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Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight)

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With Boogie out, what center should the Lakers sign / trade for?

Kenneth Faried (FA)
10
17%
Nerlens Noel (trade)
5
8%
Dwight Howard (FA)
16
27%
Timofey Mozgov (FA)
1
2%
Marcin Gortat (FA)
5
8%
Amir Johnson (FA)
1
2%
Joakim Noah (FA)
16
27%
Tristan Thompson (trade)
2
3%
Other
4
7%
 
Total votes: 60

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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#61 » by stan francisco » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:48 pm

If Howard is our way to get Iggy and if we also sign Bogut or Noah, let’s do it, then drop Howard the next day.

Howard’s max value to us if he doesn’t play, doesn’t ride the pine, not even uses the locker room.

KCP, Cook, Daniels...

Iggy would be a huge addition.
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Post#62 » by tviper » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:56 am

zimpy27 wrote:
tviper wrote:Of course, nobody wants Dwight anywhere near the Lakers roster, but here is one scenario that I could see on Dec. 15th. Take on Dwight in order to get Iggy. Two separate trades for the money to work.

Trade 1
KCP $8,089,282
Cook $3,000,000
Daniels $1,620,564
Total $12,709,846
Total for trade $17,709,846
Iggy = $17,185,185

Trade 2
Cousins $3,500,000
Total for Trade $6,225,000
Dwight = $5,603,850

Memphis saves $5.5M, KCP gets more playing time and a 15% kicker, and Memphis takes on very little money in year 2 depending on whether KCP decides to exercise his PO. Lakers also have cash if necessary to get a deal done.


Trade 2 is a good option on paper. But that may not go down well, trading an injured player.

Trade 1 won't happen because of no trade clauses.

DMC + FRP for Dwight + SRP and Memphis let's Iggy go, and he signs for Lakers.

That would be an ideal scenario but would be stressful to pull off


The trades are simultaneous. Just showing how the money works. The news would be the four Lakers for Iggy and Dwight. The idea here is that KCP would waive the implicit no trade in order to a) get the extra cash in the trade kicker, b) get more playing time to increase his value on the open market next summer. Your deal of including a FRP to let Iggy go is a non-starter because you don't control Iggy's rights. No chance Lakers trade a FRP for Iggy in any event, and if they did, they would trade other contracts in order to get Iggy's Bird Rights.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#63 » by Kilroy » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:44 am

I hate this idea... Howard is going to get it in that Pea Brain of his, that he can compete for a starting position against McGee... He may actually do that, but that won't be enough, because he'll then get it in said pea brain that he can start competing with AD for touches, and when he can't, he'll pull a Dwightgina and start pouting...
He needs to play in some forgotten backwater city with no shot at any legit fame...
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#64 » by Landsberger » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:59 am

Kilroy wrote:I hate this idea... Howard is going to get it in that Pea Brain of his, that he can compete for a starting position against McGee... He may actually do that, but that won't be enough, because he'll then get it in said pea brain that he can start competing with AD for touches, and when he can't, he'll pull a Dwightgina and start pouting...
He needs to play in some forgotten backwater city with no shot at any legit fame...


Yeah..... it's too bad the Idaho Stampede folded.....
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#65 » by Slava » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:10 am

From Ramona's tweet, it looks like all the noise was coming from Dwight's agent.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#66 » by Beethoven » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:51 am

Please no more fumbling the ball in the low post unforced turnovers. Every possession is valuable , and he (dwight) takes that away from LeBron and ad.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#67 » by SlimShady83 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:59 am

Slava wrote:From Ramona's tweet, it looks like all the noise was coming from Dwight's agent.



If Lakers sign him I'll be more peed off then the Lebron signing
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#68 » by Up-And-Coming » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:35 am

Noah for me. I wouldn't be mad at Dwight either though
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#69 » by SlimShady83 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:18 am

IMO we want Mcgee start, he'll be a great starter and have that energy boost etc, but he doesn't need to play full starter min

So need someone to help fill the bench role

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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#70 » by SportsReelLife » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:39 am

Dwight is an obvious answer right now. Noah is not bad either as he moves the ball to everyone else.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#71 » by First Take » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:59 pm

I hope the Lakers bring back both Andrew Bynum and Dwight Howard. I'd prefer Anthony Davis (especially in the regular season), spend little to no time at the center position (primarily due to him not wanting to guard centers and for health reasons). Dwight can earn that starting role, then have McGee or Bynum as a the 2nd/3rd string big man.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#72 » by iQon » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:25 pm

I believe it's time to let this grudge with Dwight go.

