive Bryant.

And if they didn't move off of their blocks for any alleged trade involving Ball/Ingram for PG13 this summer, they shouldn't gut the team based off pure optimism.

By all means, renounce Brook, KCP, and Julius. But you'd better have at least one of them as a plan B.
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Post#3 » by TylersLakers » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:39 pm

Wow, good work by Eric if this is possible. And Larry Coon has confirmed it's a definite possibility that could happen.

3.3M for 11 years. I'd do it. No question. I'd way rather to do that then trade away assets.

ALSO:

For the people who think the Lakers HAVE to trade away assets to get Deng off the roster, reasons like THIS are why you do NOT do that. In this scenario, the Lakers would have the ability to sign Randle, Cousins/PG and LeBron.
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Just got home and saw this ...

At least they named the correct 2 stars to go after :)

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DC Bro you are the first one we have called as we want you to be our next shaq and we'll sign u the max, you'll get bigger endorsements etc etc being in LA

DC: Yeh bro where do I sign that contract??

The call to PG - Yo bro we didn't want to wait for final second to sign Lerbon we just signed DC and we want you and him to be our Next Kobe/Shaq :) then we'll have Kuzma PF, Ingram SF, Ball PG- Kuz for the shooting, Ingram for the slashing, Ball will pass to you consistently as you'll be our main go to guy :)

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Post#5 » by Danny Darko » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:02 am

amazing plan... Do it Rob!
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Post#6 » by Dr Aki » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:38 am

Wowsers...

That sounds too good to be true.

Do it Mitch Rob
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Post#7 » by stan francisco » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:31 am

Do it, Pelagic!
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Post#8 » by eckoner » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:53 am

Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.
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Post#9 » by TKainZero » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:12 am

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Would be amazing

But kind sickening to see lousy deng in the lakers cap sheet until almost the year 2030...

I mean... there could be a human born on the moon or mars by the time deng stops getting checks
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Post#10 » by dockingsched » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:17 am

Giving a player a fake extension for the purpose of waiving him seems like a textbook example of circumventing the cap. Interesting to see league reaction.
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Post#11 » by TKainZero » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:20 am

dockingsched wrote:Giving a player a fake extension for the purpose of waiving him seems like a textbook example of circumventing the cap. Interesting to see league reaction.


I feel like David stern would pop up instantly and be like...

Basketball reasons


But league might actually want lakers to get a couple big names. Line up that Celtics/lakers finals
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Re: Eric Pincus: best way to two max slots is to extend Deng before using stretch provision 

Post#12 » by JohnVancouver » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:59 pm

No harm in trying, and as Pincus points out, guaranteeing a small amount of the salary makes it legit under the CBA

Bu sweet Geebus, 13 years in total. Nice work Mitch - it's like they took a crap on Jeannie's desk before they left
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Post#13 » by iamworthy » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:15 pm

Heard yesterday on the radio that if you renounce Randle, and trade deng using Ingram that the Lakers would have about 85 million in cap space. Enough for 3 max players if they all took a little hair cut. I didn't check the numbers.
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Post#14 » by Dr Aki » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:16 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:No harm in trying, and as Pincus points out, guaranteeing a small amount of the salary makes it legit under the CBA

Bu sweet Geebus, 13 years in total. Nice work Mitch - it's like they took a crap on Jeannie's desk before they left


It's 11 years.

This season's salary is already on the books 17.3 mil as we passed the stretch deadline back in September.

The final two seasons, plus a 3 year extension would make it 5 years (and whatever we'd be able to negotiate down in the buyout) to stretch over 11 years.

That's 2 full max slots (if one of them wasn't LeBron) and we'd be able to keep Clarkson (renounce Randle though). Though if either Randle or Lopez agrees, we can get them both back on the room MLE to retain their Bird rights.

So really, it's a fantastic thing to do.

AND there's already a precedent set by the Celtics http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0678725389249417253-4

Creative use of the stretch provision by the Celtics on the contract of Demetrius Jackson. Boston exercised the 2019-20 non-guaranteed team option on Jackson one day prior to waiving the former second round pick. Exercising the option allowed Boston to stretch the contract over seven years and not five. The cap hit per year is $92,857 instead of $130,000.
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Re: Eric Pincus: best way to two max slots is to extend Deng before using stretch provision 

Post#15 » by milesfides » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:04 pm

iamworthy wrote:Heard yesterday on the radio that if you renounce Randle, and trade deng using Ingram that the Lakers would have about 85 million in cap space. Enough for 3 max players if they all took a little hair cut. I didn't check the numbers.


Yes - this is the route I would go at this point. Nobody is going to beat the Warriors in the next 3-4 years unless you seriously stack a team. I don’t think two max players gets it done at all. You need 3 legit stars with quality role players and veterans.

I would try really hard to move Randle and Clarkson and all the other non-star quality players, rather than Ingram. But Ingram will take time, if he ever gets there.

There’s two ways to legitmately contend. Either make everybody available and create a superteam right now and enjoy contention for a few years. Or keep farming assets, trading up, and take over once the Warriors and LeBron are done.

But anything in between is almost certainly not enough to win.
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Post#16 » by snaquille oatmeal » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:09 pm

eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.

Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
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Post#17 » by stan francisco » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:00 am

snaquille oatmeal wrote:
eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.

Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
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But what about davidse's arguments claiming Boozer is better?
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Post#18 » by eckoner » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:06 am

snaquille oatmeal wrote:
eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.

Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
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I heard KG remodeled his home in Malibu.....He's walking thru that door any day now! But he's just coming to get Kuzma to sign a jersey! lol
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Post#19 » by eckoner » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:09 am

stan francisco wrote:
snaquille oatmeal wrote:
eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.

Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
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But what about davidse's arguments claiming Boozer is better?


Damn now thats classic. I remember those arguments very well. I actually met up with David once in westwood and played some ball back in the day if i recall correctly.
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Post#20 » by stan francisco » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:29 am

eckoner wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
snaquille oatmeal wrote:Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
Lol


But what about davidse's arguments claiming Boozer is better?


Damn now thats classic. I remember those arguments very well. I actually met up with David once in westwood and played some ball back in the day if i recall correctly.


Wow. What a trip. I so never agreed with any of his basketball thoughts or how he presented them, but hopefully, he was pleasant in person. Time flies.
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