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How many big time names will the lakers get?

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How many stars come?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:27 pm

0 (lakers strike out)
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18%
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13
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17
33%
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5 (cp3/George/Leonard/lebron/cousins)
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#41 » by tviper » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:20 pm

ak7 wrote:I've changed my mind. I see Lillard, LBJ, and PG.


If Lebron comes, it will be 3 big names, and the winds seem to be blowing that way.

Curious what you think would be enough for POR to pull the trigger on a Lillard trade. At least $22.382M has to come from LAL to match salaries, and POR isn't taking Deng, so must be Randall on a sign and trade along with Ball? Looks like POR needs to shed salary to get under the tax line, and after getting swept in the first round maybe they are thinking about retooling with some younger guys. I could see this if we also were able to eat salary by timing the trade just right, and adding a FRP. What were you thinking?

Edit: S&T won't work so it would have to be Deng, which means it would have to be after LAL signed PG and LBJ and renounced Randall. That makes a trade even more difficult. Would have to be Ball+Ingram?
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#42 » by LakersDynasty14 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:00 am

Lavar Ball was on Colin Cowherd’s show and he confirmed LeBron would be coming to the Lakers, and also confirmed that Paul George would not be.

It also sounds like Lakers will be looking for a way to add Liangelo Ball to the mix as well.


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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#43 » by Dr Aki » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:23 pm

playing around with some numbers... this summer, it's hard to get a third guy THIS SUMMER

if you waive the NGs and renounce everyone (inc. randle), lakers have $60,616,736 in space.

you would then need to package deng + lonzo (minimum salary) to the spurs for kawhi (20.1), get kawhi to waive his 15% trade kicker, to gain enough cap space to sign both lebron and george. if the spurs want ingram and kuzma instead, it introduces more cap holds into the equation, and we'd no longer be able to max out george and lebron (though they wouldn't miss that small amount of salary).

now, this is going to much harder for other stars earning more than 20.1 million like kawhi:
- lillard - 28 million
- cousins - est. 30.3 mil

basically, if we want to grab a third guy, it won't be this summer, i think will have to be a mid-season trade at the earliest.

if the lakers dump deng in his entirety, we gain the ability to retain randle (plus a little 2.18 mil extra, if we want to use that space to sign someone like jeff green), randle would then need to kept until Dec 15 when he's available to be traded, and wouldn't have any funny base year compensation shenanigans attached to his contract.

the lakers would then be able to trade for kawhi (or whoever else), with enough salary ballast. then this becomes an issue of who to give the spurs for kawhi, which is dependent on how much leverage kawhi has on the spurs:
- if he agrees to the super max extension, he can't actually sign it until he opts out in 2019, which means he wouldn't get it if we trade for kawhi
- if he doesn't agree, then he's a pending free agent, and he can dictate who the spurs can get value for him from, i.e. demand a trade to the lakers, heck he even gets a nice 3 million dollar trade kicker to whet his appetite for a max extension from the lakers
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#44 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:22 pm

So now the strategic leaking to major media players that Leonard wants out of San Antonio.

Let the rumor-mongering begin...
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Post#45 » by jay51024 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:22 pm

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Post#46 » by ak7 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:36 pm

larry14r wrote:
ak7 wrote:PG, LeBron, and Kawhi... Lonzo, Deng, and BI gone to SAS.


We're not giving them all that for a rental. Are you f'in nuts. Also who plays PG.


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Post#47 » by ROballer » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:36 pm

Called it more than a month ago. I'm **** taking dibs on everything that's about to happen.


Lakers trade Ingram/ S&T Randle/ Luol Deng's corpse for Leonard.

Paul George and Lebron will sign as FA for the max.

So the answer is THREE. 3 **** superstars in one summer, the biggest offseason spree in NBA history and the other fanbases can burn in hell and cry their asses off to no avail.
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Post#48 » by Ckay » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:37 pm

YEA!
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#49 » by TKainZero » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:11 pm

This off-season seems like a season in nba2k where you have to save and redo the offseason 5 times to get the right outcome.

Need to nail the draft
Get a couple big free agents
Then swing a trade for a 3rd star...
Then somehow keep Randle!

All without having to lose ball and Ingram

Someway, somehow

Ball
George
Leonard
Lebron
Randle

It’s gonna be a wild month
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Post#50 » by larry14r » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:25 pm

ak7 wrote:
larry14r wrote:
ak7 wrote:PG, LeBron, and Kawhi... Lonzo, Deng, and BI gone to SAS.


We're not giving them all that for a rental. Are you f'in nuts. Also who plays PG.


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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#51 » by Slink » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:55 pm

larry14r wrote:
ak7 wrote:
larry14r wrote:
We're not giving them all that for a rental. Are you f'in nuts. Also who plays PG.


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You were saying? Sit down, champ.


The Spurs will trade him somewhere else to spite us.


I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt KL sitting out another season either.
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Post#52 » by Optms » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:28 pm

This is nuts. Completely out of left field. No way in hell did I see Leonard demanding a trade, much less to us, 12 months ago. Its so opposite of his personality.

I'm actually starting to believe Lebron is a possibility.
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#53 » by RamonSessions7 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:38 pm

Slink wrote:
larry14r wrote:
ak7 wrote:


You were saying? Sit down, champ.


The Spurs will trade him somewhere else to spite us.


I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt KL sitting out another season either.

Then he wouldn't be a FA next year. Only reason SA let him get away with not playing so long despite being cleared was because they did not want to burn the bridge Kawhi just blowed up.
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#54 » by Slink » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:39 pm

I think KL had his sights on the Lakers when his contract ended. But all this talk of PG and James to L.A. would have mad him the odd man out. This might be him trying get in before PG. Either that or James had been talking to him already.
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Post#55 » by Landsberger » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:13 am

I'm still not sold on Leonard until we understand why he was out last season. Was he hurt? What he butt hurt?

Trading for him and he doesn't work out would be OK because he's a FA next year if we don't trade too much.
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Post#56 » by Dloading99 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:26 am

You gotta see him on the court.

would be good to see him play. You want to see him actually play in a game and see him play like Kawaii in the playoff against Memphis.
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#57 » by TKainZero » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:37 pm

Not that like the idea...
But Dwight Howard for the min?

Add to pg, lebron and Leonard...
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Re: How many big time names will the lakers get? 

Post#58 » by Penberthy » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:18 pm

If we theoretically strike out and just resign Randle, IT+Lopez (1 yr deals)

Ball IT Ennis
Hart IT Svi
Ingram Kuz Bonga
Randle Kuz Wagner
Lopez Wagner ZuBryant

How far does that team go?
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Post#59 » by TylersLakers » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:24 pm

2 or none. I voted 2, but I could absolutely see 0 playing out.
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Post#60 » by TylersLakers » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:24 pm

Penberthy wrote:If we theoretically strike out and just resign Randle, IT+Lopez (1 yr deals)

Ball IT Ennis
Hart IT Svi
Ingram Kuz Bonga
Randle Kuz Wagner
Lopez Wagner ZuBryant

How far does that team go?


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