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Post#1 » by Pythagoras » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:49 am

ROballer wrote:Title says it all, what do you think the roster will look like after the latest chain of events?
I'd prefer some realistic scenarios, or sorta at least.(this is for Randle huggers mainly, who still think some major FA might take less to make room for his ass to get a contract, or we'll abandon the plan for 2 MAX FA, sign just one, to make room for the same sorry ass Randle, then sign another guy in 2019).

As far as common sense is concerned, that **** ain't happening.

As of today, 9th of February 2018, I'm 95% convinced we'll spend all the mula on George and Lebron and nothing will change my mind. There's no master plan to add somebody else, there's no squeaking and binding the cap rules to get another player, nothing else.

It's Lebron and George, straight up for the max.....and that's **** more than enough, so stop the conspiracy theories that we should and could get something more than that, and be happy with that possibility because it's a wonderful return no matter how you spin it.


So of course, first matter of business is getting rid of virtually everybody, stretch Deng, sign the two guys above, and draft Chimezie Metu with the draft pick from the Cavs.

Initially I wanted a PG, but I don't want to waste it on a 14-15 min role for the next 10 years, since Ball has the position on lockdown.
Hart's play made a believer out of me, that he can backup the point for a few mins every game.

Keep Caruso and Bryant as depth, so that would make our team count at 9 guys for now.

Next stop are the ring chasers. I actually think we can also add one or two younger guys and not just the dinosaurs. I reckon it's a watered down market for centers a little bit, so a guy like Lucas Nogueira who can protect the rim can be had for the minimum probably.


Joe Johnson/Omri Casspi/Brice Johnson can round up the roster.


Starting lineup:

Ball
George
Ingram
Lebron

32-36 mins each

Center spot split between Metu/Nogueira/Bryant, matchups, foul trouble, injuries, etc dictating the number of minutes each will get, probably not many though, 15-20 a game at most.

Hart and Kuzma are our two big guns off the bench, both can backup multiple positions and even though they will not start, they can still see 22-26 mins on a regular basis from the bench.

Caruso/J.Johnson/Casspi/B.Johnson/ 2 way guys are our insurance policy players. Lots of DNP's, but also can play a lot when somebody is injured/rested.


Lebron is not coming. This FO has been dropping clues to prepare people for this over the last couple of weeks. They've also been dropping clues that they're open to re-signing Randle to something reasonable. If not, he would have been moved before the deadline. With that said, if Lebron were coming, Lonzo would be the guy he would want the FO to move to clear space for he and PG to get their maxes, and to keep Randle.

With that said, I think we're still the front runners to land PG. I think the FO will try to lock Randle up with with a reasonable extension as well. Worst case scenario he ends up back on the QO.
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Post#2 » by dockingsched » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:02 pm

I don’t believe Lebron is going to leave cleveland, and I don’t think it’ll be to LA if he does. His timeline just doesn’t coincide with Ball and Ingram, and I don’t think you can reconcile that.

I can’t envision him leaving his hometown team, specially if they make the finals again, to come to a western conference team that is so young.

Having said that, I think Paul George is going to be the main target and there’s good odds he comes. Just gotta hope the Thunder don’t have unexpected success in the playoffs. Signing up to be RW’s sidekick in OKC for the rest of your prime doesn’t sound as appealing as being the man in LA if the Thunder aren’t even seriously contending.

Then attention will shift to resigning Randle in a way that ensures another shot at a max FA in 2019. I believe Randle being a RFA ensures the timing of it all works out. Randle won’t get huge offers out the gate.
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Post#3 » by snaquille oatmeal » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:53 pm

...about Lebron, not sure if I want him. he brings a lot of drama with him. sure the Cavs look good after the trade but they traded half the roster in one day. sure they weren't clicking but that's on Lebron too. some of those were his boys that got traded. just not sure.
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Post#4 » by Kilroy » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:33 pm

LeBron IMO is still the best player in the league... That said he's got a ton of miles on him...

My gut is his next stop is not just another stop on his tour of championship teams... I think he's looking for a place to finish his career and I think he wants to be in LA, and figures if he comes here and we win a championship or 2, he'll get his number retired like Kobe... I also think it's more about earning potential than BBall for him at this point and he sees Magic and figures maybe they can work together on a couple things...

That said, as a fan, I'm not that interested if he doesn't plan to sign more than an 1+1 contract, but I also don't want to tie up our cap space on another declining superstar, for a bunch of years...

