THT held scoreless

[Hoop Heavy]

Unofficially, it's his worst game of the year.

0 for 8 shooting, 4 assists but 2 turnovers, 2 rebounds but 3 fouls. What a stinker!

I thought he was supposed to be really good. It seems like people were starting threads about him on the GB just last week. What happened?

[Hoop Heavy]

If a post stands in an empty basement and no one sees it ... can it make a thread?

[Hans1984]

It's just one bad game. It means nothing.

[Mamba Mentality]

Two things...

First off, Lakers are a dysfunction offense, we need to temper our expectations for everyone outside the big three. Secondly, THT's shot selection and IQ needs to improve, part of that is coaching and part of that is maturation. I still think he'll be a solid player, but it's gonna be a bumpy ride this season given the circumstances.

[ROballer]

They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.

[zimpy27]

He started well but now looks worse than last year. Small sample sizes but not a promising start in totality.

[NYG]

They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.

How is he defensively?

[ROballer]

He's average to slightly above average. But he's also 21 and you can't teach a 7'1 wingspan for a guard.
He can be a terror in the passing lanes with those trenches he has and if he puts his mind to it and gets proper coaching, he can be an elite defender.

Better player than what you have in Barrett 1000%. If you came here looking for a deal.

He's just not getting the role he needs here. He needs to be featured in the offense as a player with the ball in his hands, his off the ball game is not there right now.

And he's not getting his touches since 80% of the offense is Lebron and Westbrook taking turns hogging the ball and the others standing around.

[stan francisco]

They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.

How is he defensively?

He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.

[NYG]

They want him to be KCT. He's not.

If you're not involving him in the offense(that means ISO's and creating, not standing around in the corner watching Lebron and Westbrook taking turns), trade him for a piece that fits that KCP role and watch him flourish on another team.

How is he defensively?

He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.

Is he coachable, could Thibs mold him defensively? Would Alec Burks for THT make any sense?

[ROballer]

How is he defensively?

He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.

Is he coachable, could Thibs mold him defensively? Would Alec Burks for THT make any sense?

We basically turned down Lowry because we wouldn't include him in the deal last year.

And we paid him a lot of money considering luxury tax implications. He's basically the 3rd best paid player from the 2019 draft right now, just behind Zion and Ja.

So logic should tell you hell to the no. But there is no logic on this team apparently, and I could see a lopsided deal being accepted if it means a better fit for right now, regardless of age. They clearly have gone with Lebron/Davis/Westbrook as the offense with the others just standing and watching.

[Pythagoras]

He’s 21.

He’s a baller, thinks the game the right way, just a little green. Needs minutes. Freakish length, extremely slippery to guard. When defenders think they got him locked down he extends his arm some extra for a simple lay in.

Some say he was the big steal in his draft class. We won’t know until maybe this year or next how well we drafted in THT.

Is he coachable, could Thibs mold him defensively? Would Alec Burks for THT make any sense?

We basically turned down Lowry because we wouldn't include him in the deal last year.

And we paid him a lot of money considering luxury tax implications. He's basically the 3rd best paid player from the 2019 draft right now, just behind Zion and Ja.

So logic should tell you hell to the no. But there is no logic on this team apparently, and I could see a lopsided deal being accepted if it means a better fit for right now, regardless of age. They clearly have gone with Lebron/Davis/Westbrook as the offense with the others just standing and watching.

C’mon now, THT pretty clearly isn’t the 3rd best player from the 2019 draft. We’ve seen actual blue chip talents like Randle, Ingram, and Lonzo leave. THT has intriguing potential but he’s an awkward fit who’s ceiling is only a high end role player. Trading him for a win now piece who’s a better fit isn’t some major loss.

[zimpy27]

Paying THT and Nunn what they did and not paying Caruso is the biggest mistake of the offseason.

Caruso had to be the priority


The Westbrook trade was not as bad as letting Caruso walk.

[SlimShady83]

Should have traded him for an all star when everyone was HIGH on him LOL

[stan francisco]

He’s 21. I’d tell him to study FVV for the parts of the game he hasn’t yet fully developed; team defense, individual defense, moving off the ball, catch and shoot threes.

He’s very good at reading the game, very long, very good around the rim, very good in offensive isolations from midrange and in.

Defense!

[Pythagoras]

Paying THT and Nunn what they did and not paying Caruso is the biggest mistake of the offseason.

Caruso had to be the priority


The Westbrook trade was not as bad as letting Caruso walk.

They could’ve and should’ve kept both. I’m not giving the cheapskate owner a pass for letting Caruso walk in order to save a couple of bucks.

[stan francisco]

Paying THT and Nunn what they did and not paying Caruso is the biggest mistake of the offseason.

Caruso had to be the priority


The Westbrook trade was not as bad as letting Caruso walk.

Losing Kuz, KCP and Harrell for RW on a gamble would’ve perhaps been a bit more okay had they kept a defensive insurance policy like Caruso, as a safety net for a risky trade.

Both were huge mistakes, Rich Paul. Huge mistakes.

Westbrook is a $44M expiring next season. Get us FVV.

[Statlanta]

I found this tweet and it was hilarious

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[euphorbus]

And he's not getting his touches since 80% of the offense is Lebron and Westbrook taking turns hogging the ball and the others standing around.

He took 13 shots against Phoenix. That is a lot of shots. In fact, his usage % is 19.2%, or just under the league average, but higher than for anyone on the team except for James, Davis, Westbrook, and Isaiah Thomas. (Basketball Reference puts it at 19.4%, just behind Carmelo Anthony at 19.5%.) Also, his TS% is 46.1, which is pitiful. By comparison, Davis, Monk, and Ellington are all shooting 56.9%.

Judging by the stats, he should not be in the rotation at all, except in the current emergency situation, much less starting. Putting him out there merely increases the pronounced lack of spacing in the starting lineup.

As to your point about the Big Three taking most of the shots, that is spot on, but totally expected when the roster was put together. How many egos does it take to win a championship? Or should I ask, how many big egos can you fit on one team and still win a championship? Los Angeles could do with a lot more ball movement and sharing of the ball. Currently, LA is 16th in the league in assist ratio.

[Hoop Heavy]

Paying THT and Nunn what they did and not paying Caruso is the biggest mistake of the offseason.

Caruso had to be the priority


The Westbrook trade was not as bad as letting Caruso walk.

Losing Kuz, KCP and Harrell for RW on a gamble would’ve perhaps been a bit more okay had they kept a defensive insurance policy like Caruso, as a safety net for a risky trade.

Both were huge mistakes, Rich Paul. Huge mistakes.

Westbrook is a $44M expiring next season. Get us FVV.

FVV for Westbrook ... please. Aren't you going to offer anything of value?

Turning down the Lowry trade was the shutters slamming shut on "the championship window".

Have you noticed how when Jimmy and Bam went down together - a bunch of no name guys and struggling guys all looked amazing! Without a couple of team-first primary ball handlers like Kyle or FVV (or Lebron ... or CP3 ... etc) a championship id just a dream.

Westbrook like is a chain around your neck ... dragging you down.

Westbrook and 3 FRPs for FVV. Two for Fred ... one for Russ.