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Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:45 am
by Dasein
Hi Laker fans, I was wondering how Avery Bradley has been playing for your team this season. I noticed he is starting and gets 23 minutes per game but he's shooting 26% from three. Is he good defensively at least? Was he a bad signing for 9 mil a year? Curious to hear your thoughts on him.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:43 am
by Dr Aki
Dasein wrote:Hi Laker fans, I was wondering how Avery Bradley has been playing for your team this season. I noticed he is starting and gets 23 minutes per game but he's shooting 26% from three. Is he good defensively at least? Was he a bad signing for 9 mil a year? Curious to hear your thoughts on him.


He's been great defensively

Yes he sucks at threes

He only earns 4.8 a year

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:00 am
by NippySudz
Don't expect Bradley to be a rotational piece come playoff time.

He's not as good as a defender as people make him out to be and against elite teams, they can't live him in die to his spacing. Caruso plays better d without fouling than Bradley does.

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Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:36 pm
by Landsberger
Bradley is our best defensive guard at the point. He's physical enough to disrupt and quick enough to stay in front of PG's. Caruso is far less effective against PG's. If we're talking about spacing or even getting an occasional bucket why is Caruso even in the discussion. 7 Dunks in 2 years and a few shots that go in in a month is about all we get from him offensively.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 1:37 pm
by NippySudz
Again, who can bradley really guard that's worth guarding? Nobody. Maybe Steph curry because he's able to keep up with the track meet but against notable guards, he hasn't been able to guard not 1. In the playoffs, they're going to be bigger and physical guards that he won't be able to guard.

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Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 4:42 pm
by whitelight
NippySudz wrote:Don't expect Bradley to be a rotational piece come playoff time.

He's not as good as a defender as people make him out to be and against elite teams, they can't live him in die to his spacing. Caruso plays better d without fouling than Bradley does.

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Unless we find something better we're stuck with him.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 4:43 pm
by whitelight
NippySudz wrote:Again, who can bradley really guard that's worth guarding? Nobody. Maybe Steph curry because he's able to keep up with the track meet but against notable guards, he hasn't been able to guard not 1. In the playoffs, they're going to be bigger and physical guards that he won't be able to guard.

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The problem we been having the last 20 years.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 6:42 pm
by Kilroy
Bradley's still our best perimeter defender, and he's actually been making some big 3s for us... I don't have a problem with him, but I've cooled a bit and would include him in a trade if the right deal came along.
We missed him when he was out.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 7:18 pm
by One Love
Caruso should start over Bradley... He shoots better, plays better help defense, creates better and rebounds better... He also has length... AD is a bad fit for us...

Lakeshow Baby...

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 7:24 pm
by Liam_Gallagher
One Love wrote:Caruso should start over Bradley... He shoots better, plays better help defense, creates better and rebounds better... He also has length... AD is a bad fit for us...

Lakeshow Baby...


Caruso has been bad offensively all year. This team is really thin at the SG position.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 8:09 pm
by NippySudz
Kilroy wrote:Bradley's still our best perimeter defender, and he's actually been making some big 3s for us... I don't have a problem with him, but I've cooled a bit and would include him in a trade if the right deal came along.
We missed him when he was out.
You won't miss him when playoffs come around and he has no gravity and he can't defend big guards.

He hasn't showed up in "big" games. Kuzma who isn't known as a defender had to guard Westbrook to slow him down.

Luka got a 30pt triple double the first meeting against the Lakers


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Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 8:14 pm
by whitelight
NippySudz wrote:
Kilroy wrote:Bradley's still our best perimeter defender, and he's actually been making some big 3s for us... I don't have a problem with him, but I've cooled a bit and would include him in a trade if the right deal came along.
We missed him when he was out.
You won't miss him when playoffs come around and he has no gravity and his he can't defend big guards.



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Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 8:18 pm
by NippySudz
Avery Bradley is living off his Boston rep. He's not good anymore.



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Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 9:06 pm
by Landsberger
Caruso does well with what he has but he's a very limited player. He plays the passing lanes well and is decent against larger less athletic guards. I will say that he's better than Green defensively and not by a little bit but that has more to do with Green's decline. Offensively teams are just leaving him alone to clog the paint. He's not a great playmaker and in no way can he create his own shot. At the 2 position that's a pretty big deal.... and when he's backing of a guy who looks like a High School Junior handling the ball in Green we really have a very poor 2 guard rotation in comparison to a lot of teams we will have to play.

As for Bradley... he's the best guard we have. He's able to create a little, score on the move and plays very good defense... not sure how anyone can watch the games and say he's been poor or even average defensively at the point. He's taking guards out of their rhythm nightly with his physical play. Disrupting the timing at the PG level is a key to our entire defense.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sat Feb 1, 2020 9:18 pm
by NippySudz
Landsberger wrote:Caruso does well with what he has but he's a very limited player. He plays the passing lanes well and is decent against larger less athletic guards. I will say that he's better than Green defensively and not by a little bit but that has more to do with Green's decline. Offensively teams are just leaving him alone to clog the paint. He's not a great playmaker and in no way can he create his own shot. At the 2 position that's a pretty big deal.... and when he's backing of a guy who looks like a High School Junior handling the ball in Green we really have a very poor 2 guard rotation in comparison to a lot of teams we will have to play.