So it's not exactly a slam-dunk but Paul George is also pretty old... So just getting him doesn't really move the needle too much, unless we got Davis next season... Which seems like the longest of long shots...
Kawhi's got a questionable injury history now... Cousins should be avoided at all costs until he proves he can still play... Brow seems to be wearing down a bit too... Pelvis injury, etc... Nobody's a slam dunk, and LeBron's still the best out of all of them.

Really, of all the superstar Max guys available over the next 2 years... No combination comes close to Shaq/Kobe, or Magic/Kareem/Worthy... But to me the best combos all include LeBron IMO.
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Post#5 » by Sushisensei26 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 7:13 pm

Windhorst who is as plugged in as anyone outside Lebron's circle had this written before game 4.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23303509/lebron-james-hit-free-agency-again-anything-possible-nba

If I can speculate and sort of read between the lines I would say he is hinting that Cleveland has no shot of keeping him.

But there remains little to no trust between James and owner Dan Gilbert, and a limited relationship with general manager Koby Altman, who is less than two years older than James.

If there was a foundation there, perhaps James and Gilbert could get together and forge a plan going forward, such as roster moves, what to do with the draft pick or maybe style of play. That has never been how James has operated, however, and that doesn't seem likely to change.
The Cavs can offer James more money and years than anyone else, up to a five-year deal for more than $200 million. But James has signed four contracts with Gilbert in his career and none has been longer than three years. Since coming back four years ago, he has never given more than two. Little trust there.
Last summer, Gilbert requested that James commit long term to the franchise. James did not. Gilbert made an incoming draft pick the centerpiece of the Irving trade, establishing the point that he'd plan for a time after James and not be caught flat-footed the way he was in 2010 when James left. Little trust there.


He also suggested that Lebron might want to do what his "close friend Chris Paul" did to get to Houston. Sign and Trade out of Cleveland. Interesting.

Says that he has no interest in taking less money but that stance could soften. He also said that the last 2 times he moved, he moved with a superstar joining a superstar (Him + Bosh to Wade and Him + Love to Kyrie).
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Post#6 » by myersia » Sat Jun 9, 2018 7:49 pm

I think we are getting Lebron. I personally don’t like Lebron. It will be hard to cheer him. But I respect him as a player. Would not be mad at all if he goes elsewhere.


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Post#7 » by Landsberger » Sat Jun 9, 2018 7:57 pm

I think Philly has a great shot at Bron. Close to CLE where his kids are settled and in the East where the path to the finals is easer. Philly is ahead of us in the development department as well by a couple of years or so.

Who knows? I'm sure he will play out all of the time in the hourglass before he makes his "decision" again.... I think he'd be a great addition here but not so sure we'd be in a position to truly challenge without a couple more large moves however.
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Post#8 » by Kilroy » Sat Jun 9, 2018 8:34 pm

It was reported earlier in the season that lebrons wife and fam wanted to settle in LA and he went school shopping then... So I don't think being close to Cleveland is really a concern at this point... Dude's already been gone from there.
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Post#9 » by MAMBAEMD » Sat Jun 9, 2018 8:41 pm

^exactly.
In fact when he said in his post game news conference that his number one priority is family, that made me think he’s hinting at LA because from everything that I’ve read, his wife and kids are looking to settle in LA schools and their home in Brentwood.
And for LBJ, basketball wise, LA’s young core makes a lot of sense, from a talent standpoint and athletically and b-ball IQ wise.
Add in PG, and it becomes as good a team for him to join as any.
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Post#10 » by wco81 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 9:01 pm

One of his kids is about to start high school and is suppose to be a stud in the making.
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Post#11 » by MAMBAEMD » Sat Jun 9, 2018 9:53 pm

Clearly LBJ is an incredible physical marvel having played at this high level for so many years, and having his best season in this late stage in his career.
And don’t get me wrong. I absolutely want him on the Lakers.
At the same time, he has played close to 3 regular seasons worth of playoff games. And has gone to 8 straight Finals.
That has got to take a toll on his body.
I think he still has at least 3 dominant years left in his tank. I just wonder how long more he can keep this up.
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Post#12 » by firefox14141 » Sat Jun 9, 2018 10:44 pm

i feel that people here think to "small". if Lebron and PG13 signing (which i think they will), their dream is not to play with raw players like lonzo/ingram/randle- is to go for the championship. you'll have a window of 3-4 years with the best player in the world- you need to use it well, and try to build a team that can compete with the warriors match-up wise.

