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What's your top star priority list? 

Post#1 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:31 am

out of this coming off season I'm curious to know what order you would put the most effort in, on getting that much 2nd star?

Kevin Durant - Player Option - Golden State Warriors. ...
Kawhi Leonard - Player Option - Toronto Raptors. ...
Kyrie Irving - Player Option - Boston Celtics. ...
Klay Thompson - Unrestricted - Golden State Warriors.
Jimmy Butter - Philly
Tobias Harris
Kemba Walker
Demarcus Cousins

That's just a small list i'm sure there are more I'm missing if,
you were to put the most effort in trying to get who would you put from 1 to 3

My order is

1) Kawhi Leonard
2) Kyrie Irving - only because his played with Lebron
3)Klay Thompson

I would say KD but I doubt he'll come over ?
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Post#2 » by Kilroy » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:16 am

The reality is, there's really only one player out there who we can add to LeBron and instantly have a title contender, while also having a player young enough who can gradually take over for LeBron and become the face of the franchise...

That's AD...

I'd like Kawhi also, but a Lebron/Kawhi pairing isn't going to get us out of the West without a hell of a lot of help, and I just don't see Kawhi as the Face of the Lakers type...
KD is good enough right now, but not a whole lot younger than LeBron... Klay would be great as a 3rd wheel... Butler is almost as uncoachable as LeBron at this point, not sure I see that as a fruitful union... Kyrie is also a great 3rd wheel on a championship team...
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This league is light on transcendent stars right now... There's a lot of grade A talent, but no real next level players. Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/AI... Not to mention MJ/Magic/Bird/Hakeem...
AD and sometimes Giannis, are about the closest we have right now...

So for me, we need to go all-in for AD again, and if that fails, I'm not sure any of the top guys are really worth it...

Only other option would be some crazy trade for the right to pick Zion... But as great as he seems on paper, I'm really hesitant to go all-in for him as the future face of the Lakers... He seems a little more like a slightly more skilled Julius Randle, rather than the next LeBron...

So for me, I'm starting to think the smart money would be to go back into wait and see mode... Trade LeBron for a **** ton of picks, start amassing assets, and wait for the next superstar to come out of college or Europe...
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Post#3 » by ROballer » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:18 am

Kyrie because this move will also secure the Davis trade.
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Post#4 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:30 am

ROballer wrote:Kyrie because this move will also secure the Davis trade.


Ive thought of this before. Seems so funny but really smart if you ask me.

Once you add Kyrie, Celts will back out from the AD lottery and that leads you guys to be the lone option for the Pels.
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Post#5 » by ROballer » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:32 am

Yeah, that's pretty much it. I've made numerous posts on this topic. And we got a top 10 pick to boot from this year's deadline.
With the Celts backing out of the deal(With Kyrie gone and the package needed to secure Davis, the Celts would be left with basically Hayward and Horford as secondary pieces. Everyone and their grandmas know that won't be enough for Davis to resign in 2020), we can also keep part of the youth on the team, and not throw every guy on the damn roster on the package.

For the salaries to work, Ball+ Ingram + Wagner + top 10 pick is enough for Davis straight up.
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Post#6 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:45 am

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That's AD...



I just don't want us to trade the young guns for him - Unless we get that 2nd star first (ie Kyrie more then likely) then yeh I'd consider trading them.
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Post#7 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:19 pm

Kawhi, then AD, and then Kyrie.
KD can go elsewhere.
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Post#8 » by One Love » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:09 pm

Kyrie Irving has to be our TOP “Unrestricted or Player Option” target... He has played with LBJ, fills a position of need (Lonzo plays half season) & wants a change...

I am DONE with the AD drama... I would throw a solid contract with outs at Cousins than send Lonzo to Phoenix for assets & build a team...

Kyrie, Bullock, LBJ, Kuzz & Cousins works for me with Rondo, Hart, Wagner, McGee & our picks on the bench...

