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Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker

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Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#1 » by Dr Aki » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:59 pm



pros
- ultra young (won't turn 19 until Thanksgiving), may yet grow another inch
- 6'4", 240 lbs, 7'1" wingspan
- super chonky
- still crazy athletic
- apparently kawhi-sized hands
- decent handles, great PnR ball handler
- fantastic defender
- shot 70% at the rim (!!!)

cons
- klutch klient
- streaky shooter
- needs better shot selection

Read on Twitter


he reminds me of a shorter ron artest with a smoother shooting stroke, like how ron used to use his butt to move everyone out of the way. maybe a pj tucker comparison might be useful



no pelinka crazy ass story though
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Post#2 » by LordBri14 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:01 pm

We need him for defense. He’s a good pickup i think.
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Post#3 » by tdfoss1 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:14 pm

His physicality reminds me of Josh Hart.
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Post#4 » by lakerRD » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:19 pm

Can he be used as bait to trade Mo to clear more cap room?
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Post#5 » by Dr Aki » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:26 pm

lakerRD wrote:Can he be used as bait to trade Mo to clear more cap room?


mo should really return a SRP in return if anything
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#6 » by AGAVE » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:20 pm

watched a few of these videos online of him.
when he can get into position and create spacing, he really relies on that length extension and release to his benefit.
fascinating to watch him do this
will be interesting to see him in SL if there
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#7 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:33 pm

This bodes extremely well:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-top-50-nba-draft-prospects-according-to-our-carmelo-projections/

538s CARMELO stat ranked Talen as the prospect with the 3rd highest upside in the draft, behind Zion and Hayes. Comparisons are Ariza and Gerald Wallace.

When adjusting CARMELO with scout ranking Talen falls to 9th.
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#8 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:18 pm

From BBall-reference:

G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT%
35 34 27.2 4.4 10.9 .406 3.0 6.4 .475 1.4 4.5 .308 1.6 2.5 .625

ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
0.7 4.2 4.9 2.3 1.3 0.7 1.7 2.3 11.8

Couple things stick out to me:
A) .308 is not good 3-point shooting. 40% shooting aint great either.
B) He's close....but needs to get that FT% down a little if he wants to be a Laker.
C) Playing 27minutes, you'd like to see more than 12points, or 5 boards or 2 assists. Unless the guy is legit just a defensive specialist, you gotta wonder how much your gonna get out of the guy. College was easy, right? Now comes the big boys.

Are we in the mode to develop such young / raw player? I'll have to see him in action. If he's not on-point defensively, I don't see this as the right destination for him. Perhaps a trade is best for all.
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#9 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:20 pm

ahh....well the numbers don't line up perfect...but you get the idea.

Kid does have a 1.7 defensive win share. Maybe someone who speaks gobbly-gook can translate? Is that good?
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#10 » by Rakkasan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:29 pm

Dr Aki wrote:

pros
- ultra young (won't turn 19 until Thanksgiving), may yet grow another inch
- 6'4", 240 lbs, 7'1" wingspan
- super chonky
- still crazy athletic
- apparently kawhi-sized hands
- decent handles, great PnR ball handler
- fantastic defender
- shot 70% at the rim (!!!)

cons
- klutch klient
- streaky shooter
- needs better shot selection

Read on Twitter


he reminds me of a shorter ron artest with a smoother shooting stroke, like how ron used to use his butt to move everyone out of the way. maybe a pj tucker comparison might be useful


Klutch Klient as a con seems ridiculous!
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Post#11 » by eckoner » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:58 am

Funny thing is he didn’t even workout for the lakers..... However he has worked out with LBJ


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Post#12 » by what would jack bauer do? » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:20 am

Anyone getting vibes of rich man's Iman shumpert/Marcus smart? but with tons of upside at age 18.

Not saying he's these guys, but he gives me flashes of tyreke evans, Marcus smart, Kawhi, metta, pj tucker, and maybe draymond. Also his body type reminds me of shannon brown :lol: but without the crazy hops and with a ton more game.
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Post#13 » by what would jack bauer do? » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:23 am

^also those impressions are from highlight scouting, which is the worst thing to do. Can't wait to see if those highlights translate in summer league.
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Post#14 » by mc140 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:43 am

Has issues with foot speed.
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Post#15 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:19 am

I don't understand, why you need draft pics if you don't have any in the draft.

I mean don't we/lakers have a G-league and already developing players to be NBA ready etc?

Never understood that. why can't we bring players up from G-league?
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#17 » by Kobeallday » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:27 am

SlimShady83 wrote:I don't understand, why you need draft pics if you don't have any in the draft.

I mean don't we/lakers have a G-league and already developing players to be NBA ready etc?

Never understood that. why can't we bring players up from G-league?



because players in G-league are 2nd or 3rd tier talent, you can develop all you want but if you don't have the talent then it's a waste of time.
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#18 » by Danny Darko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:33 am

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I'll give Rob this- when he came in and it was Magic blah blah blah he was a psychopath parable story teller. Now he's to the point.

I still think he's a slimy ****, but I think he's also about to teach some people about his contract and legal loophole skills.

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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#19 » by Dr Aki » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:37 am

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jay51024 wrote:


I'll give Rob this- when he came in and it was Magic blah blah blah he was a psychopath parable story teller. Now he's to the point.

I still think he's a slimy ****, but I think he's also about to teach some people about his contract and legal loophole skills.

Carlos Boozer and Kobe did not worship to the alter of his agent lawyership for nothing


also iggy, dude went into bat on national tv for pelinka
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Re: Lakers buys #46 from Orlando and selects Talen Horton-Tucker 

Post#20 » by stan francisco » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:17 am

what would jack bauer do? wrote:Anyone getting vibes of rich man's Iman shumpert/Marcus smart? but with tons of upside at age 18.

Not saying he's these guys, but he gives me flashes of tyreke evans, Marcus smart, Kawhi, metta, pj tucker, and maybe draymond. Also his body type reminds me of shannon brown :lol: but without the crazy hops and with a ton more game.


This gives me great hope. 18 is young.

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