Eric Pincus: best way to two max slots is to extend Deng before using stretch provision
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They better not waive Bryant.
And if they didn't move off of their blocks for any alleged trade involving Ball/Ingram for PG13 this summer, they shouldn't gut the team based off pure optimism.
By all means, renounce Brook, KCP, and Julius. But you'd better have at least one of them as a plan B.
And if they didn't move off of their blocks for any alleged trade involving Ball/Ingram for PG13 this summer, they shouldn't gut the team based off pure optimism.
By all means, renounce Brook, KCP, and Julius. But you'd better have at least one of them as a plan B.
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Wow, good work by Eric if this is possible. And Larry Coon has confirmed it's a definite possibility that could happen.
3.3M for 11 years. I'd do it. No question. I'd way rather to do that then trade away assets.
ALSO:
For the people who think the Lakers HAVE to trade away assets to get Deng off the roster, reasons like THIS are why you do NOT do that. In this scenario, the Lakers would have the ability to sign Randle, Cousins/PG and LeBron.
3.3M for 11 years. I'd do it. No question. I'd way rather to do that then trade away assets.
ALSO:
For the people who think the Lakers HAVE to trade away assets to get Deng off the roster, reasons like THIS are why you do NOT do that. In this scenario, the Lakers would have the ability to sign Randle, Cousins/PG and LeBron.

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Just got home and saw this ...
At least they named the correct 2 stars to go after
Call DC as soon as you can the second FA starts:
DC Bro you are the first one we have called as we want you to be our next shaq and we'll sign u the max, you'll get bigger endorsements etc etc being in LA
DC: Yeh bro where do I sign that contract??
The call to PG - Yo bro we didn't want to wait for final second to sign Lerbon we just signed DC and we want you and him to be our Next Kobe/Shaq
then we'll have Kuzma PF, Ingram SF, Ball PG- Kuz for the shooting, Ingram for the slashing, Ball will pass to you consistently as you'll be our main go to guy
PG: Yeh Magic/Rob no worries, where do I sign ? ???
Starters: Ball, George, Ingram, Kuzma, Cousins ... The dream line up for next year
Bench: Clarkson, Nance, Bogut and then fill in rest
At least they named the correct 2 stars to go after

Call DC as soon as you can the second FA starts:
DC Bro you are the first one we have called as we want you to be our next shaq and we'll sign u the max, you'll get bigger endorsements etc etc being in LA
DC: Yeh bro where do I sign that contract??
The call to PG - Yo bro we didn't want to wait for final second to sign Lerbon we just signed DC and we want you and him to be our Next Kobe/Shaq


PG: Yeh Magic/Rob no worries, where do I sign ? ???
Starters: Ball, George, Ingram, Kuzma, Cousins ... The dream line up for next year
Bench: Clarkson, Nance, Bogut and then fill in rest

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amazing plan... Do it Rob!

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Wowsers...
That sounds too good to be true.
Do it Mitch Rob
That sounds too good to be true.
Do it Mitch Rob

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Do it, Pelagic!
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Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.
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Would be amazing
But kind sickening to see lousy deng in the lakers cap sheet until almost the year 2030...
I mean... there could be a human born on the moon or mars by the time deng stops getting checks
USA Celtics in full effect. Amazing chemistry building experience right there for the main core of the team
Proceeds to finish 7th and shames the entire nation!
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Giving a player a fake extension for the purpose of waiving him seems like a textbook example of circumventing the cap. Interesting to see league reaction.
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dockingsched wrote:Giving a player a fake extension for the purpose of waiving him seems like a textbook example of circumventing the cap. Interesting to see league reaction.
I feel like David stern would pop up instantly and be like...
Basketball reasons
But league might actually want lakers to get a couple big names. Line up that Celtics/lakers finals
USA Celtics in full effect. Amazing chemistry building experience right there for the main core of the team
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No harm in trying, and as Pincus points out, guaranteeing a small amount of the salary makes it legit under the CBA
Bu sweet Geebus, 13 years in total. Nice work Mitch - it's like they took a crap on Jeannie's desk before they left
Bu sweet Geebus, 13 years in total. Nice work Mitch - it's like they took a crap on Jeannie's desk before they left
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Heard yesterday on the radio that if you renounce Randle, and trade deng using Ingram that the Lakers would have about 85 million in cap space. Enough for 3 max players if they all took a little hair cut. I didn't check the numbers.