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Post#9 » by dockingsched » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:42 pm

The Lakers best case scenario is signing a star first then trading for one. With that mind I go after Kyrie in the hopes that landing him facilitates an AD trade for reasons mentioned in this thread (Boston pulls all legit offers for AD).
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Post#10 » by stan francisco » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:55 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:out of this coming off season I'm curious to know what order you would put the most effort in, on getting that much 2nd star?

Kevin Durant - Player Option - Golden State Warriors. ...
Kawhi Leonard - Player Option - Toronto Raptors. ...
Kyrie Irving - Player Option - Boston Celtics. ...
Klay Thompson - Unrestricted - Golden State Warriors.
Jimmy Butter - Philly
Tobias Harris
Kemba Walker
Demarcus Cousins

That's just a small list i'm sure there are more I'm missing if,
you were to put the most effort in trying to get who would you put from 1 to 3

My order is

1) Kawhi Leonard
2) Kyrie Irving - only because his played with Lebron
3)Klay Thompson

I would say KD but I doubt he'll come over ?



We won’t get AD. Pelicans said so. Durant wants to team up with Kyrie in NY. My gut thinks so. Assuming that LBJ is traded to NYK for the top pick (Zion) — which I insist that we do — and assuming we build around what we have and need; next to Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma and Zion, my priority based on fit are:

Step 1) Klay

Ball
Klay
Ingram
Kuzma (LBJ to NYK for...)
Zion


Step 2) Vucevic & Beverly

Ball, Rondo, Caruso
Klay, Beverly, Hart
Ingram, Hart
Kuzma, Wagner, Hart
Zion, Vucevic, Wagner


Step 3) Fill in with a veteran PF and a drafted PF.

Ball, Rondo, Caruso
Klay, Beverly, Hart
Ingram, Hart, 2nd round SF
Kuzma, Vet PF, 1st rounder PF
Zion, Vucevic, Wagner
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Post#11 » by Landsberger » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:57 pm

dockingsched wrote:The Lakers best case scenario is signing a star first then trading for one. With that mind I go after Kyrie in the hopes that landing him facilitates an AD trade for reasons mentioned in this thread (Boston pulls all legit offers for AD).


This looks good on paper but Kyrie, AD and Bron together?.... that's a lot of basketballs. I'd go for a more balanced team and get a 5 like Vucevic who can fill in the gaps over AD who is a primary scorer and needs touches. That doesn't solve the post Bron "face of the franchise" that Jeannie wants but it may be a better "fit". Whether it's Vucevic or another guy like him I'm more on the side of getting 2 top stars and a great support group over 3 stars and a mix of vet minimum and G leagues.
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Post#12 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:08 pm

stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:



We won’t get AD. Pelicans said so.

BJ to NYK for...)
Zion


That I know it's why I didn't include him here, but it's also about "Top FA's not trades

But anything can happen between now and then.

I'd love for us to trade LBJ, probably more then anyone here including MILES, but that isn't going to happen a Maginka have a hard on for him - only way we trade for him is if we can't get that 2nd star, then I can see it happening IMO
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Post#13 » by stan francisco » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:57 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:



We won’t get AD. Pelicans said so.

BJ to NYK for...)
Zion


That I know it's why I didn't include him here, but it's also about "Top FA's not trades

But anything can happen between now and then.

I'd love for us to trade LBJ, probably more then anyone here including MILES, but that isn't going to happen a Maginka have a hard on for him - only way we trade for him is if we can't get that 2nd star, then I can see it happening IMO


This summer or we’re stuck with him, to miles’ point. LBJ for Zion seems like something all parties should be happy with. This way his and Klutch’s feefees won’t hurt so much (=puts it in the realm of plausible).
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Post#14 » by RamonSessions7 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:12 am

1)kawhi 2)kd 3)kyrie 4)trade lebron
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Post#15 » by TylersLakers » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:23 am

1) Kawhi
2) KD
3) Klay
4) Kyrie
5) Kemba
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Post#16 » by EggIsCooling » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:10 pm

Take the keys from Luke and wish him much success at UCLA/Arizona/whatever but here... waste no time in announcing the next headcoach (one with the "it" factor) which will also be involve in selling key free agents to play for the Lakers and do something special... flip the 2019 first round pick (possibly a high pick) and a few young assets for a bonafide star... but first and foremost is to cement the headcoaching position, one where players would love to play for and give their absolute 110%... can't stress this factor enough!
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Post#17 » by what would jack bauer do? » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:50 pm

Trading Lebron would be the wisest move right now as we're not contenders and Lebron is only getting older and more uncoachable on the defensive end. His value would net us so much at this point and like he said the NBA is a business. Shaq didn't cry foul when he bounced around in his late career.

