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Lonzo Ball Thread II

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Re: Would you OR should we let Lonzo Ball run the offense - Vote 

Post#461 » by RamonSessions7 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:47 am

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milesfides wrote:Definitely Lonzo, because he pushes the pace to help us get transition points and open threes. High percentage shots. Lebron slows us down, we're not getting up the court, and instead we're stuck in the halfcourt too often which exposes our weaknesses - free throws and contested threes.

Again, Lonzo is most similar to Jason Kidd, in that he has a low footprint but large impact player. He changes the culture and unselfishness of a team. He gets the most of his teammates, he doesn't force them to sacrifice for his game, he elevates theirs. Lonzo's usage rate: 17. Kidd's career was 19, Lebron's is 32. Huge difference in how the ball sticks or moves.

And on this roster, we need that ball to move.


Listening to some of you speak, one would assume that the Lakers were killing it those 18 games LeBron missed.

With Lonzo supposedly running the offense “better”, it is interesting that they were a bottom 5 offense and went 6-12 without LeBron. With Lonzo supposedly making those around him better, it is interesting that Kuzma, McGee, Chandler and Hart all coincidentally went into the tank once LeBron went down.

Nothing you guys claim has a basis in reality. You guys are simply in auto pilot shoveling the same propaganda you spewed in the off season.

If the Lakers plan to sit LeBron (for “recovery” purposes) and tank then giving Lonzo the offense is an excellent idea.

If the Lakers are serious about making a playoff push then that is the most preposterous idea imaginable.


Lonzo and LBJ were both out at the same time, but I would’ve loved to see Lonzo run the team for that stretch, indeed. We would be in the playoffs.

Haha actually help proving the guys point that the fan base gets delusional. They weren’t hurt simultaneously and we weren’t on any kind of pace to get near the playoffs with zo and without bron.
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Re: Would you OR should we let Lonzo Ball run the offense - Vote 

Post#462 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:37 am

dockingsched wrote:Lonzo’s last 13 games before getting hurt were played without LeBron, they weren’t hurt at the same time. The team was 5-8 during that period.


Exactly ...

And people are thinking that Lebron was the only person hurt during the same stretch he was out :()()(
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Re: Would you OR should we let Lonzo Ball run the offense - Vote 

Post#463 » by kblo247 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:36 pm

milesfides wrote:Definitely Lonzo, because he pushes the pace to help us get transition points and open threes. High percentage shots. Lebron slows us down, we're not getting up the court, and instead we're stuck in the halfcourt too often which exposes our weaknesses - free throws and contested threes.

Again, Lonzo is most similar to Jason Kidd, in that he has a low footprint but large impact player. He changes the culture and unselfishness of a team. He gets the most of his teammates, he doesn't force them to sacrifice for his game, he elevates theirs. Lonzo's usage rate: 17. Kidd's career was 19, Lebron's is 32. Huge difference in how the ball sticks or moves.

And on this roster, we need that ball to move.

KIDD had the ability to play slow, change pace, and make half court reads as well in a methodical setting ... Ball is inefetior to Lance at dictating things on a half court basis let alone Rondo or Bron
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#464 » by Danny Darko » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:02 pm

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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#465 » by hazy_01 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:43 pm

Lol our health team is a joke
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#466 » by dockingsched » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:44 pm

Every single injury going back to summer league and then pre-season prior to his rookie year has shown us that he’s a very slow healer.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#467 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:24 pm

Seems a bit premature for LFR to criticize before hand. Going to look silly if Lonzo returns to practice next week.
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Post#468 » by milesfides » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:51 am

It’s not structural or chronic. But agreed, these celeb trainers need to go.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#469 » by Danny Darko » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:04 am

In Fairness Bron's injury and recovery would have basically zero to do with Lakers staff, as he has his own.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#470 » by dockingsched » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:12 am

milesfides wrote:It’s not structural or chronic. But agreed, these celeb trainers need to go.


Besides Gunnar Peterson who’s just the strength and endurance trainer, which other of these trainers are you referring to?

https://www.nba.com/lakers/training-staff
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#471 » by politm » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:18 am

The lack of official updates from the team regarding our players injury/recovery is quite annoying.
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Post#472 » by One Love » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:43 pm

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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#473 » by Kilroy » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:47 pm

politm wrote:The lack of official updates from the team regarding our players injury/recovery is quite annoying.


Doesn't Ball use his own medical team, too? I thought I read somewhere that his people don't always agree with the team docs and aren't necessarily that forthcoming on status.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#474 » by milesfides » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:18 pm

dockingsched wrote:
milesfides wrote:It’s not structural or chronic. But agreed, these celeb trainers need to go.


Besides Gunnar Peterson who’s just the strength and endurance trainer, which other of these trainers are you referring to?

https://www.nba.com/lakers/training-staff


All of them. And I wouldn't put the Lakers players' health in the hands of a Cal Poly Pomona grad with limited experience. No offense to him.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#475 » by politm » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:30 pm

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politm wrote:The lack of official updates from the team regarding our players injury/recovery is quite annoying.


Doesn't Ball use his own medical team, too? I thought I read somewhere that his people don't
always agree with the team docs and aren't necessarily that forthcoming on status.


I have no idea, but if that's the case i'd guess that they (Lonzo's team) would have to give the Lakers some updates on his recovery. Or at least in some aspects, work together.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a knock on Lonzo or LeBron (the same case with the updates when he was out), it's more on the Lakers. I mean, we're paying the player, we should be able to know how he's doing or how he's recovering. After all, every injury affects the team.

So far, how many official updates did we get from the Lakers regarding Lonzo's injury?
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#476 » by Landsberger » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:21 pm

When is Ball due back? Luke seems to not value Rondo after he had a fantastic game against the Celtics as he's basically benched him in favor of Ingram's initiation which is truly difficult to watch at times. Hopefully Lonzo will return and fix that.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#479 » by Landsberger » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:02 am

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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread II 

Post#480 » by bb22 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:37 am

Bringing him back with a few weeks left in a heated playoff race will be tough. He needs to toughen up both mentally and physically, and get back ASAP on a minute restriction.

I wonder if he saw that clip of Oladipo putting up shots from a hospital bed...

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