2023 1st rounder

[TheHartBreakKid]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong regarding my understanding of the Lakers pick situation

Assuming I got it right, the Lakers will have the lesser of the Pelican/LAL pick in this year's 2023 draft. Considering the Pels are only 1 game ahead of the Lakers as of right now, it's very likely that the Lakers will end up with a 1st rounder somewhere in the 14-20 range this year.

My questions;

1. Does this pick become tradable on draft night if the Lakers agree to a deal before they make the pick?
2. If so, could the Lakers combine this pick with Beasley (if they pick up his team option), and/or Vanderbilt who has a non- guaranteed contract for next year? In a S&T maybe?
3. If the Lakers decide to keep the pick, is there any particular prospect you would want to see LAL draft?


I know things are looking pretty bleak right now, but for the majority of this season we considered this pick something that was lost in the AD trade. But considering the standings, and how much of a crapshoot the draft is in the 14-20 range, this pick could still be a way of adding quality talent.

Curious to see what everyone else is thinking. It's been a long time since we've actually had a first round pick in a draft. Last I remember it was the late pick that was sent for Schroder, which no one expected us to keep.

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As soon as they make their draft selection, lakers can immediately trade the player’s draft rights.

[tamaraw08]

As soon as they make their draft selection, lakers can immediately trade the player’s draft rights.

Why trade it when you can get Jaime Jaquez

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[ROballer]

As soon as they make their draft selection, lakers can immediately trade the player’s draft rights.

Why trade it when you can get Jaime Jaquez

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Ain't no way you waste a 1st on Jaquez.

[stan francisco]

Ain't no way you waste a 1st on Jaquez.

Then, who is the good and attainable first round pick for us, in your opinion?

[ROballer]

Ain't no way you waste a 1st on Jaquez.

Then, who is the good and attainable first round pick for us, in your opinion?

Pick is gonna be 14-20. There are numerous other better players to be had there. Jaquez is not a first rounder considering his age.

It's a draft full of unknowns IMO. I think only 5 players are sure bets. Victor, Scoot, Thompson twins and Miller if he doesn't kill somebody by the draft.

Rest of the pack is very tight. You can probably pick 25th and he ends up better than #6 uf you do your homework and develop right.
I'd take Sensabaugh or Gradey Dick all day over Jaquez. You can get Jaquez if you really want him by buying a 2nd, like Christie.

[tamaraw08]

Ain't no way you waste a 1st on Jaquez.

Then, who is the good and attainable first round pick for us, in your opinion?

Pick is gonna be 14-20. There are numerous other better players to be had there. Jaquez is not a first rounder considering his age.

It's a draft full of unknowns IMO. I think only 5 players are sure bets. Victor, Scoot, Thompson twins and Miller if he doesn't kill somebody by the draft.

Rest of the pack is very tight. You can probably pick 25th and he ends up better than #6 uf you do your homework and develop right.
I'd take Sensabaugh or Gradey Dick all day over Jaquez. You can get Jaquez if you really want him by buying a 2nd, like Christie.

Dick is projected at 5th while Sensabaugh at 30th by nbadraft.net. I understand the concept of getting those diamond in the rough, high ceiling, possibly future superstars but like you said, it's really a crap shoot. I just noticed though that finding older/developed players who embraced their roles are also helpful. I love players like Kuz, Josh Hart, Caruso and lately Reaves. These guys don't commit a ton of dumb mistakes and have a better understanding of the game. You are right though, Jaquez would be available, I also like Tubelis of Arizona and I admit that don't know a lot of players outside of PAC 12

[stan francisco]

Then, who is the good and attainable first round pick for us, in your opinion?

Pick is gonna be 14-20. There are numerous other better players to be had there. Jaquez is not a first rounder considering his age.

It's a draft full of unknowns IMO. I think only 5 players are sure bets. Victor, Scoot, Thompson twins and Miller if he doesn't kill somebody by the draft.

Rest of the pack is very tight. You can probably pick 25th and he ends up better than #6 uf you do your homework and develop right.
I'd take Sensabaugh or Gradey Dick all day over Jaquez. You can get Jaquez if you really want him by buying a 2nd, like Christie.