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JohnVancouver wrote:No harm in trying, and as Pincus points out, guaranteeing a small amount of the salary makes it legit under the CBA
Bu sweet Geebus, 13 years in total. Nice work Mitch - it's like they took a crap on Jeannie's desk before they left
It's 11 years.
This season's salary is already on the books 17.3 mil as we passed the stretch deadline back in September.
The final two seasons, plus a 3 year extension would make it 5 years (and whatever we'd be able to negotiate down in the buyout) to stretch over 11 years.
That's 2 full max slots (if one of them wasn't LeBron) and we'd be able to keep Clarkson (renounce Randle though). Though if either Randle or Lopez agrees, we can get them both back on the room MLE to retain their Bird rights.
So really, it's a fantastic thing to do.
AND there's already a precedent set by the Celtics http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0678725389249417253-4
Creative use of the stretch provision by the Celtics on the contract of Demetrius Jackson. Boston exercised the 2019-20 non-guaranteed team option on Jackson one day prior to waiving the former second round pick. Exercising the option allowed Boston to stretch the contract over seven years and not five. The cap hit per year is $92,857 instead of $130,000.

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iamworthy wrote:Heard yesterday on the radio that if you renounce Randle, and trade deng using Ingram that the Lakers would have about 85 million in cap space. Enough for 3 max players if they all took a little hair cut. I didn't check the numbers.
Yes - this is the route I would go at this point. Nobody is going to beat the Warriors in the next 3-4 years unless you seriously stack a team. I don’t think two max players gets it done at all. You need 3 legit stars with quality role players and veterans.
I would try really hard to move Randle and Clarkson and all the other non-star quality players, rather than Ingram. But Ingram will take time, if he ever gets there.
There’s two ways to legitmately contend. Either make everybody available and create a superteam right now and enjoy contention for a few years. Or keep farming assets, trading up, and take over once the Warriors and LeBron are done.
But anything in between is almost certainly not enough to win.
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eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.
Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
Lol
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snaquille oatmeal wrote:eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.
Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
Lol
But what about davidse's arguments claiming Boozer is better?
Since the 1976 merger LAL 11, CHI 6, BOS 6, SAS 5, GSW 4
PG: Luka / Vincent / Bronny
SG: Smart / Reaves / Knecht / Mañon
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PF: Bron / Vando / Kleber
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snaquille oatmeal wrote:eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.
Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
Lol
I heard KG remodeled his home in Malibu.....He's walking thru that door any day now! But he's just coming to get Kuzma to sign a jersey! lol
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stan francisco wrote:snaquille oatmeal wrote:eckoner wrote:Thats some pipe you can actually smoke and get high from! Damn Eric i remember back in the day guys used to give you crap all the time on RGM! You get the last laugh if this comes to fruition.
Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
Lol
But what about davidse's arguments claiming Boozer is better?
Damn now thats classic. I remember those arguments very well. I actually met up with David once in westwood and played some ball back in the day if i recall correctly.
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eckoner wrote:stan francisco wrote:snaquille oatmeal wrote:Still waiting for KG to the Lakers any day now
Lol
But what about davidse's arguments claiming Boozer is better?
Damn now thats classic. I remember those arguments very well. I actually met up with David once in westwood and played some ball back in the day if i recall correctly.
Wow. What a trip. I so never agreed with any of his basketball thoughts or how he presented them, but hopefully, he was pleasant in person. Time flies.
Since the 1976 merger LAL 11, CHI 6, BOS 6, SAS 5, GSW 4
PG: Luka / Vincent / Bronny
SG: Smart / Reaves / Knecht / Mañon
SF: LaRavia / Rui / Thiero
PF: Bron / Vando / Kleber
C: Ayton / Hayes / Koloko
PG: Luka / Vincent / Bronny
SG: Smart / Reaves / Knecht / Mañon
SF: LaRavia / Rui / Thiero
PF: Bron / Vando / Kleber
C: Ayton / Hayes / Koloko