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THT held scoreless 

Post#1 » by Hoop Heavy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:33 pm

Unofficially, it's his worst game of the year.

0 for 8 shooting, 4 assists but 2 turnovers, 2 rebounds but 3 fouls. What a stinker!

I thought he was supposed to be really good. It seems like people were starting threads about him on the GB just last week. What happened?
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Post#2 » by Hoop Heavy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:35 pm

If a post stands in an empty basement and no one sees it ... can it make a thread?
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Post#3 » by Hans1984 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:00 pm

It's just one bad game. It means nothing.
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Post#4 » by Mamba Mentality » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:01 pm

Two things...

First off, Lakers are a dysfunction offense, we need to temper our expectations for everyone outside the big three. Secondly, THT's shot selection and IQ needs to improve, part of that is coaching and part of that is maturation. I still think he'll be a solid player, but it's gonna be a bumpy ride this season given the circumstances.
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Post#5 » by ROballer » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:21 am

They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.
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Post#6 » by zimpy27 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:07 am

He started well but now looks worse than last year. Small sample sizes but not a promising start in totality.
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Post#7 » by NYG » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:18 am

ROballer wrote:They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.


How is he defensively?
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Post#8 » by ROballer » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:21 am

He's average to slightly above average. But he's also 21 and you can't teach a 7'1 wingspan for a guard.
He can be a terror in the passing lanes with those trenches he has and if he puts his mind to it and gets proper coaching, he can be an elite defender.

Better player than what you have in Barrett 1000%. If you came here looking for a deal.

He's just not getting the role he needs here. He needs to be featured in the offense as a player with the ball in his hands, his off the ball game is not there right now.

And he's not getting his touches since 80% of the offense is Lebron and Westbrook taking turns hogging the ball and the others standing around.
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Post#9 » by stan francisco » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:34 pm

NYG wrote:
ROballer wrote:They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.


How is he defensively?


He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.
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SF: THT | Reaves | Bazemore
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C: AD | DH | Huff | DAJ

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Post#10 » by NYG » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:31 pm

stan francisco wrote:
NYG wrote:
ROballer wrote:They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.


How is he defensively?


He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.


Is he coachable, could Thibs mold him defensively? Would Alec Burks for THT make any sense?
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Post#11 » by ROballer » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:54 pm

NYG wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
NYG wrote:
How is he defensively?


He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.


Is he coachable, could Thibs mold him defensively? Would Alec Burks for THT make any sense?



We basically turned down Lowry because we wouldn't include him in the deal last year.

And we paid him a lot of money considering luxury tax implications. He's basically the 3rd best paid player from the 2019 draft right now, just behind Zion and Ja.

So logic should tell you hell to the no. But there is no logic on this team apparently, and I could see a lopsided deal being accepted if it means a better fit for right now, regardless of age. They clearly have gone with Lebron/Davis/Westbrook as the offense with the others just standing and watching.
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Post#12 » by Pythagoras » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:28 pm

ROballer wrote:
NYG wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.


Is he coachable, could Thibs mold him defensively? Would Alec Burks for THT make any sense?



We basically turned down Lowry because we wouldn't include him in the deal last year.

And we paid him a lot of money considering luxury tax implications. He's basically the 3rd best paid player from the 2019 draft right now, just behind Zion and Ja.

So logic should tell you hell to the no. But there is no logic on this team apparently, and I could see a lopsided deal being accepted if it means a better fit for right now, regardless of age. They clearly have gone with Lebron/Davis/Westbrook as the offense with the others just standing and watching.


C’mon now, THT pretty clearly isn’t the 3rd best player from the 2019 draft. We’ve seen actual blue chip talents like Randle, Ingram, and Lonzo leave. THT has intriguing potential but he’s an awkward fit who’s ceiling is only a high end role player. Trading him for a win now piece who’s a better fit isn’t some major loss.
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Post#13 » by zimpy27 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:40 pm

Paying THT and Nunn what they did and not paying Caruso is the biggest mistake of the offseason.

Caruso had to be the priority


The Westbrook trade was not as bad as letting Caruso walk.
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Post#14 » by SlimShady83 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:43 am

Should have traded him for an all star when everyone was HIGH on him LOL
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Post#15 » by stan francisco » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:08 pm

He’s 21. I’d tell him to study FVV for the parts of the game he hasn’t yet fully developed; team defense, individual defense, moving off the ball, catch and shoot threes.

He’s very good at reading the game, very long, very good around the rim, very good in offensive isolations from midrange and in.

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PG: RW | Bradley | Rondo
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Post#16 » by Pythagoras » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:04 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Paying THT and Nunn what they did and not paying Caruso is the biggest mistake of the offseason.

Caruso had to be the priority


The Westbrook trade was not as bad as letting Caruso walk.


They could’ve and should’ve kept both. I’m not giving the cheapskate owner a pass for letting Caruso walk in order to save a couple of bucks.
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Post#17 » by stan francisco » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:09 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Paying THT and Nunn what they did and not paying Caruso is the biggest mistake of the offseason.

Caruso had to be the priority


The Westbrook trade was not as bad as letting Caruso walk.


Losing Kuz, KCP and Harrell for RW on a gamble would’ve perhaps been a bit more okay had they kept a defensive insurance policy like Caruso, as a safety net for a risky trade.

Both were huge mistakes, Rich Paul. Huge mistakes.

Westbrook is a $44M expiring next season. Get us FVV.
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