DanishLakerFan wrote:danfantastk32 wrote:DanishLakerFan wrote:
This is hilarious. Complete troll post. LoL
It is? Why? Calling Davis and Lebron "overrated" has a sting to it...I get it. I think they def are overrated a little around here...but not around the rest of the world....wanna know why? Cause Vegas has us +3000 - +3500 - +4000 to win a title. We're 10th on their list.
Vegas!! You know...guys who get paid a TON of money to put all feelings aside, and purely crunch the numbers. And entire empire has been built on these guys not screwing around. They have us 10th.
Cause AD is up and down....and has injuries. And Lebron, great as he was...is now 40 (will be for the season). It's the truth! That's not me...that's serious professionals telling you the numbers. It's why I wanna break it up before its too late......this team doesn't have it! We're not some roll-player or two away. We need a major difference maker......and I'm not sure even LaVine or Beal have it. Yes...Lebron and AD are still quite the duo....but they have little to nothing around them...and at one time it didn't matter, but it sure does now.
We've been a middle of the pack team for 4 years....while Lebron aged out of that ability to go carry teams. He just can't do it anymore. Don't take my word for it.....Vegas will tell you. +3500 is about our average odds....in other words: It'll be a cold day in hell when they win.
Having a "sting to it" with regards to people calling AD and Lebron overrated would suggest that i respect their opinion. I dont.
Suggesting Herro, Beal, LaVine or the answer to, well, anything at all tells me that it's either a troll post or a post from someone who is talking out of their rear.
I believe in chemistry. I believe that any basketball team can prosper when the pieces on that team fit well together. I also believe that mostly all NBA players are talented enough to contribute in the right role. For example, I used to say with great frequency that Lou Williams could've easily been a franchise scorer averaging 30 points a game if Williams had been lucky enough to play alongside a tall, defensive PG like Shaun Livingston to relieve him of point guard duties and having to guard two-guards.
Most people laughed in my face at the idea of Williams, a career 6th man, starting and averaging 30 a game as the franchise player. My thoughts were preposterous to most, but to me, it was clear as day. Lou Williams, in his prime, was a stone scorer who would score nearly 20 points a game in only 24 minutes. Was he a winning basketball player? Probably not, no, but the same can be said of one Kyrie Irving.
Before James came back to Cleveland, Irving was a loser. Those Cleveland teams before James commandeered the offense, were terrible with Irving running point, but Irving's game, his redeemable qualities, were palatable. If you could see them, you could see that, if nothing else, Irving could score, and pairing him next to a super-efficient and athletic point-forward who could relieve Irving of his decision-making/facilitating responsibilities was a match made in heaven.
Simply put, Irving next to James, like Mo Williams before him, had great potential to have great chemistry. In a vacuum, you could say Irving was a loser and an empty stats player, but in the right role, paired with the right guys around him, he had the potential to hit legendary shots down the stretch of big games. In a vacuum, Lou Williams was just a sixth man. He couldn't average thirty and lead his team to the playoffs no matter who he plays with, but in right role, surrounded by the right players, I adamantly believe he could've. We'll never know though.
Devin Booker is another one. He couldn't win a game to save his life before he played alongside his perfect compliment (Chris Paul).
Before Paul, Booker was maligned as just a scorer, and similar to Irving, almost overnight when paired with the right players around him, he instantly became a "winner".
I have no doubt that Beal, Ingram, LaVine, Simons, and to a lesser degree Herro or Clarkson would fill a huge void for this team as scorers/shooters and athletic upgrades to Russell and Reaves. On many other teams, all of these aforementioned guys might be best served as off the bench, scoring sixth men, but for this team they'd be tasked with the responsibility of averaging 24 a game, shooting 38% from deep, and playing passable defense. They'd be tasked with playing the "Irving-role", the guy next to James who is athletically and mentally capable of hitting big shots down the stretch of games when James clams up and can't.
These players could never be "answers" to you, but to me that's because you're simply not asking the proper questions.
- Value of players might go down, but also at same time could go up depending how they go.