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Post#161 » by LakersLegacy » Fri Sep 6, 2019 11:53 pm

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Green
Kuz
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IF AD and Kuz improves their 3 ball - which they say they have. If only Kuz and AD could shoot like Durant. Then they would dominate.
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Post#162 » by tamaraw08 » Sun Sep 8, 2019 7:11 pm

Ball so hard wrote:
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We don't disagree anyway, KCP doesn't play D & all the evidence we have in the form of Advanced Stats/Metrics agrees with that[/b]. https://www.cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/547/onoff#tab-team_efficiency

It's great that we agree on most of our opinions and the basis/stats are there too.
I think it's pretty clear now that how much I dislike KCP and I actually I based most of it on how much he disappeared when his team needed him most esp when Lebron and Ball got hurt and the time about the trade rumors started. His catch and shoot % seems good enough but then again I ask, how well did he do in Dec to Feb the past 2 years from that stat?
[b]Let me be clear again that I am hoping and praying that he proves me wrong this coming season bec if he fails esp in the early part, might as well give those minutes to Caruso. Rivers would find mins to Lou Williams even if he's a bad defender bet timeouts the last 1-2 mins of his shooting, Might as well use those instances on Cook who shot 46.6% last season and 49% 2 years ago on catch and shoot from the 3pt area, then use Bradley or Caruso on defense.


You're allowing your bias toward KCP affect your ability to be objective. I give you credit for acknowledging your bias. You conveniently picked a few months in which KCP was awful to state how useless he his. On the other hand, you used a month or so in which Caruso was solid to state how much better he was. I'm honestly not sure why people continue to use Caruso's small sample size to project his future. Some are even saying he's an excellent shooter... a guy who had 24 3PM last season. Let that sink in for a second. I pretty much have to assume much of Caruso's praise are hyperbolic.

I just hope and pray KCP proves me wrong bec you are right I am biased against him but not just nitpicking some 3pt shooting stats though.
He has a career 34.5% from the 3pt area, which he hit last season but to most, that's quite alright but based on ESPN for the entire SG's, only 9 players were worst than him. But it's not just about 3pt shooting, he also ranked very low on baskeball ref DRTG AND DBPM BUT ok, some fans don't like those advanced stats, that is why ESPN invented their own advanced metric, the DRPM where he ranked 96th among 108 SGs, last 3 years he has a negative rating but again I would be ecstatic if he proves me wrong this coming season.
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Post#163 » by lalalaker » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:49 am

i dont mind a 3 pt specialist but couldnt we at least signed a player who is strong enough to guard a 3 and 4. toronto last year had a big lineup that gsw couldnt match up with.
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Post#164 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:23 pm

lalalaker wrote:i dont mind a 3 pt specialist but couldnt we at least signed a player who is strong enough to guard a 3 and 4. toronto last year had a big lineup that gsw couldnt match up with.


You really think Anthony Davis couldn't guard tall SF and esp 4?
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Post#165 » by zimpy27 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:33 pm

PG: LeBron | Caruso- | Cook -- | Rondo
SG: KCP --- | Bradley | Daniels
SF: Green - | Thabo - | THT
PF: Davis -- | Kuzma- | Dudley
C : Howard | McGee- |
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Post#166 » by stan francisco » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:50 am

zimpy27 wrote:PG: LeBron | Caruso- | Cook -- | Rondo
SG: KCP --- | Bradley | Daniels
SF: Green - | Thabo - | THT
PF: Davis -- | Kuzma- | Dudley
C : Howard | McGee- |


Finally, when I give up, another LBJ-at-point proponent. :clap:

Since nobody (but you and Ty) supported the thought, I thought of another way of going huge, which I think is something we must do (go big) for max dominance. Why? Because of AD’s ultra unique skill set.

PG: Caruso | Bradley | Rondo | Norvell
SG: Davis | Green | Pope | Daniels | Cook
SF: LeBron | Kuzma | Green | THT | Caroline
PF: Kuzma | Davis | Dudley | Cacok
C: McGee | Coward | Antetokuonmpo

Opposing coaches will have nightmares before and after every Lakers game if we start him at the two or three. Klay will shake his head around the fifteenth time AD shoots a jumper way over his head.