like what happened in cleavland when bron came back when they traded wiggins for love , i think the lakers will trade one or maybe 2 of ingram/lonzo (kuzma is a good fit with lebron, really good outside shooting and solid defender so i will keep him) to get more proven players with more experience.

i used trade machine of ESPN to put some trades (which need to be approved so it means it's possible one) , with the scenario of lebron and george allready on team-

trade 1- the best of all, 3 team trade which benefit all of them and will make lakers the number one contender for the title next year:

wolves get- ingram, frye, ennis, hart, zubac (all 17.2 mill)
clippers get- lonzo, deng (23 mill)
lakers get- d.jordan and jimmy butler. (41 mill)

why for the wolves? butler finish his contract next year and they can lose him for nothing, ingram give them a good young player under cheap contract for 3 years who can develop next to towns and wiggs. the other are just to fill the salary diffrences.

why for the clippers? instead of losing deandre for nothing this free agency, they get lonzo who has a lot of potential. also the bad contract of deng, but they on rebuild anyway so it won't interupt them to much...it's simillar to the lopez-ruselll+mozgov trade.

why for the lakers? 4 the starting five will be- butler, pg13, kuzma, lebron and DJ. it's a scary team on defense and also on offense. you can also bring some cheap point guard so lebron won't have to much pressure (maybe pat beverly can be involve in the trade also...) and it's an amazing scanrio.

trade 2 - less stars but still contender:

hornets get- lonzo, deng
bucks get- ingram, frye
lakers get, walker, middelton, marvin williams, thon maker

why for the hornets? didn't got nothing with kemba, maybe lonzo will be their guy for the future.
why for the bucks? ingram has more potential than middelton, they need to build for future cuz with their roster now they don't have a chance.
why for lakers? walker is a poor man kyrie, middelton is a perfect fit near lebron and is great 3&D guy who had an amazing playoff. marvin is a solid bench player and thon maker can do some shot blocking on paint.

trade 3- the crazy one, kawhi decided to leave spurs

spurs get: lonzo, ingram, frye
lakers get: kawhi

personally i think kawhi is staying with spurs, but if not- him, pg13 and lebron is a lethal trio...

this are the 3 main scenarios i can see, have other ones like marc gasol or kevin love coming, but it's bad for mach-up with warriors (they both to old and slow).

think big my friends. if magic is a real magician he will find a way to make one of those :)
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Post#13 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:04 am

wco81 wrote:One of his kids is about to start high school and is suppose to be a stud in the making.


I have no idea how to assess junior high school talent, but I've seen a couple of highlight videos and he looks pretty f'ing good to me. He's got the same natural feel for the game as his dad.
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Post#14 » by wco81 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:16 am

I'm sure the top schools are recruiting him on the sly.

With Lebron's money, they could put him at some private academy anywhere in the country but they probably want him at home, so at a good school near wherever they plan to live.

Thing is, top talent is identified very young, like Chris Weber had scouts hovering around him since he was like 10, because he was already much taller and showed great coordination by then.
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Post#15 » by larry14r » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:18 am

firefox14141 wrote:i feel that people here think to "small". if Lebron and PG13 signing (which i think they will), their dream is not to play with raw players like lonzo/ingram/randle- is to go for the championship. you'll have a window of 3-4 years with the best player in the world- you need to use it well, and try to build a team that can compete with the warriors match-up wise.

like what happened in cleavland when bron came back when they traded wiggins for love , i think the lakers will trade one or maybe 2 of ingram/lonzo (kuzma is a good fit with lebron, really good outside shooting and solid defender so i will keep him) to get more proven players with more experience.

i used trade machine of ESPN to put some trades (which need to be approved so it means it's possible one) , with the scenario of lebron and george allready on team-

trade 1- the best of all, 3 team trade which benefit all of them and will make lakers the number one contender for the title next year:

wolves get- ingram, frye, ennis, hart, zubac (all 17.2 mill)
clippers get- lonzo, deng (23 mill)
lakers get- d.jordan and jimmy butler. (41 mill)

why for the wolves? butler finish his contract next year and they can lose him for nothing, ingram give them a good young player under cheap contract for 3 years who can develop next to towns and wiggs. the other are just to fill the salary diffrences.