Dick is projected at 5th while Sensabaugh at 30th by nbadraft.net. I understand the concept of getting those diamond in the rough, high ceiling, possibly future superstars but like you said, it's really a crap shoot. I just noticed though that finding older/developed players who embraced their roles are also helpful. I love players like Kuz, Josh Hart, Caruso and lately Reaves. These guys don't commit a ton of dumb mistakes and have a better understanding of the game. You are right though, Jaquez would be available, I also like Tubelis of Arizona and I admit that don't know a lot of players outside of PAC 12

I dig this situation. Rob has a history of drafting extremely well.

[ROballer]

Then, who is the good and attainable first round pick for us, in your opinion?

Pick is gonna be 14-20. There are numerous other better players to be had there. Jaquez is not a first rounder considering his age.

It's a draft full of unknowns IMO. I think only 5 players are sure bets. Victor, Scoot, Thompson twins and Miller if he doesn't kill somebody by the draft.

Rest of the pack is very tight. You can probably pick 25th and he ends up better than #6 uf you do your homework and develop right.
I'd take Sensabaugh or Gradey Dick all day over Jaquez. You can get Jaquez if you really want him by buying a 2nd, like Christie.

Dick is projected at 5th while Sensabaugh at 30th by nbadraft.net. I understand the concept of getting those diamond in the rough, high ceiling, possibly future superstars but like you said, it's really a crap shoot. I just noticed though that finding older/developed players who embraced their roles are also helpful. I love players like Kuz, Josh Hart, Caruso and lately Reaves. These guys don't commit a ton of dumb mistakes and have a better understanding of the game. You are right though, Jaquez would be available, I also like Tubelis of Arizona and I admit that don't know a lot of players outside of PAC 12

Everyone you mentioned was either undrafted or drafted late 1st.

Nobody is wasting a mid teen pick on a non freshman/sophomore at least, if they have a choice about it.

There are exceptions like Keegan Murray/Davion Mitchell but you have to have an illustrious college career and all world intangibles/skills to make it there as an older player.

Jaquez doesn't have either. He's a second rounder at best for any team in this draft.
The kind of guy you buy a pick to get if you feel he can have a role.

There's zero chance Rob reaches if we keep the pick. Zero. It's not even worth debating this.
There are simply too many guys with more upside and/or better now than him at our range.

Gradey Dick is not going 5th either. That's too high.

Both Dick and Sensabaugh are tall wings who shoot 41% from 3, while taking twice as many shots from there than Jaquez
..who is a career 32% shooter and he's 3 years older than both.


Senior, 22, can't shoot. The fact that anyone would want him at 10-14 is head scratching to me.

[tamaraw08]

Pick is gonna be 14-20. There are numerous other better players to be had there. Jaquez is not a first rounder considering his age.

It's a draft full of unknowns IMO. I think only 5 players are sure bets. Victor, Scoot, Thompson twins and Miller if he doesn't kill somebody by the draft.

Rest of the pack is very tight. You can probably pick 25th and he ends up better than #6 uf you do your homework and develop right.
I'd take Sensabaugh or Gradey Dick all day over Jaquez. You can get Jaquez if you really want him by buying a 2nd, like Christie.

Dick is projected at 5th while Sensabaugh at 30th by nbadraft.net. I understand the concept of getting those diamond in the rough, high ceiling, possibly future superstars but like you said, it's really a crap shoot. I just noticed though that finding older/developed players who embraced their roles are also helpful. I love players like Kuz, Josh Hart, Caruso and lately Reaves. These guys don't commit a ton of dumb mistakes and have a better understanding of the game. You are right though, Jaquez would be available, I also like Tubelis of Arizona and I admit that don't know a lot of players outside of PAC 12

Everyone you mentioned was either undrafted or drafted late 1st.

Nobody is wasting a mid teen pick on a non freshman/sophomore at least, if they have a choice about it.

There are exceptions like Keegan Murray/Davion Mitchell but you have to have an illustrious college career and all world intangibles/skills to make it there as an older player.

Jaquez doesn't have either. He's a second rounder at best for any team in this draft.
The kind of guy you buy a pick to get if you feel he can have a role.

There's zero chance Rob reaches if we keep the pick. Zero. It's not even worth debating this.
There are simply too many guys with more upside and/or better now than him at our range.

Gradey Dick is not going 5th either. That's too high.

