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Post#201 » by Landsberger » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:41 pm

Clipper's fan! Now I get it! Always scratching for relevance. They were head faked by CP3 and are in the "do loop" again with Leonard.
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Post#202 » by NippySudz » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:44 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:Well listen, you clipper fans wanna be recognized, i get it. You want to be noticed. Understood. The man balled out last night, im just giving the man his props. No need to be a Jive turkey on thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving.
I didn't said he didn't deserved credit. He does. I just think all star ia a bit stretch and early I noted I was rooting for the clippers this year but it doesn't mean I don't acknowledge the Lakers are playing well despite kuzma. I'm critical of the clippers as well. Namely PG 13. You're kinda reaching.

I'm not a LeBron James hater nor anyone on the Lakers. But I do have an issue with the kuzma hyperbole talk. That's my only issue. This isn't a Lakers discussion, this isn't a clippers discussion. It's a kuzma discussion.

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Post#203 » by NippySudz » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:51 pm

Landsberger wrote:Clipper's fan! Now I get it! Always scratching for relevance. They were head faked by CP3 and are in the "do loop" again with Leonard.
Again, how does that change anything I said about my criticisms about kuzma? Are we just going to do genetic fallacies and just say opinions are wrong because of who you root for? Can't I be a fan of the NBA?

A Boston fan weighed in on kuzma, don't see you attacking a Celtics fan for saying kuzma is overrated

What did i say about kuzma that's definitively wrong? If he was traded for a better piece, I surely would acknowledge that. Saying kuzma is not an all star and that he's a roleplayer that can give you 30 some nights and avg 14-16ppg for the season isn't a slanderous statement. In what world does 16points make you an all star?



Unlike cp3, at least kawhi is durable enough to go to a finals and actually win won in any capacity.

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Post#204 » by Landsberger » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:36 pm

NippySudz wrote:Again, how does that change anything I said about my criticisms about kuzma?

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Really?... Are all Clipper fans as unbiased about their team and completely fair about others?

Dude, if you are you'd be a unicorn sitting at the end of a rainbow in a pot of gold with a stream of hears coming out of your butt.... :lol:
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Post#205 » by NippySudz » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:41 pm

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NippySudz wrote:Again, how does that change anything I said about my criticisms about kuzma?

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Really?... Are all Clipper fans as unbiased about their team and completely fair about others?

Dude, if you are you'd be a unicorn sitting at the end of a rainbow in a pot of gold with a stream of hears coming out of your butt....
I'm a player fan first and fans of teams second. I'm fair in my analysis but we can agree to disagree and let the yr play out. No problem. If kuz as as good as you guys are hoping he is, I'd come back and eat crow(not literally) would have no problem doing so.

No championship requirements are attached to it. If the Lakers fail to win the chip but kuzma is averaging all star numbers, I'll admit to it.

If they win and he's putting up all star numbers, I'll admit to it. I'm wondering if you kuzma fanatics would do the same if he doesn't succeed or will you make excuses?


Lets see. I'm willing to wait til the end of the season.

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Post#206 » by snaquille oatmeal » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:17 pm

NippySudz wrote:
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NippySudz wrote:Again, how does that change anything I said about my criticisms about kuzma?

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Really?... Are all Clipper fans as unbiased about their team and completely fair about others?

Dude, if you are you'd be a unicorn sitting at the end of a rainbow in a pot of gold with a stream of hears coming out of your butt....
I'm a player fan first and fans of teams second. I'm fair in my analysis but we can agree to disagree and let the yr play out. No problem. If kuz as as good as you guys are hoping he is, I'd come back and eat crow(not literally) would have no problem doing so.

No championship requirements are attached to it. If the Lakers fail to win the chip but kuzma is averaging all star numbers, I'll admit to it.

If they win and he's putting up all star numbers, I'll admit to it. I'm wondering if you kuzma fanatics would do the same if he doesn't succeed or will you make excuses?


Lets see. I'm willing to wait til the end of the season.

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Post#207 » by Karmaloop » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:24 pm

With the exception of the Warriors' dynasty, when was the last time a team had 3 representatives on the All Star team?
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Post#208 » by infintybeyond » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:06 pm

Karmaloop wrote:With the exception of the Warriors' dynasty, when was the last time a team had 3 representatives on the All Star team?

Cavs with Bron, Kyrie, and Love
Heat with Bron, Wade, Bosh
Hawks with Teague, Millsap, Horford, and Korver
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Post#209 » by NippySudz » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:58 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
Landsberger wrote:
Really?... Are all Clipper fans as unbiased about their team and completely fair about others?

Dude, if you are you'd be a unicorn sitting at the end of a rainbow in a pot of gold with a stream of hears coming out of your butt....
I'm a player fan first and fans of teams second. I'm fair in my analysis but we can agree to disagree and let the yr play out. No problem. If kuz as as good as you guys are hoping he is, I'd come back and eat crow(not literally) would have no problem doing so.

No championship requirements are attached to it. If the Lakers fail to win the chip but kuzma is averaging all star numbers, I'll admit to it.

If they win and he's putting up all star numbers, I'll admit to it. I'm wondering if you kuzma fanatics would do the same if he doesn't succeed or will you make excuses?


