Danny Darko wrote:
This would be such a toxic environment to bring a lotto pick into, they have to trade it I would think. That said, I have no earthly idea what they trade it for...
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Danny Darko wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:Danny Darko wrote:
This would be such a toxic environment to bring a lotto pick into, they have to trade it I would think. That said, I have no earthly idea what they trade it for...
TyCobb wrote:Ballerhogger wrote:Danny Darko wrote:
So let’s get the tank out full force and .
Rondo
Hart
Kumza
Wagner
Williamson starting 5
If we're trying to lose, then LeBron needs to start.
USA Celtics in full effect. Amazing chemistry building experience right there for the main core of the team
zimpy27 wrote:Bron had the best +/- of all players on both teams at +9, Kuzma has -17 and no one bats an eyelid it seems.
TyCobb wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Bron had the best +/- of all players on both teams at +9, Kuzma has -17 and no one bats an eyelid it seems.
Because we watched the game.
TyCobb wrote:Ballerhogger wrote:Danny Darko wrote:
So let’s get the tank out full force and .
Rondo
Hart
Kumza
Wagner
Williamson starting 5
If we're trying to lose, then LeBron needs to start.
zimpy27 wrote:Bron had the best +/- of all players on both teams at +9, Kuzma has -17 and no one bats an eyelid it seems.
Kilroy wrote:LeBron to Lakers quickly achieving Howard to Lakers levels of frustration... Any chance those 2 had a chat before LeBron came...
Landsberger wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Bron had the best +/- of all players on both teams at +9, Kuzma has -17 and no one bats an eyelid it seems.
Kuzma came back in the game at the 4 minute mark during Caruso's FT attempts. He touched the ball offensively just twice in those 4 minutes while we played iso ball with Bron. That was a -11 right there that he had absolutely nothing to do with. This is why ± is a poor individual indicator IMHO. Our change in offensive approach from moving the ball to isolation to let Bron close the game out was the difference in the game and a lot of ±'s on the floor. Luke should get that -11 too.
Landsberger wrote:Kilroy wrote:LeBron to Lakers quickly achieving Howard to Lakers levels of frustration... Any chance those 2 had a chat before LeBron came...
While the outcome is similar the 2 are in no way the same to me. Howard was an underachieving idiot prior to being a Laker. Bron is one of the best to suit up. Bron, on the court hasn't been the issue as much as off the court. I think he and the FO were expecting PG to sign and the team to make more moves than it has to get veteran talent. I'm sure that was the discussion that got him to come here. What is evident is that we need to either get rid of him or go and get that vet talent. Another season with this core will not go well....
PharmD wrote:Landsberger wrote:Kilroy wrote:LeBron to Lakers quickly achieving Howard to Lakers levels of frustration... Any chance those 2 had a chat before LeBron came...
While the outcome is similar the 2 are in no way the same to me. Howard was an underachieving idiot prior to being a Laker. Bron is one of the best to suit up. Bron, on the court hasn't been the issue as much as off the court. I think he and the FO were expecting PG to sign and the team to make more moves than it has to get veteran talent. I'm sure that was the discussion that got him to come here. What is evident is that we need to either get rid of him or go and get that vet talent. Another season with this core will not go well....
3x NBA DPOY, top 5 in MVP voting 4x. Led a team whose 2nd best player was Hedo Turkyglue to the conference finals. He's been an underachieving idiot ever since he was traded to the Lakers, not before.
zimpy27 wrote:Landsberger wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Bron had the best +/- of all players on both teams at +9, Kuzma has -17 and no one bats an eyelid it seems.
Kuzma came back in the game at the 4 minute mark during Caruso's FT attempts. He touched the ball offensively just twice in those 4 minutes while we played iso ball with Bron. That was a -11 right there that he had absolutely nothing to do with. This is why ± is a poor individual indicator IMHO. Our change in offensive approach from moving the ball to isolation to let Bron close the game out was the difference in the game and a lot of ±'s on the floor. Luke should get that -11 too.
Bron was on the court too, so he was +20 before that?