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I mean if you think about it, hindsight is an amazing thing, after all we could have:

1. Would do the same deal involving Mozgov for Lopez (so Mozgov + Russell for 28 + Lopez).
2. Do the deal that sends Bradley to Utah, take Hart 30, take Dillon Brooks 42 though.
3. Trade Jordan Clarkson to Minnesota for Ricky Rubio (I believe they would have done this, 15PPG last year and Thibs would do something like this as GM).
4. #2 + Luol Deng for #10 and select Donovan Mitchell. Kings have cap to spare and they would have loved Ball, means they get Markannen or Isaac at 5 instead. Lakers is one of the few situations i could see him working nicely though.

Rubio-Mitchell-Ingram-Randle/Kuzma-Lopez

And we're probably in the same position with regards to F.A's and probably would have been in with a shot of the playoffs (or at least, a 9th seed team instead).

Cool. If Lonzo has a better sophomore season you can get in your hindsight machine again and say we should have picked Lonzo anyways.

I've been on record and very clear I would not have done the Mozgov/Russell deal. I don't think you make moves like that until you have agreements from the major free agents you're going after.

And yes, we would still have Kuzma. Sean Marks has been on record stating that if they had kept their pick, Kuzma wasn't high on their board and they wouldn't have picked him. They wanted to keep one of the two picks they originally had to select Jarrett Allen.

So, we'd have Lonzo/Russell/Ingram/Kuz/Randle. No Hart, no Bryant. Now, with Russell's injuries and Hart's good play, it's limited the blow of the trade for sure, but I'd still take Russell over Hart & Bryant.

With that said, I'll wait to see what happens this off-season. If Earvin and Pelinka don't deliver at least one major player, whispers of them being gone should be started. Not saying they should be let go, but the early thoughts should begin.

That twolves trade would not make sense for minn. They traded rubio for the pick and cap space to sign Teague. Clarkson had the value of filler to a desperate team at the deadline and had Nance on the cheap attached as positive value

Best case realistic ideal 2017 draft/offseason

Draft Tatum #2 just to **** with BOS

Force BOS to freak the **** out and trade us whatever they got from the PHI/BOS trade to move up a spot or be left with Lonzo and his dad. If they dont budge, whatever, we got Tatum! Makes the DLo/Mozgov trade trickier though since we dont have an annointed PG to start.

Everything after that we do what we already did. Except in this scenario we come away with either our pick in 2018 or get the Sacto pick in 2019.

That's pretty much it. I'd be ecstatic with Tatum, but i'm ok with having Lonzo as it paved the way for the DLo/Mozgov deal and at least we're getting a major pick out of it.

Slava wrote:Cool. If Lonzo has a better sophomore season you can get in your hindsight machine again and say we should have picked Lonzo anyways.

to be fair, the only thing Lonzo needs to do is actually shoot, only way is up for him on offense (because surely it couldn't get worse shooting wise).

Yes to all ... Especially number 1 ... We get rid of that bad contract in MOzgov he was beyond useless he was worse then Sacre (p.s loved Sacre) ... Get rid of Dlo, just never really liked him especially that off-court drama stuff.

2. was great I mean Hart is a great player and lots of potential
3. I've always liked JC, but Rubio always burnt us, if we did have this option, I'd do it.
4. Not so sure about this

WHat is mind boggling though is the fact Magic kept insisting Ball was this alpha male leader, when in reality this dude is nothing like that.

IF anything, (young guns wise) it would be

Randle, Ingram, Kuzma all before Ball as a "leader."

TylersLakers wrote:.....but I'd still take Russell over Hart & Bryant.

....and we got rid of Mozgov's deal for a 1-year loan of Lopez. Huge part of the equation. It's why we can sign 2 max free-agents (may have to take a couple mil off....but it's close) and resign Randle.

#4 would have been an amazing turn around for us. Dumping Deng and landing the best player in the draft who happens to be a remixed version of DWade+Dame. Wow.

What if, would’ve should’ve could’ve...

3. No way Tibs would ever do that. Ever. He values defense.

4. Had anyone known pre-draft how Mitchell would pan out, he’d be a top 2 pick.