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what would jack bauer do? wrote:Sedale Threatt wrote:And the cherry on top of this sh*t sundae: Mike Muscala -- 0 points, 0 minutes
Well he did sprain his ankle last game... He would've helped this game. Guys tend to play out of their mind against their former teams.
Kilroy wrote:I'm starting to think the most likely future for this team is losing all the young guys for chump change, firing Luke, hiring Scott again, assembling a rag-tag group of vets around LeBron that he likes and being a borderline playoff team in the West...
Kilroy wrote:Danny Darko wrote:Kilroy wrote:Phil isn't healthy, and supposedly he's been advising Luke anyway...
So a half dead and deranged Phil you say?
Rambis said he's having Cardio Vascular issues... He's not getting around very well, but Luke and Rambis have been consulting with him about on the court issues/challenges...
I didn't get a sense that he was super involved, but they'd talked to him a bit at least... He came out and visited Rambis, Jeannie and Luke consulted with him too..
dockingsched wrote:Not that I want it happen, but I wouldnt be surprised or upset if Luke was fired over all star weekend.
chrismikayla wrote:I was at the game last night and there was some curious body language. Either Lebron is hurting or he’s dogging it. It’s funny how he gives teammates the evil eye for missing assignments, etc. when he does the same thing. It seems KCP can’t be bothered with trying on defense at all. I think the Lakers young guys are really talented. At the risk of angering posters here, I believe it’s a coaching, front office, player development issue. Your young guys are devalued and not put into positions to maximize their talents. Sadly I believe Magic’s ego and old school mentality will allow change to adapt to the modern game.
Landsberger wrote:chrismikayla wrote:I was at the game last night and there was some curious body language. Either Lebron is hurting or he’s dogging it. It’s funny how he gives teammates the evil eye for missing assignments, etc. when he does the same thing. It seems KCP can’t be bothered with trying on defense at all. I think the Lakers young guys are really talented. At the risk of angering posters here, I believe it’s a coaching, front office, player development issue. Your young guys are devalued and not put into positions to maximize their talents. Sadly I believe Magic’s ego and old school mentality will allow change to adapt to the modern game.
I don't disagree until we get to the "modern game" comment. I hear that all the time but there is no definition of it. I've seen eras of fast paced games (much faster than today's game) and I've seen eras of hard nosed defense and scores driven down into the 80's on average. Eras of dominant alpha's and eras of Teams with less individual recognition. I've been watching for 45 years and I'm not seeing anything today that I haven't seen before.
There's an issue with Magic in how he interacts with players but I don't see it as "old school".... it was there when he was 22 years old and it's been on display off and on ever since.
Our young guys are talented. In looking at the last 20 years drafts I'd say we've done well. I don't see a guy who's a leader on a contender in the bunch but we have a good mix of talent for sure. Coaching is the question for me. The inconsistencies and lack of fire in the guys (especially Ingram and Ball) is concerning. I'd welcome a coaching change if/when we get another top star quite frankly.
This team will flame out or succeed in the next 18 months IMHO. I think we will see another "turned over" roster next year and if that one doesn't contend then we'll see some big changes again.... most likely starting at the top.
mcscotty wrote:Landsberger wrote:chrismikayla wrote:I was at the game last night and there was some curious body language. Either Lebron is hurting or he’s dogging it. It’s funny how he gives teammates the evil eye for missing assignments, etc. when he does the same thing. It seems KCP can’t be bothered with trying on defense at all. I think the Lakers young guys are really talented. At the risk of angering posters here, I believe it’s a coaching, front office, player development issue. Your young guys are devalued and not put into positions to maximize their talents. Sadly I believe Magic’s ego and old school mentality will allow change to adapt to the modern game.
I don't disagree until we get to the "modern game" comment. I hear that all the time but there is no definition of it. I've seen eras of fast paced games (much faster than today's game) and I've seen eras of hard nosed defense and scores driven down into the 80's on average. Eras of dominant alpha's and eras of Teams with less individual recognition. I've been watching for 45 years and I'm not seeing anything today that I haven't seen before.
There's an issue with Magic in how he interacts with players but I don't see it as "old school".... it was there when he was 22 years old and it's been on display off and on ever since.
Our young guys are talented. In looking at the last 20 years drafts I'd say we've done well. I don't see a guy who's a leader on a contender in the bunch but we have a good mix of talent for sure. Coaching is the question for me. The inconsistencies and lack of fire in the guys (especially Ingram and Ball) is concerning. I'd welcome a coaching change if/when we get another top star quite frankly.
This team will flame out or succeed in the next 18 months IMHO. I think we will see another "turned over" roster next year and if that one doesn't contend then we'll see some big changes again.... most likely starting at the top.
You've never seen the 3-ball era before. It's changed the game.
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:Lakers season going to come down to the health of Ball and Hart.
Landsberger wrote:mcscotty wrote:Landsberger wrote:
I don't disagree until we get to the "modern game" comment. I hear that all the time but there is no definition of it. I've seen eras of fast paced games (much faster than today's game) and I've seen eras of hard nosed defense and scores driven down into the 80's on average. Eras of dominant alpha's and eras of Teams with less individual recognition. I've been watching for 45 years and I'm not seeing anything today that I haven't seen before.
There's an issue with Magic in how he interacts with players but I don't see it as "old school".... it was there when he was 22 years old and it's been on display off and on ever since.
Our young guys are talented. In looking at the last 20 years drafts I'd say we've done well. I don't see a guy who's a leader on a contender in the bunch but we have a good mix of talent for sure. Coaching is the question for me. The inconsistencies and lack of fire in the guys (especially Ingram and Ball) is concerning. I'd welcome a coaching change if/when we get another top star quite frankly.
This team will flame out or succeed in the next 18 months IMHO. I think we will see another "turned over" roster next year and if that one doesn't contend then we'll see some big changes again.... most likely starting at the top.
You've never seen the 3-ball era before. It's changed the game.
Has it? Other than GS who's succeeded using the 3 primarily? The PHX teams of more than a decade ago shot more 3's and flamed out every year. Same offense in Houston and the have yet to have post season success with it. To me, GS is the exception not a rule to a new era until someone else shows that level of success. If the is the 3-Ball era it started 15 years ago with PHX I'd say.
TyCobb wrote:LeBron been going after Kuzma...he is not happy with him lol
TyCobb wrote:I remember nobody wanting to play with Kobe at the end of his career. I feel like we are now in the same situation with LeBron.
kobe808lak wrote:TyCobb wrote:I remember nobody wanting to play with Kobe at the end of his career. I feel like we are now in the same situation with LeBron.
All of the credit when the team does well, none of the blame when things turn south. To be fair, the whole team stinks.