As for Bradley... he's the best guard we have. He's able to create a little, score on the move and plays very good defense... not sure how anyone can watch the games and say he's been poor or even average defensively at the point. He's taking guards out of their rhythm nightly with his physical play. Disrupting the timing at the PG level is a key to our entire defense.


Don't fall for the eyetest with Bradley. Just because he looks like he's hustling and bustling doesn't mean that he actually is.

He's not a factor with good teams. I'm not trying to disparage him when I say hes not good. How can he guard a Westbrook with his size and lack of speed? It's a tall order to ask. How can he guard a 6'7 Luka?

If you want to say he's better than Caruso or green then so be it but I'm not sure that's saying much for a championship contending team.

The reason they won against houston, they put kuz on Westbrook instead of Bradley. The reason they lost against the clippers, Bradley was in the game and it allowed the clippers to help off Bradley since he's a 23% pt shooter. Not to mention, he couldn't guard anyone worth guarding on the clippers. Kawhi switched on him, bucket.

Last night, he couldn't do anything to slow dame..lots of "show" effort but not real effort.

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Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2020 1:36 am
by LAKESHOW
Start cook. Who cares. This guy sucks

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2020 1:38 am
by NippySudz
I'm curious to see how effective he can be against de'aaron fox

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Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2020 2:30 am
by whitelight
NippySudz wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Caruso does well with what he has but he's a very limited player. He plays the passing lanes well and is decent against larger less athletic guards. I will say that he's better than Green defensively and not by a little bit but that has more to do with Green's decline. Offensively teams are just leaving him alone to clog the paint. He's not a great playmaker and in no way can he create his own shot. At the 2 position that's a pretty big deal.... and when he's backing of a guy who looks like a High School Junior handling the ball in Green we really have a very poor 2 guard rotation in comparison to a lot of teams we will have to play.

As for Bradley... he's the best guard we have. He's able to create a little, score on the move and plays very good defense... not sure how anyone can watch the games and say he's been poor or even average defensively at the point. He's taking guards out of their rhythm nightly with his physical play. Disrupting the timing at the PG level is a key to our entire defense.


[img]Don't fall for the eyetest with Bradley. Just because he looks like he's hustling and bustling doesn't mean that he actually is.
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He's not a factor with good teams. I'm not trying to disparage him when I say hes not good. How can he guard a Westbrook with his size and lack of speed? It's a tall order to ask. How can he guard a 6'7 Luka?

If you want to say he's better than Caruso or green then so be it but I'm not sure that's saying much for a championship contending team.

The reason they won against houston, they put kuz on Westbrook instead of Bradley. The reason they lost against the clippers, Bradley was in the game and it allowed the clippers to help off Bradley since he's a 23% pt shooter. Not to mention, he couldn't guard anyone worth guarding on the clippers. Kawhi switched on him, bucket.

Last night, he couldn't do anything to slow dame..lots of "show" effort but not real effort.

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That's not what the Lakers said when they signed him.

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2020 2:32 am
by whitelight
LAKESHOW wrote:Start cook. Who cares. This guy sucks


Like that will happen

Re: Avery Bradley

Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2020 3:41 am
by NippySudz
whitelight wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Caruso does well with what he has but he's a very limited player. He plays the passing lanes well and is decent against larger less athletic guards. I will say that he's better than Green defensively and not by a little bit but that has more to do with Green's decline. Offensively teams are just leaving him alone to clog the paint. He's not a great playmaker and in no way can he create his own shot. At the 2 position that's a pretty big deal.... and when he's backing of a guy who looks like a High School Junior handling the ball in Green we really have a very poor 2 guard rotation in comparison to a lot of teams we will have to play.

As for Bradley... he's the best guard we have. He's able to create a little, score on the move and plays very good defense... not sure how anyone can watch the games and say he's been poor or even average defensively at the point. He's taking guards out of their rhythm nightly with his physical play. Disrupting the timing at the PG level is a key to our entire defense.


[img]Don't fall for the eyetest with Bradley. Just because he looks like he's hustling and bustling doesn't mean that he actually is.
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He's not a factor with good teams. I'm not trying to disparage him when I say hes not good. How can he guard a Westbrook with his size and lack of speed? It's a tall order to ask. How can he guard a 6'7 Luka?

If you want to say he's better than Caruso or green then so be it but I'm not sure that's saying much for a championship contending team.

The reason they won against houston, they put kuz on Westbrook instead of Bradley. The reason they lost against the clippers, Bradley was in the game and it allowed the clippers to help off Bradley since he's a 23% pt shooter. Not to mention, he couldn't guard anyone worth guarding on the clippers. Kawhi switched on him, bucket.

Last night, he couldn't do anything to slow dame..lots of "show" effort but not real effort.

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That's not what the Lakers said when they signed him.
They signed him to play great d and hit open shots. Which he doesn't do very well

He's having a great game against sac though but as I said before, against anyone worth guarding and in the playoffs hes going to habe a hard time fulfilling that role and perhaps staying on the floor.

The major losses that the Lakers have had he was not on the floor much because they had to pull him off.

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