Say No Way to LBJ!

LALifer49 · Post #1 » by **LALifer49** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:01 am

Anyone else really NOT want LBJ on this team? Signing LBJ means we are trying to compete to win NOW, so here we have a team full of 20-22 year olds, and suddenly we're putting our window at the next 2 years?

But let's say we do that anyways, commit to 2 years of Lebron. Who are our most promising players that have shown the most so far? Kuzma and Ingram. So stick one of them on the bench for 2 years, stunt their development, give them ill will towards us.

What kind of system does LBJ play in, the kind we are trying to create with Walton? Nope, he plays LBJ ball, so we do that for 2 years, he retires, and now we have to create a new system from scratch? Speaking of Walton, how does LBJ fare with coaches?...well not the best track record there, pretty sure LBJ likes to be coddled by his organizations, but I'm sure he'll respect the authority of our inexperienced young HC. And if LBJ undermines Walton, that will lower his authority in the eyes of all the other players too.

Plus, we sign LBJ and try to compete right away, who are we competing against? Just one of the best teams ever, that fit together perfectly, with years of chemistry. A team that by the time LBJ comes to us at 34 or 35 years old could have 2 players better than him on it.

Additionally, what does LBJ have to achieve on the Lakers? He won his chips, won in Cleveland, which is his hometown team, if he were to come to LA it seems like a retirement move. His wife wants to be here, and he's getting involved with the entertainment industry, how motivated is he going to be at 35 years old having achieved all the things he set out to in his career? (Even if you disagree with this point I think the other points are valid).

We've spent years suffering to get the young talent we have. We should sign fa, they just shouldn't be a decade older than our young guys, or 5 years older than the dominant GS team for that matter. Selling out on our youth to throw together a bunch of max fa that don't even necessarily fit together and have no chemistry to try and beat pretty much a perfectly assembled team that was only able to be put together b.c. of Curry's miracle 2nd contract is really short sighted. Especially when every star in that team is in the middle of their prime, and our best guy would be a bunch of years out of his. Say no way to LBJ!

Tee212 · Post #2 » by **Tee212** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:06 am

already a thread about this. he should join 76ers, come off the bench and lead that unit. and no I wont want him here anyways.

SlimShady83 · Post #3 » by **SlimShady83** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:33 am

lol I couldn't resist

but I'm with you

A poll would have been nice Yes or No

johnx · Post #4 » by **johnx** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:54 am

he should go houston or philly

LakersSoul · Post #5 » by **LakersSoul** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:52 am

I think PG and Cousins fit better with the team.

That said, you dont say no to LeBron when we are a lottery team. Its not like LeBron is a ball hog or worthless player.

dAdo dA dEvil · Post #6 » by **dAdo dA dEvil** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:05 am

Pass!

BEazy · Post #7 » by **BEazy** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:14 am

LeBron is not coming here anyway. He's better off staying in the East. He'll probably join the Celtics.

SlimShady83 · Post #8 » by **SlimShady83** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:44 am

ScHoolBoy B wrote:LeBron is not coming here anyway. He's better off staying in the East. He'll probably join the Celtics.

LOL Irving would say F U too Celtics and leave that wouldn't happen

It will probably be west team who already has at least 2 other allstars, OKC, Hou, Spurs???

mcscotty · Post #9 » by **mcscotty** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:42 am

I would take LeBron in heartbeat. Especially if he signs his typical 1 or 2 year contract. How could you refuse?

LALifer49 · Post #10 » by **LALifer49** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:59 am

mcscotty wrote:I would take LeBron in heartbeat. Especially if he signs his typical 1 or 2 year contract. How could you refuse?

For the reasons I listed. What would you hope to accomplish with him?

mcscotty · Post #11 » by **mcscotty** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:04 am

LALifer49 wrote:
mcscotty wrote:I would take LeBron in heartbeat. Especially if he signs his typical 1 or 2 year contract. How could you refuse?

For the reasons I listed. What would you hope to accomplish with him?

Respectability. I'm tired of losing. It drains my psyche.

Spens1 · Post #12 » by **Spens1** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:15 am

look i'd still take him but he shouldn't get free reign.

He should be answerable to front office and Luke walton and the rest of the coaching staff and realise that, whilst being a leader, he is ultimately a player, not this quasi-gm/coach nonsense that is going on in cleveland right now (because if/when he leaves, that will blow up in their faces).

Also no resigning players and giving them hyper-inflated contracts because his agent said so.

In an ideal world, Westbrook wouldn't have signed the extension and we would have gotten both him and George in F.A.

Spanish_Laker · Post #13 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:12 pm

I'd take a GOAT-caliber player in a heartbeat. I'm done with 6 years of losing and embarrassment.

Landsberger · Post #14 » by **Landsberger** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:19 pm

This premise is based on the idea that this group of youngsters is a championship team and the only thing they need is time. I think that's way off base. Time and re-signing our own isn't getting this group to a championship.

Most franchises would love a one year shot much less a 3 year open window.