It makes little sense to me to trade Kuzma for a guard when we already have a ton of half assed guards. We should consolidate our guards instead. Trade KCP and Cook (or Daniels) instead for a PG, not Kuzma. His $ value in a trade is at what will be a career low. His playing contributions will be far above his pay grade this season. We’d be crazy to trade him now. That’s what we want, star players at a cheap price, right?

Man, plug in Iggy (or Livingston) and this team is close to complete. With Iggy, our potential SF rotation is absolutely sick, and super versatile. As of now we’re guard heavy, thin at SF and C.

I’m not worried about the PG spot. We have what we need in terms of playmaking needs. Defense and open three pointers made (and decent enough playmaking to get the ball to LBJ or AD) can be had from Bradley, Rondo, Caruso, Norvell.

Trade KCP and filler for a true 3&D point guard.

SF: add Iggy
C: add no-name Euro vet rebounder and banger and passer a la Nurkic.
2019-20
PG: Caruso, Bradley, Rondo, Cook
SG: Green, Caruso, Pope, Daniels
SF: James, Kuzma, Green, THT
PF: Davis, Kuzma, Dud, Cacok
C: Howard, McGee, Kostas, Davis

Go huge: PG James | SG Kuz | SF Davis | PF Cousins | C Howard

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Re: Lakers Starting Line up 

Post#167 » by zimpy27 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:33 pm

stan francisco wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:PG: LeBron | Caruso- | Cook -- | Rondo
SG: KCP --- | Bradley | Daniels
SF: Green - | Thabo - | THT
PF: Davis -- | Kuzma- | Dudley
C : Howard | McGee- |


Finally, when I give up, another LBJ-at-point proponent. :clap:

Since nobody (but you and Ty) supported the thought, I thought of another way of going huge, which I think is something we must do (go big) for max dominance. Why? Because of AD’s ultra unique skill set.

PG: Caruso | Bradley | Rondo | Norvell
SG: Davis | Green | Pope | Daniels | Cook
SF: LeBron | Kuzma | Green | THT | Caroline
PF: Kuzma | Davis | Dudley | Cacok
C: McGee | Coward | Antetokuonmpo

Opposing coaches will have nightmares before and after every Lakers game if we start him at the two or three. Klay will shake his head around the fifteenth time AD shoots a jumper way over his head.

It makes little sense to me to trade Kuzma for a guard when we already have a ton of half assed guards. We should consolidate our guards instead. Trade KCP and Cook (or Daniels) instead for a PG, not Kuzma. His $ value in a trade is at what will be a career low. His playing contributions will be far above his pay grade this season. We’d be crazy to trade him now. That’s what we want, star players at a cheap price, right?

Man, plug in Iggy (or Livingston) and this team is close to complete. With Iggy, our potential SF rotation is absolutely sick, and super versatile. As of now we’re guard heavy, thin at SF and C.

I’m not worried about the PG spot. We have what we need in terms of playmaking needs. Defense and open three pointers made (and decent enough playmaking to get the ball to LBJ or AD) can be had from Bradley, Rondo, Caruso, Norvell.

Trade KCP and filler for a true 3&D point guard.

SF: add Iggy
C: add no-name Euro vet rebounder and banger and passer a la Nurkic.


Well I can't agree with this. Lakers need a guy to defend PGs and a guy to defend SGs on the court at the same time.

Why would you choose Kuzma to start over Green when green is the better defender of SGs and the better 3 shooter?
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Re: Lakers Starting Line up 

Post#168 » by stan francisco » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:51 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:PG: LeBron | Caruso- | Cook -- | Rondo
SG: KCP --- | Bradley | Daniels
SF: Green - | Thabo - | THT
PF: Davis -- | Kuzma- | Dudley
C : Howard | McGee- |


Finally, when I give up, another LBJ-at-point proponent. :clap:

Since nobody (but you and Ty) supported the thought, I thought of another way of going huge, which I think is something we must do (go big) for max dominance. Why? Because of AD’s ultra unique skill set.