Both Dick and Sensabaugh are tall wings who shoot 41% from 3, while taking twice as many shots from there than Jaquez
..who is a career 32% shooter and he's 3 years older than both.


Senior, 22, can't shoot. The fact that anyone would want him at 10-14 is head scratching to me.

Geez, I'm not sure if you saw the smiling emoji that I put after I suggested they should draft Jaquez in the first round, meaning I was just kidding.
When I said Jaquez would be "available", I meant he'll be available in the 2nd round. If you still don't like the Lakers to draft him, then I'm ok with it, their scouts have a great track record of finding those smart roles players so I hope they keep it up.
looking at 3pt% from prospects college is helpful but sometimes it can be misleading and I am NOT saying this will be the case but I remember the Lakers drafting Stanford's Anthony Brown who also shot 40% from 3, being a Cardinal and Lakers fan, I was hoping he'll be good enough but unfortunately he didn't panned out. I was also hoping that Swider can have that chance too but....

[ROballer]

Yeah. Good shooters from college sometimes don't translate. It's harder to get a shot off with all the elite athletes in the NBA, and the 3 line is longer.

But non shooters, especially 22 year old seniors won't turn out adequate over night either.
On the contrary. If you can't shoot at that age at the college level, odds are astronomically high you won't be able to do it at the NBA level either.


You just can't draft a guy who can't shoot in the teens if he's not an outstanding athlete, has terrific measurements, is a good defender or simply has great upside(18-19 year olds).

Jaquez has none of that.

It's a freshman heavy draft like it or not, every site that does mocks has around 20 freshmen selected in the 1st round.

[Dr Aki]

Personally, I'd use the pick on a usable player for depth.

We're definitely losing either Schroder or Troy Brown Jr because we can't pay them market price.

Hell, if Sacramento were willing, I'd trade the FRP for the draft rights to Sasha Vezenkov AND use the MLE/BAE money on him.

[yitur]

I would draft Kris Murray or Adem Bona with that pick. But I don't think Lakers will keep it.

[ROballer]

It's a cheap alternative to not overspend on FA's who don't actually thread the needle.

A rookie in that range doesn't have a huge salary and is locked on a 4 year deal.

Why wouldn't they keep the pick?

Jalen Williams is killing it all year long and absolutely murdered us the last time we played. Was picked 12th.

Jalen Duren 13th
Ochai Agbaji 14th
Mark Williams 15th
AJ Griffin 16th
Tari Eason 17th

This is our range and it's just the 2022 draft. All of these guys have been good and seen a decent chunk of minutes from Day One.

You can find a contributor if you do your homework, who does the same work or better than a FA you'll need to spend 10-15 mil year on.
At a fraction of the price.

[TylersLakers]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong regarding my understanding of the Lakers pick situation

Assuming I got it right, the Lakers will have the lesser of the Pelican/LAL pick in this year's 2023 draft. Considering the Pels are only 1 game ahead of the Lakers as of right now, it's very likely that the Lakers will end up with a 1st rounder somewhere in the 14-20 range this year.

My questions;

1. Does this pick become tradable on draft night if the Lakers agree to a deal before they make the pick?
2. If so, could the Lakers combine this pick with Beasley (if they pick up his team option), and/or Vanderbilt who has a non- guaranteed contract for next year? In a S&T maybe?
3. If the Lakers decide to keep the pick, is there any particular prospect you would want to see LAL draft?


I know things are looking pretty bleak right now, but for the majority of this season we considered this pick something that was lost in the AD trade. But considering the standings, and how much of a crapshoot the draft is in the 14-20 range, this pick could still be a way of adding quality talent.

Curious to see what everyone else is thinking. It's been a long time since we've actually had a first round pick in a draft. Last I remember it was the late pick that was sent for Schroder, which no one expected us to keep.

1) Yes, it's tradeable. However it'll be one of those scenarios where the deal is leaked and it doesn't become official until after the moratorium ends on July 5th.

2) Yes, they can combine it with Beasley or Vanderbilt if they accept their options and keep them as members of the Lakers.

3) I don't know enough about the class this year. But I'd look to piece it with someone like Bamba and get an upgrade. Dorian Finney Smith would be someone I'd target.

Bamba, Christie, 2023 1st for DFS.