I'd take any top star (outside of Cousins or Westbrook) on this team in a heartbeat to help balance us out and provide us with a closer/leader.

As for what happens to Walton. So far I'd say he's an average coach at best. Nothing special at this point but not horrible either. A real test for a coach is how they prepare and get a team deep in the playoffs. Luke has none of that experience at all. I still think that if we do sign the 2 max guys we might look for a veteran coach as well. That window won't be open long.

XXBKXX · Post #15 » by **XXBKXX** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:07 pm

I've been beating the anti LBJ drum beat since these rumors started picking up steam. Only way I'd be down with LBJ coming here is if it's a discounted deal on a two year commit. I do NOT want to relive the Steve Nash fiasco all over again.

The home run for the Lakers is if both PG and Coussins signs.. Then LBJ comes on a discounted two-year deal.

Zo
BI
PG13
Bron
Coussins

Kuz (6th man)

larry14r · Post #16 » by **larry14r** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:41 pm

Landsberger wrote:This premise is based on the idea that this group of youngsters is a championship team and the only thing they need is time. I think that's way off base. Time and re-signing our own isn't getting this group to a championship.

Most franchises would love a one year shot much less a 3 year open window.

I'd take any top star (outside of Cousins or Westbrook) on this team in a heartbeat to help balance us out and provide us with a closer/leader.

As for what happens to Walton. So far I'd say he's an average coach at best. Nothing special at this point but not horrible either. A real test for a coach is how they prepare and get a team deep in the playoffs. Luke has none of that experience at all. I still think that if we do sign the 2 max guys we might look for a veteran coach as well. That window won't be open long.

The problem is that there is no veteran out there that can help.

Post #17 » by **milesfides** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:37 pm

If LeBron is in, then Paul George and your mom is in.

stan francisco · Post #18 » by **stan francisco** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:19 pm

XXBKXX wrote:I've been beating the anti LBJ drum beat since these rumors started picking up steam. Only way I'd be down with LBJ coming here is if it's a discounted deal on a two year commit. I do NOT want to relive the Steve Nash fiasco all over again.

The home run for the Lakers is if both PG and Coussins signs.. Then LBJ comes on a discounted two-year deal.

Zo
BI
PG13
Bron
Coussins

Kuz (6th man)

I've reluctantly accepted that it's going to be very difficult for Robearv Pelagic to explain to Jeannie why we don't go after LBJ. Me, a LeBron fan? Absolutely not. Never was, never will be. Can I deny how dominant he is? Can I imagine him deferring more as he gets older? Would he bring everyone else in along with him by his mere presence here, like Cousins?

Complaining about anything LBJ is like complaining about Cindy Crawford's mole. Same with PG13 in a way, but too a much lesser degree. His demeanor and Twitter commentary worries me a bit. Doesn't seem like a pleasant guy to me. That stuff matters.

So, I'd rather see, more so than what I have in my sig (which is what I think will be):

Lonzo
Thompson
Ingram
Kuzma
Cousins

6th man: who cares?

Landsberger · Post #19 » by **Landsberger** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:51 pm

larry14r wrote:
Landsberger wrote:This premise is based on the idea that this group of youngsters is a championship team and the only thing they need is time. I think that's way off base. Time and re-signing our own isn't getting this group to a championship.

Most franchises would love a one year shot much less a 3 year open window.

I'd take any top star (outside of Cousins or Westbrook) on this team in a heartbeat to help balance us out and provide us with a closer/leader.

As for what happens to Walton. So far I'd say he's an average coach at best. Nothing special at this point but not horrible either. A real test for a coach is how they prepare and get a team deep in the playoffs. Luke has none of that experience at all. I still think that if we do sign the 2 max guys we might look for a veteran coach as well. That window won't be open long.

The problem is that there is no veteran out there that can help.

Really? You think no one we can get will help us at all?

LeBron can help us. Does he come here? I don't have a clue about that. Only way to make it happen is having 2 open max slots.

larry14r · Post #20 » by **larry14r** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:21 pm

Landsberger wrote:
larry14r wrote:
Landsberger wrote:This premise is based on the idea that this group of youngsters is a championship team and the only thing they need is time. I think that's way off base. Time and re-signing our own isn't getting this group to a championship.

Most franchises would love a one year shot much less a 3 year open window.

I'd take any top star (outside of Cousins or Westbrook) on this team in a heartbeat to help balance us out and provide us with a closer/leader.

As for what happens to Walton. So far I'd say he's an average coach at best. Nothing special at this point but not horrible either. A real test for a coach is how they prepare and get a team deep in the playoffs. Luke has none of that experience at all. I still think that if we do sign the 2 max guys we might look for a veteran coach as well. That window won't be open long.

The problem is that there is no veteran out there that can help.

Really? You think no one we can get will help us at all?

LeBron can help us. Does he come here? I don't have a clue about that. Only way to make it happen is having 2 open max slots.

I'm talking about coaches. Also I think the Lakers are not going to spend too much time on LeBron especially if he takes long to make his mind up. I'm starting to like George, Cousins, and keeping one of our players or trading it for something better a lot better.