PG: Caruso | Bradley | Rondo | Norvell
SG: Davis | Green | Pope | Daniels | Cook
SF: LeBron | Kuzma | Green | THT | Caroline
PF: Kuzma | Davis | Dudley | Cacok
C: McGee | Coward | Antetokuonmpo

Opposing coaches will have nightmares before and after every Lakers game if we start him at the two or three. Klay will shake his head around the fifteenth time AD shoots a jumper way over his head.

It makes little sense to me to trade Kuzma for a guard when we already have a ton of half assed guards. We should consolidate our guards instead. Trade KCP and Cook (or Daniels) instead for a PG, not Kuzma. His $ value in a trade is at what will be a career low. His playing contributions will be far above his pay grade this season. We’d be crazy to trade him now. That’s what we want, star players at a cheap price, right?

Man, plug in Iggy (or Livingston) and this team is close to complete. With Iggy, our potential SF rotation is absolutely sick, and super versatile. As of now we’re guard heavy, thin at SF and C.

I’m not worried about the PG spot. We have what we need in terms of playmaking needs. Defense and open three pointers made (and decent enough playmaking to get the ball to LBJ or AD) can be had from Bradley, Rondo, Caruso, Norvell.

Trade KCP and filler for a true 3&D point guard.

SF: add Iggy
C: add no-name Euro vet rebounder and banger and passer a la Nurkic.


Well I can't agree with this. Lakers need a guy to defend PGs and a guy to defend SGs on the court at the same time.

Why would you choose Kuzma to start over Green when green is the better defender of SGs and the better 3 shooter?


More like choosing AD to start over Green. It’s about size advantage and I’m well aware it’s a gamble just like LBJ at point. I think that going huge should be a part of our strategy, something we do for stretches, the four towers. I’m after mismatches which will force the opposing coach to react.
2019-20
PG: Caruso, Bradley, Rondo, Cook
SG: Green, Caruso, Pope, Daniels
SF: James, Kuzma, Green, THT
PF: Davis, Kuzma, Dud, Cacok
C: Howard, McGee, Kostas, Davis

Go huge: PG James | SG Kuz | SF Davis | PF Cousins | C Howard

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Post#169 » by zimpy27 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:19 pm

stan francisco wrote:
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Finally, when I give up, another LBJ-at-point proponent. :clap:

Since nobody (but you and Ty) supported the thought, I thought of another way of going huge, which I think is something we must do (go big) for max dominance. Why? Because of AD’s ultra unique skill set.

PG: Caruso | Bradley | Rondo | Norvell
SG: Davis | Green | Pope | Daniels | Cook
SF: LeBron | Kuzma | Green | THT | Caroline
PF: Kuzma | Davis | Dudley | Cacok
C: McGee | Coward | Antetokuonmpo

Opposing coaches will have nightmares before and after every Lakers game if we start him at the two or three. Klay will shake his head around the fifteenth time AD shoots a jumper way over his head.

It makes little sense to me to trade Kuzma for a guard when we already have a ton of half assed guards. We should consolidate our guards instead. Trade KCP and Cook (or Daniels) instead for a PG, not Kuzma. His $ value in a trade is at what will be a career low. His playing contributions will be far above his pay grade this season. We’d be crazy to trade him now. That’s what we want, star players at a cheap price, right?

Man, plug in Iggy (or Livingston) and this team is close to complete. With Iggy, our potential SF rotation is absolutely sick, and super versatile. As of now we’re guard heavy, thin at SF and C.

I’m not worried about the PG spot. We have what we need in terms of playmaking needs. Defense and open three pointers made (and decent enough playmaking to get the ball to LBJ or AD) can be had from Bradley, Rondo, Caruso, Norvell.

Trade KCP and filler for a true 3&D point guard.

SF: add Iggy
C: add no-name Euro vet rebounder and banger and passer a la Nurkic.


Well I can't agree with this. Lakers need a guy to defend PGs and a guy to defend SGs on the court at the same time.

