How can the Lakers utilize BI better ?

[sardines]

The guy has an explosive offensive game, but so inconsistent. You can not rely on him to carry the offensive load as he is so inconsistent. If he has a big offensive game....Lakers are in great shape....but does not happen often enough.

As a facilitator, Lonzo does a much better job on this....

How about a defensive oriented player comming off the bench ?

[myersia]

Idk about explosive offense. Ingram has an offensive game but I’m not sure he’s a scorer that we all thought he could be. Brandon is long which helps him both offensively and defensively. I think if anything Ingram needs to work on his off the ball movement offensively. He tends to stand around on offense and is an iso player. If he could work on playing more off the ball I think he could be more efficient.


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[nzahir]

By trading him

He is very good at driving the ball and making plays for others (but he sometimes gets tunnel vision)

He is 21 years old, very long, and still has all star potential. Can see him being a 20-24 ppg, 5 boards, 5-6 assists with good defense. Similar to a guy like Derozan, but a worse scorer, but better defender.

If we fail on AD, would look at guys like Beal, Jrue (if AD gets moved), Myles Turner (if even available)

[magicbesteva]

Ingram needs to let his shot fly. I think the coaches need to get on him more to take more threes and open shots. Ingram doesn’t fit offensively. He always catches and holds the ball or dribbles to the rim. I really hope he starts trusting his jump shot.

[SlimShady83]

6th man

[kobe808lak]

By trading him

He is very good at driving the ball and making plays for others (but he sometimes gets tunnel vision)

He is 21 years old, very long, and still has all star potential. Can see him being a 20-24 ppg, 5 boards, 5-6 assists with good defense. Similar to a guy like Derozan, but a worse scorer, but better defender.

If we fail on AD, would look at guys like Beal, Jrue (if AD gets moved), Myles Turner (if even available)

Agreed, by trading him. He's the odd man out.

[milesfides]

Reduce his on-ball role on offense, increase role on defense.

Limit minutes to curb fatigue, so when he's on the floor, he'll be active instead of invisible. KCP and Hart both deserve more playing time - especially KCP who needs to be showcased and traded.

Take away his on-ball playmaking. Ball needs to be in Ball's hands. Or Rondo and Lebron's when they come back. Not Ingram's.

Instead, work on catch-and-shoot three-pointers. That's going to be his best contribution to the team on offense.

Both will give him more energy to exert on defense and rebounding, two other areas where he needs to be way more active.

And of course, work on free throws. He's one of our best players at getting to the line, but he needs to help not hurt us there.

[nzahir]

Ingram needs to let his shot fly. I think the coaches need to get on him more to take more threes and open shots. Ingram doesn’t fit offensively. He always catches and holds the ball or dribbles to the rim. I really hope he starts trusting his jump shot.

What shot? He needs to learn to play off ball like Kuzma has

[hazy_01]

He's not a scorer, he's a utility player that does a bit of everything. He's a homeless man version of Giannis or someone mentioned it in another thread, Kirilenko. 6th man role would be perfect for him next year (I'm assuming we sign a 2nd star). I rather have him handling the rock then the likes of Lance, Beas, etc.

But if we are going to trade him, now would be at his lowest value. I don't see much return for him aside from a low FRP and maybe some OK prospect (Malik Monk, Justin Jackson, etc). Let him get his game back, then trade him imo.

[TJM217]

Shooting spot up 3’s was mentioned but I think he is extremely underutilized as an off ball cutter. I can’t find the stat but he is actually very efficient when he cuts but does it at a very low rate. Honestly if BI just cut more and increased his spot up 3 he would actually be a dangerous and respectable scorer.

[Dr Aki]

by giving him a big man that:
1. actually sets a screen
2. can shoot

[stan francisco]

Start Hart. I agree with you, kind of.

He’s best utilized when he passes the ball a couple of times to Lonzo before attacking.

[kblo247]

Giving him tapes of Tayshaun PRince

[Pythagoras]

He needs to start by laying off those inefficient midrange 2s. It’s alright to use that shot as a weapon to keep the defense honest, but you can’t consistently rely on that shot for your primary weapon on offense. Kobe did it, but he was the greatest difficult shot maker I’ve ever seen. He was a freak, and an exception to the rule.

20% of his shots come in the 10-16 ft area. That’s the most on the team by far. LeBron only takes about 8% of his shots there. Kuzma only takes 7%. Ingram has scored more points in the 3-10 ft area on fewer shots than the 10-16 ft area.

14% of his shots come into the 16ft to 3pt range. That’s second most on the team, behind Lance. LeBron only takes 11% of his shots there. Kuzma takes 3%. He’s scored more points on 3 pointers than the 16 ft to 3 pt range on fewer shots.