With that said, I'd be OK with considering this move a year ago. The goal post has since moved considerably for us, and I just don't see any net positive with Dwight. I'd rather take a gander at our South Bay lineup over him.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#73 » by LAKESHOW » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:43 pm

Agree. We aint in no dam position no way, no how to pick and choose sh&# at the center position. We gotta get what we can get. We dumped a few quality ones and that was our mistake. Bryant and zubac to name a couple. So we are basically stuck getting crap leftovers. If that crap be named DWIGHT, so be it.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#74 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:19 pm

Up-And-Coming wrote:Noah for me. I wouldn't be mad at Dwight either though

both are old, both came from nagging injuries but Noah never had a history of pouting when he doesn't get touches, he didn't go behind management to get his coach fired. He had much better advanced stats than Dwight. Ranked 16th in ESPN Defense Real plus minus with Dwight ranking 38th last season.
Dwight had -2.3 DbPM to Noah's +3.5. Noah has a PER of 18.6 to Howard's 17.4 and he just played 9 freaking games to Joachim's 41 games.
Lakers cannot afford to take a huge gamble on a guy who bailed on them before even when Kobe went on his way to accommodate this guy by trying to involve him on offense making sure he gets touches.
Having said that, I am hoping Lebron would call Tristan Thompson and initiate a buy out from the Cavs to he can sign with the Lakers.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#75 » by zimpy27 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:23 pm

This is the list of big men that can defend and pass:
Noah FA
Bogut FA
Baynes trade (DMC and THT)
Jock Landale has a contract with Lithuania, he's also an option if you can get him out of it.

The last two require a lot of effort in return but they can also shoot the ball.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#76 » by Slava » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:26 pm

zimpy27 wrote:This is the list of big men that can defend and pass:
Noah FA
Bogut FA
Baynes trade (DMC and THT)
Jock Landale has a contract with Lithuania, he's also an option if you can get him out of it.

The last two require a lot of effort in return but they can also shoot the ball.


I don't think Bogut wants any part of pelinka again.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#77 » by RoyceDa59 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:52 pm

Dwight can still drop 13/10/1 in 25-30 minutes of play.

Can he be useful to the current Lakers? So long as he doesn't expect to be a focal point of the offense.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#78 » by snaquille oatmeal » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:58 pm

Whats the word on Gustavo Ayón?
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Re: Best big for Lakers? 

Post#79 » by Ball so hard » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:06 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
jkokkotos wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Agreed. Noah is the right play because defense and some playmaking are the biggest needs without Cousins. Noah makes too much sense.

But if team is set on Dwight then an upside of trading for him is that Lakers can overpay for him in an agreement for Memphis to buyout Iggy. Therefore Lakers can add Iggy which is even better defense and playmaking.

Dwight has lost confidence and love for the game. If Lakers go for Dwight then they need to all get behind him and boost his energy up.


Can we make a trade offer for Dwight? I thought we're out of 1st Round picks until 2026 or so & all of our guys just got signed to their current contracts thus can't be moved before December 15th? Who do we give up, if not the guys we signed during this summer? Kuzma I think not, at least certainly not unless it's a trade package for someone like Covington (#1 SF in DRPM for the last 3 years, 6'9'' forward averaging a combined 36.0% in 6.6 3P Attempts in the last 5 seasons) who can fill a big need & at the same time raise the team a level or two with his addition to the starting lineup. I read one of your posts where you included a 2020 1st Rounder, we still have the right to do that? I've been thinking off possible trade packages for a good wing defender but I wasn't getting anywhere so far because we don't have young talented guys on rookie-scale deals anymore.

I'm not so clear on that either. Lakers likely convey FRP in 2022, so they should be able to move pick in 2020 but maybe that may be blocked by the low possibility of a Lakers pick conveyance in 2021.

They have a 2023 SRP and THT. You can add that to DMC or Cook. Either is enough salary to get Dwight. Saves Memphis 2m. That's an extra 2m they can give Iggy on a buyout. Iggy goes to Lakers after buyout.

That's their best bet of getting a wing and C.


Don't think you can trade either DMC or Cook until December 15th the earliest.
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Re: Best big for Lakers? (update LA interested in Dwight) 

Post#80 » by Spanish_Laker » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:23 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:Whats the word on Gustavo Ayón?


I don't recommend him. I've seen him play in Spain for years, he is a very good rebounder but average defense and not very skilled offensively. Not NBA talent definitely.
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