Lets see. I'm willing to wait til the end of the season.

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Good because I wasn't talking to you.

You enjoy the NBA how you want to and I'll enjoy it the way I want to. :)

I don't want to be viewed as trolling, so I'll leave the discussion where it's at. Let's check back after the season ends, where Kyle kuzma is and we'll see if he can blossom into more than a role player or is he just a good roleplayer.

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Post#210 » by snaquille oatmeal » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:28 am

NippySudz wrote:
snaquille oatmeal wrote:
NippySudz wrote:I'm a player fan first and fans of teams second. I'm fair in my analysis but we can agree to disagree and let the yr play out. No problem. If kuz as as good as you guys are hoping he is, I'd come back and eat crow(not literally) would have no problem doing so.

No championship requirements are attached to it. If the Lakers fail to win the chip but kuzma is averaging all star numbers, I'll admit to it.

If they win and he's putting up all star numbers, I'll admit to it. I'm wondering if you kuzma fanatics would do the same if he doesn't succeed or will you make excuses?


Lets see. I'm willing to wait til the end of the season.

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Stopped reading after I’m a player fan first.
Good because I wasn't talking to you.

You enjoy the NBA how you want to and I'll enjoy it the way I want to. :)

I don't want to be viewed as trolling, so I'll leave the discussion where it's at. Let's check back after the season ends, where Kyle kuzma is and we'll see if he can blossom into more than a role player or is he just a good roleplayer.
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Post#211 » by NippySudz » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:30 am

snaquille oatmeal wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
snaquille oatmeal wrote:Stopped reading after I’m a player fan first.
Good because I wasn't talking to you.

You enjoy the NBA how you want to and I'll enjoy it the way I want to. :)

I don't want to be viewed as trolling, so I'll leave the discussion where it's at. Let's check back after the season ends, where Kyle kuzma is and we'll see if he can blossom into more than a role player or is he just a good roleplayer.
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Yeah well this is a team forum, but you keep on posting :wink:
I get that. No worries. I'm not hating on the Lakers. I'm only criticizing one cat and his ceiling as other Laker fans have done so in this thread. Best wishes to your team

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Post#212 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:18 am

Landsberger wrote:You need one of these.....

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Post#214 » by stan francisco » Sun Dec 1, 2019 10:22 am

Let’s revisit Kuz before ASB, when he’s got used to all things new, is in the groove again. It looked like his legs are getting under him, 2 of 3 last games.
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PG: James16, Caruso20, Bradley4, Rondo4, Norvell4
SG: Green24, Pope10, Bradley8, Daniels4, Cook2
SF: Kuzma22, James16, THT6, Caroline4
PF: Davis32, Kuzma10, Cacok4, Dudley2
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Post#215 » by Landsberger » Sun Dec 1, 2019 5:43 pm

One of his legs just gave out... While he didn’t have a severe sprain the look on his face said that he’s still worried about that ankle. I hope this isn’t going to be a chronic issue with him.
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Post#216 » by danfantastk32 » Sun Dec 1, 2019 6:45 pm

Landsberger wrote:One of his legs just gave out... While he didn’t have a severe sprain the look on his face said that he’s still worried about that ankle. I hope this isn’t going to be a chronic issue with him.


Yes....a broken Kuzma is something nobody wants.
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Post#217 » by nzahir » Mon Dec 2, 2019 12:06 am

So I just watched the 1st Q and thought we would be fine.... boy was I wrong

But we have been beating weak teams, and barely, as of late.

We could really use Avery back.

We for sure need to make some moves, like I have been saying for a while.

Kuzma as the 3rd scorer wont cut it

Hes not a bad player and has good value. But he is not consistent or ready enough to be a true #3 guy on a legit contender.

He is that 4th guy who can guy off once in a while if your guys get cold.

Tough to make a trade work with our values, especially if we wont include Green, but its possible
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Post#218 » by Beethoven » Mon Dec 2, 2019 12:24 am

Kuzma for iguodala straight up let's do it.
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Post#219 » by NippySudz » Mon Dec 2, 2019 2:23 am

nzahir wrote:So I just watched the 1st Q and thought we would be fine.... boy was I wrong

But we have been beating weak teams, and barely, as of late.

We could really use Avery back.

We for sure need to make some moves, like I have been saying for a while.

Kuzma as the 3rd scorer wont cut it

Hes not a bad player and has good value. But he is not consistent or ready enough to be a true #3 guy on a legit contender.

He is that 4th guy who can guy off once in a while if your guys get cold.

Tough to make a trade work with our values, especially if we wont include Green, but its possible



I agree, but man, lebron is on a mission this year. If there's anyone that can win a championship with an inconsistent 3rd, its definitely Lebron. tied best start in franchise history. Lakers are undeafated against teams under .500

if iggy goes on the lakers via buyout, it plugs the kuzma leak immediately. I've been saying this, but people here think I'm hating when I say the guy is inconsistent and a defensive liability.
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Post#220 » by NippySudz » Mon Dec 2, 2019 2:24 am

Beethoven wrote:Kuzma for iguodala straight up let's do it.

that would be a terrible trade. Not only money, but youth. Kuzma is much more valuable to the lakers than iggy. Iggy is merely a rental.

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