Additionally, his best weapon is his ability to draw free throws right now. He needs to use that weapon and attack the rim more frequently. Because he does such an excellent job at drawing free throws, he actually scores more points per shot than KCP and Hart, and almost as much as Kuzma. This despite having a much worse true shooting percentage than those guys.

[Spanish_Laker]

Stop playmaking duties, start playing off the ball and work recklessly on 3pt catch and shoot, FT and become a defensive ace.

[danfantastk32]

He needs to start by laying off those inefficient midrange 2s. It’s alright to use that shot as a weapon to keep the defense honest, but you can’t consistently rely on that shot for your primary weapon on offense. Kobe did it, but he was the greatest difficult shot maker I’ve ever seen. He was a freak, and an exception to the rule.

20% of his shots come in the 10-16 ft area. That’s the most on the team by far. LeBron only takes about 8% of his shots there. Kuzma only takes 7%. Ingram has scored more points in the 3-10 ft area on fewer shots than the 10-16 ft area.

14% of his shots come into the 16ft to 3pt range. That’s second most on the team, behind Lance. LeBron only takes 11% of his shots there. Kuzma takes 3%. He’s scored more points on 3 pointers than the 16 ft to 3 pt range on fewer shots.

Additionally, his best weapon is his ability to draw free throws right now. He needs to use that weapon and attack the rim more frequently. Because he does such an excellent job at drawing free throws, he actually scores more points per shot than KCP and Hart, and almost as much as Kuzma. This despite having a much worse true shooting percentage than those guys.

Excellent post IMO. I see alot of people wanting Ingram to completely change his game, and become someone else. That's just not gonna happen.

But more efficient shooting, and some tweaks are realistic.

[TylersLakers]

They have to utilize him on the move. Setting down screens, giving him the option to cut to the basket or pop out for a jumper. Using off ball screens, Iverson cuts, dribble handoff, etc.

No isolation and no pick and roll.

[AGAVE]

I thought that he played better last year; prior to LBJs arrival.
His minutes have reduced per game either but coaches decision or LBJ playing time.
Since his groin injury, Brandon has chance to use his time.
Gotta be a personal choice he must make to become better with the limited paying time he it's getting.
6'th man works for me; but that's an energy player off the bench I would expect.
I hate to say this but the direction our team is going, he fits better via trade now.
He gets more usage and playing time.
Same goes for the remaining players afterwards.
Tough decision to make

[Slink]

Luke should stop taking him out same time as Lebron. Leave BI in there a little longer.

[Landsberger]

He needs to start by laying off those inefficient midrange 2s. It’s alright to use that shot as a weapon to keep the defense honest, but you can’t consistently rely on that shot for your primary weapon on offense. Kobe did it, but he was the greatest difficult shot maker I’ve ever seen. He was a freak, and an exception to the rule.

20% of his shots come in the 10-16 ft area. That’s the most on the team by far. LeBron only takes about 8% of his shots there. Kuzma only takes 7%. Ingram has scored more points in the 3-10 ft area on fewer shots than the 10-16 ft area.

14% of his shots come into the 16ft to 3pt range. That’s second most on the team, behind Lance. LeBron only takes 11% of his shots there. Kuzma takes 3%. He’s scored more points on 3 pointers than the 16 ft to 3 pt range on fewer shots.

Additionally, his best weapon is his ability to draw free throws right now. He needs to use that weapon and attack the rim more frequently. Because he does such an excellent job at drawing free throws, he actually scores more points per shot than KCP and Hart, and almost as much as Kuzma. This despite having a much worse true shooting percentage than those guys.

Excellent post IMO. I see alot of people wanting Ingram to completely change his game, and become someone else. That's just not gonna happen.

But more efficient shooting, and some tweaks are realistic.

But that's completely changing his game. He doesn't take anything but open 3's because he can create a 3 off the dribble or with a step back etc. He shoots mid range because he can only create a shot after 3-4 dribbles. He shoots where he shoots from because of limitations elsewhere. I look at what he's doing this year compared to year one and see a guy who's learning where he's efficient and where he's not..... forcing him to shoot 3's isn't an answer for him. Neither is catch and shoot. His shot has a slow release.

His best role on a really good team is not being a scorer of over 15 points IMHO. For him to be a 20 point scorer he needs a significant amount of time with the ball. On a really good team he'd be the 3rd or 4th most efficient scorer. The answer for me is a slasher who occasionally gets isolations based on matchups rather than a primary ball handler or scoring option. Can he score? Yes. Could he score 20+? Yes. Can he do it for a top 5-8 team? No in my opinion. Can he do a lot of other things to cement together a really good team? Yes. Does he want to? Theres the question without an answer at this point.