Why would you choose Kuzma to start over Green when green is the better defender of SGs and the better 3 shooter?


More like choosing AD to start over Green. It’s about size advantage and I’m well aware it’s a gamble just like LBJ at point. I think that going huge should be a part of our strategy, something we do for stretches, the four towers. I’m after mismatches which will force the opposing coach to react.


AD starts no question. It's just whether you start Kuzma or Green.
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Post#170 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:32 am

zimpy27 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Well I can't agree with this. Lakers need a guy to defend PGs and a guy to defend SGs on the court at the same time.

Why would you choose Kuzma to start over Green when green is the better defender of SGs and the better 3 shooter?


More like choosing AD to start over Green. It’s about size advantage and I’m well aware it’s a gamble just like LBJ at point. I think that going huge should be a part of our strategy, something we do for stretches, the four towers. I’m after mismatches which will force the opposing coach to react.


AD starts no question. It's just whether you start Kuzma or Green.


Sadly I think King Kuz gonna be injured. I think we should start Green and eventually get Kuz into starting role by allstar break
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Post#171 » by TylersLakers » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:42 pm

stan francisco wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:PG: LeBron | Caruso- | Cook -- | Rondo
SG: KCP --- | Bradley | Daniels
SF: Green - | Thabo - | THT
PF: Davis -- | Kuzma- | Dudley
C : Howard | McGee- |


Finally, when I give up, another LBJ-at-point proponent. :clap:

Since nobody (but you and Ty) supported the thought, I thought of another way of going huge, which I think is something we must do (go big) for max dominance. Why? Because of AD’s ultra unique skill set.

PG: Caruso | Bradley | Rondo | Norvell
SG: Davis | Green | Pope | Daniels | Cook
SF: LeBron | Kuzma | Green | THT | Caroline
PF: Kuzma | Davis | Dudley | Cacok
C: McGee | Coward | Antetokuonmpo

Opposing coaches will have nightmares before and after every Lakers game if we start him at the two or three. Klay will shake his head around the fifteenth time AD shoots a jumper way over his head.

It makes little sense to me to trade Kuzma for a guard when we already have a ton of half assed guards. We should consolidate our guards instead. Trade KCP and Cook (or Daniels) instead for a PG, not Kuzma. His $ value in a trade is at what will be a career low. His playing contributions will be far above his pay grade this season. We’d be crazy to trade him now. That’s what we want, star players at a cheap price, right?

Man, plug in Iggy (or Livingston) and this team is close to complete. With Iggy, our potential SF rotation is absolutely sick, and super versatile. As of now we’re guard heavy, thin at SF and C.

I’m not worried about the PG spot. We have what we need in terms of playmaking needs. Defense and open three pointers made (and decent enough playmaking to get the ball to LBJ or AD) can be had from Bradley, Rondo, Caruso, Norvell.

Trade KCP and filler for a true 3&D point guard.

SF: add Iggy
C: add no-name Euro vet rebounder and banger and passer a la Nurkic.


LeBron will be the de facto PG. He just won't defend 1's. But when he's on the court, he'll act as the Lakers PG. The defending PG job will fall to either Bradley or KCP, whoever starts.

I don't anticipate your line-up would ever start a game, but I absolutely could see it at some point this season.

PS: My dream is the Thunder don't find anything for Chris Paul and he takes a massive buyout come February to get out of his deal. The Lakers would have a wink wink deal with him that they'll re-sign him in the off-season to the MLE (around $9M a season) and he recoups some of that money. Then, Iguoudala gets bought out and signed.

PG: Paul/Bradley/Caruso/Rondo
SG: Green/KCP/Cook
SF: LeBron/Iguoudala/THT
PF: Davis/Kuzma/Dudley
C: Howard/McGee/

That would be a dream. So much line-up flexibility and we get an additional ball handler.
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Post#172 » by Landsberger » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:08 pm

I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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Post#173 » by stan francisco » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:09 pm

TylersLakers wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:PG: LeBron | Caruso- | Cook -- | Rondo
SG: KCP --- | Bradley | Daniels
SF: Green - | Thabo - | THT
PF: Davis -- | Kuzma- | Dudley
C : Howard | McGee- |


Finally, when I give up, another LBJ-at-point proponent. :clap:

Since nobody (but you and Ty) supported the thought, I thought of another way of going huge, which I think is something we must do (go big) for max dominance. Why? Because of AD’s ultra unique skill set.

