Woj: Suns trade Ariza to WAS after talks with LAL led nowhere.

[dockingsched]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25495093/los-angeles-lakers-trying-add-suns-trevor-ariza-three-way-trade

Caldwell-Pope has veto power on a trade, but the Lakers have shown an ability to work with his agent, Rich Paul, if there's a deal that might increase his role and possibly get him signed to a deal this summer with a new team, league sources said. Caldwell-Pope is on a one-year, $12 million contract.

Didn't know this was in his was in his contract.

Anyone on a one year deal who will have early bird or bird rights gets the right to veto. If they’re traded, they automatically forfeit early bird/bird rights, so they get the right to decline to be traded. The idea behind that is to prevent teams from circumventing sign n trade rules.

Keep in mind though he has a trade bonus, so he’d get a nice 1mil+ bonus for allowing himself to be traded.

[timetoshinebaby]

I think KCP does a good job guarding quick guards tho. Any chance of trading Beas & Lance instead? I would probably include a couple of 2nd's.

Need to pony up 9.9 million dollars in salaries to make our a legal trade

Lance 4.49 mil
Beasley 3.50 mil

Need to make up 1.91 mil in raw salary. Like sign Caruso or Wear or any of our leftover cap holds to the deal using their Bird rights and send them on their merry way

Not sure it just isn't better to waive Ariza if that is the trade.

Suns aren't going to waive Ariza due to a few teams being interested. They can get some return.

Don't see the Suns/LA doing it straight up in any form.

[danfantastk32]

I think Ariza's best days are prob behind him. I always thought Ariza was a GREAT Laker......if you remember what we got him for (I forget the name of the player in that trade, but they called him "loose change". He was a decent bench guy from what I remember). Ariza had some great D. Scored 14-16 points in 3rd quarter of the Magic Finals game where Fish hit 2 buzzer beaters. His defense snatched that inbound pass in final moments of game-7 against the Nuggets. I think the guy was a great Laker considering what we got him for. Was always super bummed he left.

That said....the explosive days are gone. KCP and him are about equal, IMO. I'd love to have Ariza back...but I don't see this making us appreciably better. Possibly even a tad worse.

I'm fine either way. Would be super cool to have him back

[Danny Darko]

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[otbotb]

Hopefully this will be the trade...

LaL trade- KCP, lance, zu and or bonga

Phx trade- Ariza, Jamal and or Holmes

[mackmack456]

Brandon Ingram + moritz wagner + michael beasley for Nikola Vucevic

http://tradenba.com/trades/HJx7X_skE

[Dr Aki]

I think KCP does a good job guarding quick guards tho. Any chance of trading Beas & Lance instead? I would probably include a couple of 2nd's.

Need to pony up 9.9 million dollars in salaries to make our a legal trade

Lance 4.49 mil
Beasley 3.50 mil

Need to make up 1.91 mil in raw salary. Like sign Caruso or Wear or any of our leftover cap holds to the deal using their Bird rights and send them on their merry way

Not sure it just isn't better to waive Ariza if that is the trade.

Suns aren't going to waive Ariza due to a few teams being interested. They can get some return.

Don't see the Suns/LA doing it straight up in any form.

Well the Suns do save 5.1 million dollars

[timetoshinebaby]

Need to pony up 9.9 million dollars in salaries to make our a legal trade

Lance 4.49 mil
Beasley 3.50 mil

Need to make up 1.91 mil in raw salary. Like sign Caruso or Wear or any of our leftover cap holds to the deal using their Bird rights and send them on their merry way

Not sure it just isn't better to waive Ariza if that is the trade.

Suns aren't going to waive Ariza due to a few teams being interested. They can get some return.

Don't see the Suns/LA doing it straight up in any form.

Well the Suns do save 5.1 million dollars

I don't think that would be much of an issue as I have no doubt that Ariza would take a discount to get the hell out of Phoenix.

[Dr Aki]

Not sure it just isn't better to waive Ariza if that is the trade.

Suns aren't going to waive Ariza due to a few teams being interested. They can get some return.

Don't see the Suns/LA doing it straight up in any form.

Well the Suns do save 5.1 million dollars

I don't think that would be much of an issue as I have no doubt that Ariza would take a discount to get the hell out of Phoenix.

So...as opposed to my everyone wins trade, only LA wins?

[Slink]

Saw this posted on the GB:

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[TyCobb]

I must be missing something here but we better be getting picks back if we trade KCP and get Ariza back.

[Dr Aki]

Lol we're not giving up a pick, not even a SRP

[Showtime:Part2]

I must be missing something here but we better be getting picks back if we trade KCP and get Ariza back.

Thank you. Thought I was the only one bewildered by this.

[Jedi32]

I must be missing something here but we better be getting picks back if we trade KCP and get Ariza back.

My thoughts exactly

[Showtime:Part2]

This just wreaks of lakers fo bending over for klutch to get their client a good deal longer term. Kcp>ariza especially given positional depth on our roster. So Why do it? we have Lebron for 4 years, who cares about appeasing his guys

Also kcp started really slowly but just like last year has picked it up a lot recently. Ariza was complete trash against the warriors last year and is a shell of himself

[Slava]

If much rather have kcp but if he wants to play elsewhere for a bigger role and better payday in the summer, Philly, pelicans and Houston are natural partners.

[Showtime:Part2]

For anyone wondering, kcp 3pt % splits by month this yr. oct 22%, nov 35%, dec 41%. Same trend as last year

[mcscotty]

And suddenly everyone loves a little extra crispy KCP.

[kblo247]

KCP is better and has been and will be from December on out. No one chases smalls like him on this team including Zo. Beas,Lance, and Zu could work if they make the numbers work but that is it really. for me.