why for the clippers? instead of losing deandre for nothing this free agency, they get lonzo who has a lot of potential. also the bad contract of deng, but they on rebuild anyway so it won't interupt them to much...it's simillar to the lopez-ruselll+mozgov trade.

why for the lakers? 4 the starting five will be- butler, pg13, kuzma, lebron and DJ. it's a scary team on defense and also on offense. you can also bring some cheap point guard so lebron won't have to much pressure (maybe pat beverly can be involve in the trade also...) and it's an amazing scanrio.

trade 2 - less stars but still contender:

hornets get- lonzo, deng
bucks get- ingram, frye
lakers get, walker, middelton, marvin williams, thon maker

why for the hornets? didn't got nothing with kemba, maybe lonzo will be their guy for the future.
why for the bucks? ingram has more potential than middelton, they need to build for future cuz with their roster now they don't have a chance.
why for lakers? walker is a poor man kyrie, middelton is a perfect fit near lebron and is great 3&D guy who had an amazing playoff. marvin is a solid bench player and thon maker can do some shot blocking on paint.

trade 3- the crazy one, kawhi decided to leave spurs

spurs get: lonzo, ingram, frye
lakers get: kawhi

personally i think kawhi is staying with spurs, but if not- him, pg13 and lebron is a lethal trio...

this are the 3 main scenarios i can see, have other ones like marc gasol or kevin love coming, but it's bad for mach-up with warriors (they both to old and slow).

think big my friends. if magic is a real magician he will find a way to make one of those :)


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Post#16 » by Kilroy » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:40 am

TheRealKaboom wrote:
Kilroy wrote:If we had not shot or interest in LeBron, I'd be for a PG/Love combo, if it meant we could keep Randle...

Ball/PG/Ingram/Randle/Love with Kuz and Hart off the bench wouldn't be a contender, but it'd probably be a 7-8th seed in the west, with a shot at getting deep in the playoffs if the stars aligned...
And if LeBron doesn't come here, there's a good chance he could end up in Houston or even San Antonio... Or Philly or even the Celtics I guess in a Sign and Trade...
But if he ends up in Houston, we probably want to chill and amass assets for a couple years while Houston and GSW fight it out anyway...

Houston is already $44 million dollars over the cap for next year. How are they adding LeBron to that team?


Rumor has it, LeBron's willing to facilitate a sign and trade to get where he wants to be...
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Post#17 » by Slink » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:50 am

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/6/9/17444336/la-lakers-kyle-kuzma-josh-hart-playoffs-tampering-twitter

The Los Angeles Lakers have the fourth-longest active playoff drought in the NBA and the longest one in their franchise history after not cracking the postseason since a 2013 first-round loss to the San Antonio Spurs, but Josh Hart and Kyle Kuzma are here to tell you that futility is at an end.

After the Golden State Warriors swept the Cleveland Cavaliers in the NBA Finals and kicked off what is almost sure to be a full month of rumors about LeBron James’ free agency intentions, Kuzma took to Twitter with a warning for fans not to believe everything they hear:


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Post#18 » by Kilroy » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:42 pm

The LeBron James Rumor Mill is up and running, now that the 2017-18 NBA season has come to a close, and the Los Angeles Lakers may have a geographic leg-up on the competition for the Cleveland Cavaliers All-Star's services. There has been chatter on Reddit that James has already enrolled his two sons, Bryce and LeBron Jr., in the Brentwood school district in L.A for next year.

"Note this is a complete rumor that is going around, but apparently there have been whispers that Bryce and LeBron Jr have been enrolled in an LA school for next year," Redditor PZinger6 wrote. "This also may be why the oddsmakers have LeBron going to LA as most likely."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/lebrons-sons-rumored-to-be-enroll-in-la-schools-next-year/ar-AAyrRcl?li=BBnb7Kz
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Post#19 » by ak7 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:45 pm

LeBron on the Lakers is a dream come true, but mostly I want it to happen so that the vast amount of 20 year old couch potato armchair hoopers that roam RealGM lose their minds.
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Post#20 » by Laker_Kid » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:33 pm

if we are able to sign LBJ and PG13 this offseason, plus keeping this core with Randle. would the pain and suffering from the past 5 years be worth it?

personally, i may finally be able to bury “basketball reasons” if it does happen.

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