But the reality of this summer seems to be: Lebron is untradeable in Magic's eyes, Durant won't play with Lebron, Kyrie may be wooed but is heavily linked to the Knicks Durant/kyrie/DeAndre plan, the Pelicans will not trade us AD unless we win a top 4 pick, and Kawhi will be choosing between Toronto and the Clippers.

The main principle behind building the roster this summer must be our starting lineup must be constructed to avoid putting Lebron with another non defender on the floor at the same time. Lebron doesn't play defense consistently, Kuzma is overall a bad defender, and Rondo is a prime example of the headache of bringing a non defender star pg like Kyrie to play next to Lebron in the west looks like. When Lebron/Kuzma/Rondo get heavy rotation minutes together we're 30th in the league in defense.

To bring in Kyrie or Kemba to play with Lebron would essentially be giving up on AD via 2020 free agency. So imo we need to approach this summer with the gamble of internal development turning us into contenders for next season. And as much as the one year contract has destroyed our franchise this decade, we must explore that option again this summer along with bringing in a significant free agent to prevent the roster from being susceptible to injuries derailing an entire season.

That said here is my star free agent priority list, essentially waiting it out for AD

1. Kawhi (not likely)
2. Klay (not likely)
3. Terry Rozier (on a 17mil or less deal)
4. Julius Randle (beg him to return for 17-20mil)

Yep I said it, Terry Rozier or at least a player along that frame of mind. Despite his struggle to play behind kyrie this year, defensively he and Marcus Smart were at the top of the NBA in terms of drpm last season. I would even start the guy if it made him happy. You go all out on defense for us you get to start. I start Lonzo at the other guard slot and we unleash some real defensive firepower on the league. That limits Lonzo's wear and tear chasing pgs as a 6'6" (looks like he grew to 6'7" to me) and you still get Lonzo's defensive prowess which had us at 7th in defense when he played this season.

Other than that I explore the one year deal to shore up the front court or even find a legit big man via the draft. I also explore trading Kuzma and our 2019 pick if it means we get a shot blocking big man that can rebound and outhustle the opposing bigs nightly.
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Post#18 » by nzahir » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:08 pm

what would jack bauer do? wrote:Trading Lebron would be the wisest move right now as we're not contenders and Lebron is only getting older and more uncoachable on the defensive end. His value would net us so much at this point and like he said I'm the NBA is a business, Shaq didn't cry foul when he bounced around in his late career.

But the reality of this summer seems to be: Lebron is untradeable in Magic's eyes, Durant won't play with Lebron, Kyrie may be wooed but is heavily linked to the Knicks Durant/kyrie/DeAndre plan, the Pelicans will not trade us AD unless we win a top 4 pick, and Kawhi will be choosing between Toronto and the Clippers.

The main principle behind building the roster this summer must be our starting lineup must be constructed to avoid putting Lebron with another non defender on the floor at the same time. Lebron doesn't play defense consistently, Kuzma is overall a bad defender, and Rondo is a prime example of the headache of bringing a non defender star pg like Kyrie to play next to Lebron in the west looks like. When Lebron/Kuzma/Rondo get heavy rotation minutes together we're 30th in the league in defense.

To bring in Kyrie or Kemba to play with Lebron would essentially be giving up on AD via 2020 free agency. So imo we need to approach this summer with the gamble of internal development turning us into contenders for next season. And as much as the one year contract has destroyed our franchise this decade, we must explore that option again this summer along with bringing in a significant free agent to prevent the roster from being susceptible to injuries derailing an entire season.