PG: Caruso | Bradley | Rondo | Norvell
SG: Davis | Green | Pope | Daniels | Cook
SF: LeBron | Kuzma | Green | THT | Caroline
PF: Kuzma | Davis | Dudley | Cacok
C: McGee | Coward | Antetokuonmpo

Opposing coaches will have nightmares before and after every Lakers game if we start him at the two or three. Klay will shake his head around the fifteenth time AD shoots a jumper way over his head.

It makes little sense to me to trade Kuzma for a guard when we already have a ton of half assed guards. We should consolidate our guards instead. Trade KCP and Cook (or Daniels) instead for a PG, not Kuzma. His $ value in a trade is at what will be a career low. His playing contributions will be far above his pay grade this season. We’d be crazy to trade him now. That’s what we want, star players at a cheap price, right?

Man, plug in Iggy (or Livingston) and this team is close to complete. With Iggy, our potential SF rotation is absolutely sick, and super versatile. As of now we’re guard heavy, thin at SF and C.

I’m not worried about the PG spot. We have what we need in terms of playmaking needs. Defense and open three pointers made (and decent enough playmaking to get the ball to LBJ or AD) can be had from Bradley, Rondo, Caruso, Norvell.

Trade KCP and filler for a true 3&D point guard.

SF: add Iggy
C: add no-name Euro vet rebounder and banger and passer a la Nurkic.


LeBron will be the de facto PG. He just won't defend 1's. But when he's on the court, he'll act as the Lakers PG. The defending PG job will fall to either Bradley or KCP, whoever starts.

I don't anticipate your line-up would ever start a game, but I absolutely could see it at some point this season.

PS: My dream is the Thunder don't find anything for Chris Paul and he takes a massive buyout come February to get out of his deal. The Lakers would have a wink wink deal with him that they'll re-sign him in the off-season to the MLE (around $9M a season) and he recoups some of that money. Then, Iguoudala gets bought out and signed.

PG: Paul/Bradley/Caruso/Rondo
SG: Green/KCP/Cook
SF: LeBron/Iguoudala/THT
PF: Davis/Kuzma/Dudley
C: Howard/McGee/

That would be a dream. So much line-up flexibility and we get an additional ball handler.


The lineup that I want features LBJ at point, in my sig.

Iggy yes. I’ve been waiting since the season ended.

Paul would be super valuable at that price but I’d have to hold my nose until he’s traded away.

I think Caruso will start before the Christmas game against the Clips is here.
2019-20
PG: Caruso, Bradley, Rondo, Cook
SG: Green, Caruso, Pope, Daniels
SF: James, Kuzma, Green, THT
PF: Davis, Kuzma, Dud, Cacok
C: Howard, McGee, Kostas, Davis

Go huge: PG James | SG Kuz | SF Davis | PF Cousins | C Howard

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Post#179 » by stan francisco » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:59 pm

My guess at the starting five, first regular season game:

C: j McGee
PF: A Davis
SF: L James
SG: Green

I think this much is to be expected given Kuzma’s injury.

Then the question is if Rondo will be outplayed by Caruso or Bradley or Cook. By Christmas, my money is on Caruso. Since I expect Rondo to underwhelm, Cook to underwhelm, I’d guess our starting PG is eventually gonna be, in game one:

PG: Bradley

Then around Christmas, once Bradley underwhelms:

PG: Caruso
2019-20
PG: Caruso, Bradley, Rondo, Cook
SG: Green, Caruso, Pope, Daniels
SF: James, Kuzma, Green, THT
PF: Davis, Kuzma, Dud, Cacok
C: Howard, McGee, Kostas, Davis

Go huge: PG James | SG Kuz | SF Davis | PF Cousins | C Howard

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