danfantastk32 wrote:Don't agree with that take very much. Mitch is prob a bit overrated, but you don't 'idiot' your way to 5 chips. Sorry. And if your gonna go with the "Jerry made all the good decisions" route....then you gotta throw in the bad decisions too.
But whatever.
The league changed....and Mitch was now an 'old mind'. I don't know exactly what the deal with Jim was....but clearly they were unable to bring in stars, and their tenure at the helm was a disaster. The good news is that that is now long past. We are paying $5mil a season for one more year to Deng......and then I don't think there is a single remaining shred of their time. 1 more year.
Same with the Magic / Pelinka era. They got some decent young pieces.....although I have yet to see any one of those guys turn into anything resembling a 'beast'. "Pretty decent player" "Starting to turn into something".....those are phrases you typically hear. Far from what you'd hear about Kobe or KD or something after year 4.
Getting Lebron was the key. And then trading the farm to get AD was what took it over the top. This is what we'll be for a few years, and it's going to be a game of signing what you can to compliment them. With quite a small budget. It's a very different mindset that what Magic/Rob took over 5 or so years back.
And that's pretty much it, IMO. We're gonna ride Lebron for a couple more years, and then try to pair someone else to go with AD. We have our cornerstone for another 7-8 maybe even 10 years. Everyone from Mitch/Jim era are gone, and really all the youth is gone. We have our core, and we're just gonna churn through mid-levels and minimums for a while.
Jerry West brought in Kobe, Shaq, Fisher, Fox, Horry, Shaw, and drafted George ... that was the 3 peat core ... If we are being technical he also brought in Lue and had Rice and Phil there too
Mitch resume really starts with the Horace for Rice move which Phil wanted. Literally his drafts were Luke, Rush, Cook, Bynum, Farmar, Sasha, Turiaf, Yue, Clarkson, Randle, and DAngelo. His signings were George, Cook, Radmanovic, Sasha, Blake, Barnes, Deng, Mozgov. His trades were Dwight, Nash, Kwame, Odom, Pau, Hibbert, Lin, Hill, Ariza, and Sessions. Coaches are Rudy T, Dantoni, Mike Brown, and Byron Scott
Metta signed his deal over a dinner with Jerry Buss, actually announced his decision to come to la over a dinner with Odom. Fisher and Odom had Buss come to them and work out their deals after Mitch dropped the ball and they went to other teams to talk. Phil also directly negotiated with Buss to return and his extensions as said in his book.
Malone and Payton admitted to getting called by Shaq and then getting talked to by Jerry and Magic with magic offering Malone his number 32.
He got free agent meetings with Aldridge and it went so bad the press covered that Aldridge and his agent said Mitch and Jim didn’t know how to talk about basketball and had no plan or idea for the team. They even asked him for a second meeting to try and make up for it and it went bad before he signed with the Spurs. He met with LA before the Spurs and came off saying they don’t know basketball. Carmelo and his wife took a meeting with the Lakers and said they were impressed by everything that Jeanie presented them about being a laker and the things that they both could accomplish but Carmelos criticism was that they had no answer when he asked who is coming to play with me, are you bringing Pau back, what’s your coaching going to be, and he got no answers.
His lack of basketball being coupled with Odom, Fisher, Pau, Payton, Artest all complaining of how he handled their exit is why he was not taken serious. He dealt them and never let them know after titles and years of service so he was seen as a snake. It’s telling that Jeanie says when she asked Kobe what to do with Mitch, he replied fire him and Jim both
We are now seeing Mitch without Jim. In that time he’s lost Kemba. He’s overpaid and gave bad deals out like Rozier, Zeller, and Hayward. He hasn’t made the playoffs. He’s went through a lot of coaches. And he is bottom of the league in attendance. Basically every criticism that