Woj: Suns trade Ariza to WAS after talks with LAL led nowhere.

Post #1 » by **dockingsched** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:39 am

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Need a third team to take KCP.

Michael Lucky · Post #2 » by **Michael Lucky** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:42 am

Dont see why we're all that interest. KCP and Ariza are pretty interchangeable honestly.

Post #3 » by **dockingsched** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:48 am

Michael Lucky wrote:Dont see why we're all that interest. KCP and Ariza are pretty interchangeable honestly.

Ariza’s length would be a big bonus on the defensive end, not to mention his experience in big moments.

RamonSessions7 · Post #4 » by **RamonSessions7** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:53 am

As long as it’s just a net of Kcp for ariza straight up, I’ll take it

iamworthy · Post #5 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 am

Just my opinion, but this seems like it has more to do with rich Paul getting KCP out of here so he can get paid than it does improving the Lakers

TylersLakers · Post #6 » by **TylersLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:14 am

You'd have to imagine Ariza will be bought out.. we could probably just wait.

KCP is so good defending smaller guards and we'll miss that ability big time. Also, Ariza's effort this year has been horrible at times. Is that just because he's playing for a team going nowhere? That was the case with Chandler. Hopefully it would be the same with Trev.

All in all, working with Rich Paul to get KCP to a place where he can make a big contract is obviously important with the Klutch connection, Anthony Davis, LeBron, etc.

Ariza does provide more stability and would be huge in the locker room.

Post #7 » by **Kilroy** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:18 am

I think Ariza is one of the more over-rated ex Lakers in my memory... Not sure why we'd be putting a bunch of thought/effort into trying to acquire him...

myersia · Post #8 » by **myersia** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:30 am

Yes please. Do you guys remember how good the rox were last year? Yes cp3 and Harden had a lot to do with it but Ariza and tucker were huge parts for the rox. Now look at the rox. Ariza will help a lot. He will do what we kind of hoped Ingram could adapt too.

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BEazy · Post #9 » by **BEazy** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:42 am

Wow Ariza is severely underrated. Get Ariza back here pronto!!

TylersLakers · Post #10 » by **TylersLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:44 am

myersia wrote:Yes please. Do you guys remember how good the rox were last year? Yes cp3 and Harden had a lot to do with it but Ariza and tucker were huge parts for the rox. Now look at the rox. Ariza will help a lot. He will do what we kind of hoped Ingram could adapt too.

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Having him certainly gives us more versatility defensively. KCP is just so small and struggles in switches, which is what will happen in the playoffs.

Also, if Ingram gets sent to the bench.. not a bad 9 man rotation.

PG: Lonzo/Rondo
SG: Ariza/ Hart
SF: LeBron/ Ingram
PF: Kuzma/
C: McGee/ Chandler/

Sedale Threatt · Post #11 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:06 am

Michael Lucky wrote:Dont see why we're all that interest. KCP and Ariza are pretty interchangeable honestly.

Was thinking the same thing.

Spens1 · Post #12 » by **Spens1** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:41 am

Bring him back. I have fond memories of Ariza from our title run so he's always welcome. Also he would do a great deal to help us defensively. Can't see why not for us if KCP is all we're paying.

mackmack456 · Post #13 » by **mackmack456** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:58 am

Kcp for Ariza awful trade

hazy_01 · Post #14 » by **hazy_01** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:04 am

I think KCP does a good job guarding quick guards tho. Any chance of trading Beas & Lance instead? I would probably include a couple of 2nd's.

Post #15 » by **TyCobb** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:08 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7141995

Dr Aki · Post #16 » by **Dr Aki** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:14 am

hazy_01 wrote:I think KCP does a good job guarding quick guards tho. Any chance of trading Beas & Lance instead? I would probably include a couple of 2nd's.

Need to pony up 9.9 million dollars in salaries to make our a legal trade

Lance 4.49 mil
Beasley 3.50 mil

Need to make up 1.91 mil in raw salary. Like sign Caruso or Wear or any of our leftover cap holds to the deal using their Bird rights and send them on their merry way

Sedale Threatt · Post #17 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:20 am

mackmack456 wrote:Kcp for Ariza awful trade

You guys wouldn't be getting Caldwell-Pope. The Suns apparently want a point guard and a draft pick, which is where the third team needs to come in.

Slink · Post #18 » by **Slink** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:51 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25495093/los-angeles-lakers-trying-add-suns-trevor-ariza-three-way-trade

Caldwell-Pope has veto power on a trade, but the Lakers have shown an ability to work with his agent, Rich Paul, if there's a deal that might increase his role and possibly get him signed to a deal this summer with a new team, league sources said. Caldwell-Pope is on a one-year, $12 million contract.

Didn't know this was in his was in his contract.

ISayshowmee · Post #19 » by **ISayshowmee** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:14 am

Michael Lucky wrote:Dont see why we're all that interest. KCP and Ariza are pretty interchangeable honestly.

Huh ? You really believe KCP has the length to defend the likes of KD ?

tviper · Post #20 » by **tviper** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:20 am

Slink wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25495093/los-angeles-lakers-trying-add-suns-trevor-ariza-three-way-trade

Caldwell-Pope has veto power on a trade, but the Lakers have shown an ability to work with his agent, Rich Paul, if there's a deal that might increase his role and possibly get him signed to a deal this summer with a new team, league sources said. Caldwell-Pope is on a one-year, $12 million contract.

Didn't know this was in his was in his contract.

He will have Early Bird rights at the end of the season as this is his second year of the contract (1+1). Since he is under a one year contract, and will lose the Early Bird rights after the trade, he has veto power.