That said here is my star free agent priority list, essentially waiting it out for AD

1. Kawhi (not likely)
2. Klay (not likely)
3. Terry Rozier (on a 17mil or less deal)
4. Julius Randle (beg him to return for 17-20mil)

Yep I said it, Terry Rozier or at least a player along that frame of mind. Despite his struggle to play behind kyrie this year, defensively he and Marcus Smart were at the top of the NBA in terms of drpm last season. I would even start the guy if it made him happy. You go all out on defense for us you get to start. I start Lonzo at the other guard slot and we unleash some real defensive firepower on the league. That limits Lonzo's wear and tear chasing pgs as a 6'6" (looks like he grew to 6'7" to me) and you still get Lonzo's defensive prowess which had us at 7th in defense when he played this season.

Other than that I explore the one year deal to shore up the front court or even find a legit big man via the draft. I also explore trading Kuzma and our 2019 pick if it means we get a shot blocking big man that can rebound and outhustle the opposing bigs nightly.

Rozier on a 1 year right?

We need to save cap space for AD so 1 years only and BI needs to be moved or Lonzo next summer to make it all work.

I would rather give big time 1 years than waste cap on Jimmy, Boogie, or even Kemba
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Post#20 » by what would jack bauer do? » Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:13 pm

nzahir wrote:
what would jack bauer do? wrote:Trading Lebron would be the wisest move right now as we're not contenders and Lebron is only getting older and more uncoachable on the defensive end. His value would net us so much at this point and like he said I'm the NBA is a business, Shaq didn't cry foul when he bounced around in his late career.

But the reality of this summer seems to be: Lebron is untradeable in Magic's eyes, Durant won't play with Lebron, Kyrie may be wooed but is heavily linked to the Knicks Durant/kyrie/DeAndre plan, the Pelicans will not trade us AD unless we win a top 4 pick, and Kawhi will be choosing between Toronto and the Clippers.

The main principle behind building the roster this summer must be our starting lineup must be constructed to avoid putting Lebron with another non defender on the floor at the same time. Lebron doesn't play defense consistently, Kuzma is overall a bad defender, and Rondo is a prime example of the headache of bringing a non defender star pg like Kyrie to play next to Lebron in the west looks like. When Lebron/Kuzma/Rondo get heavy rotation minutes together we're 30th in the league in defense.

To bring in Kyrie or Kemba to play with Lebron would essentially be giving up on AD via 2020 free agency. So imo we need to approach this summer with the gamble of internal development turning us into contenders for next season. And as much as the one year contract has destroyed our franchise this decade, we must explore that option again this summer along with bringing in a significant free agent to prevent the roster from being susceptible to injuries derailing an entire season.

That said here is my star free agent priority list, essentially waiting it out for AD

1. Kawhi (not likely)
2. Klay (not likely)
3. Terry Rozier (on a 17mil or less deal)
4. Julius Randle (beg him to return for 17-20mil)

Yep I said it, Terry Rozier or at least a player along that frame of mind. Despite his struggle to play behind kyrie this year, defensively he and Marcus Smart were at the top of the NBA in terms of drpm last season. I would even start the guy if it made him happy. You go all out on defense for us you get to start. I start Lonzo at the other guard slot and we unleash some real defensive firepower on the league. That limits Lonzo's wear and tear chasing pgs as a 6'6" (looks like he grew to 6'7" to me) and you still get Lonzo's defensive prowess which had us at 7th in defense when he played this season.

Other than that I explore the one year deal to shore up the front court or even find a legit big man via the draft. I also explore trading Kuzma and our 2019 pick if it means we get a shot blocking big man that can rebound and outhustle the opposing bigs nightly.

Rozier on a 1 year right?

We need to save cap space for AD so 1 years only and BI needs to be moved or Lonzo next summer to make it all work.

I would rather give big time 1 years than waste cap on Jimmy, Boogie, or even Kemba


Yeah I dont know the number crunch, but if there's a way to get ad, lebron, lonzo, Ingram, and rozier all together in 2020 I do it. The offense will be fine, we can always find shooters on smaller deals. We need defenders at the forefront of he roster.

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