Future starting SF for Lakers

LakersSoul · Post #1 » by **LakersSoul** » Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:58 pm

Who do you guys think will win the SF role for the Lakers by playoff time?

1. Rui: Gifted scorer/shooter with some post up moves and bulk but struggles on defense.

2. Vando: Energizer bunny and trouble on D. But lacking spot up shooting and corner 3 shot. Can he learn to shoot to be respectable?

3. Knecht: Drafted after K4 fell onto the Lakers laps. Was one of the top college players with killer shot, length and athleticism. Oddly, K4 is athletic on O but lacks quickness and savvy on defense.

LakersSoul · Post #2 » by **LakersSoul** » Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:00 pm

Threw in Max and an option for other, as a trade for dependable 3&D is a true possibility like CamJohnson.

What do you think?

SlimShady83 · Post #3 » by **SlimShady83** » Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:55 am

Knecht come playoff time Vando, need to keep Vando healthy

Godfather13 · Post #4 » by **Godfather13** » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:59 pm

LakersSoul wrote:Who do you guys think will win the SF role for the Lakers by playoff time?

1. Rui: Gifted scorer/shooter with some post up moves and bulk but struggles on defense.

2. Vando: Energizer bunny and trouble on D. But lacking spot up shooting and corner 3 shot. Can he learn to shoot to be respectable?

3. Knecht: Drafted after K4 fell onto the Lakers laps. Was one of the top college players with killer shot, length and athleticism. Oddly, K4 is athletic on O but lacks quickness and savvy on defense.

Heart says Knecht, but mind says Rui, cos it might be too early for Knecht to man up defensively at the 3 spot in his first year.

According to some draft guys, Knecht may not be a top 3 prospect from a potential POV, but he should be in the running for the top 3 ROY race, based on how NBA ready his offensive game is already. Lord know we can use that.

scoobs07 · Post #5 » by **scoobs07** » Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:40 pm

I think as long as Reaves and Dlo are in the backcourt, either Vando or Christie should be starting at small forward. If Christie ends up working his way to starting shooting guard or small forward, then the Lakers would need to replace Dlo's high volume and accurate shooting. Max is an excellent shooter, but I don't think he is as aggressive and feared of a shooter as Dlo. Knecht is already a feared shooter around the league imo, and he is not shy about shooting the ball. So, i think both Max and Knecht could eventually find their way into the starting unit via Dlo being either traded or benched. But for now, I'm going to say Vando.

LakersSoul · Post #6 » by **LakersSoul** » Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:03 pm

scoobs07 wrote:I think as long as Reaves and Dlo are in the backcourt, either Vando or Christie should be starting at small forward. If Christie ends up working his way to starting shooting guard or small forward, then the Lakers would need to replace Dlo's high volume and accurate shooting. Max is an excellent shooter, but I don't think he is as aggressive and feared of a shooter as Dlo. Knecht is already a feared shooter around the league imo, and he is not shy about shooting the ball. So, i think both Max and Knecht could eventually find their way into the starting unit via Dlo being either traded or benched. But for now, I'm going to say Vando.

Yeah, Dlo’s poor defense and sporadic/immature point play will get him siting out 4th Q during playoffs.

Expect to have at worst neutral defenders with plus shooting to play alongside Bron/AD.

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Max
Knecht
Bron
AD

danfantastk32 · Post #7 » by **danfantastk32** » Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:52 pm

So no Lebron...although he's listed as a SF?

Also...considering how we eeked in last year...have got older, and made essentially no roster changes, isn't it a bit presumptuous to pencil us in, and start making plans?

LakersSoul · Post #8 » by **LakersSoul** » Mon Aug 26, 2024 3:19 am

danfantastk32 wrote:So no Lebron...although he's listed as a SF?

Also...considering how we eeked in last year...have got older, and made essentially no roster changes, isn't it a bit presumptuous to pencil us in, and start making plans?

Bron is older and gonna have a hard time guarding quicker wings. He could switch on them but he is now more of a PF esp with AD playing center.

As for playoff time, its “by playoff time” you know, regular season end. As for not making the playoffs, FanOff.

danfantastk32 · Post #9 » by **danfantastk32** » Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:13 am

LakersSoul wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:So no Lebron...although he's listed as a SF?

Also...considering how we eeked in last year...have got older, and made essentially no roster changes, isn't it a bit presumptuous to pencil us in, and start making plans?

Bron is older and gonna have a hard time guarding quicker wings. He could switch on them but he is now more of a PF esp with AD playing center.

As for playoff time, its “by playoff time” you know, regular season end. As for not making the playoffs, FanOff.

Well...you want AD to play center. AD doesn't. And yes, Bron is older...so guarding guys bigger than him banging down low prob isn't a great idea. And as for not making the playoffs....say what you want, but we got almost no help this offseason. A rookie that is just that...a rookie. And a head coach who's more than a rookie. He's a high-school rookie coach. I'm not questioning our chances because I enjoy being negative.....but because the FO has done absolutely nothing to improve our chances. Maybe you'll be upset with the Lakers come march/apr....but really, the mistakes are being made now.

We're not gonna make the playoffs next year because I can "FanOff".....but because we improved. Something we haven't done. So I do think it's interesting that you've chosen to ignore the path we have to walk....and set your eyes on what kinda champagne we're gonna drink at the podium.

DanishLakerFan · Post #10 » by **DanishLakerFan** » Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:36 am

For now i think it has to be Vando, but i would prefer if we added someone who isn't as much of a negative offensively.
E.g. Dorian Finney-Smith.

Post #11 » by **Kilroy** » Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:02 pm

The lineup has to cover defensively for LeBron, so you can’t just focus on scoring… Vando at least used to be a solid man defender, when he was healthy…. I’d lean that way right now but who knows what will happen with JJ and some time…

LakersSoul · Post #12 » by **LakersSoul** » Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:57 pm

Kilroy wrote:The lineup has to cover defensively for LeBron, so you can’t just focus on scoring… Vando at least used to be a solid man defender, when he was healthy…. I’d lean that way right now but who knows what will happen with JJ and some time…

Yeah, if Vando shoots at a decent clip , say 36%, then the defense will have to respect him.

Vando’s energy and D is top notch so hope the practices have helped, esp at corner 3.

SlimShady83 · Post #13 » by **SlimShady83** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:30 am

I really want them to test Knecht straight off the bat and enter him In the line up, I would even forgive JJ If we went like 2-10 first 10 games. Need to test this kid to see If he really Is NBA ready.

SlimShady83 · Post #14 » by **SlimShady83** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:31 am

Kilroy wrote:The lineup has to cover defensively for LeBron, so you can’t just focus on scoring… Vando at least used to be a solid man defender, when he was healthy…. I’d lean that way right now but who knows what will happen with JJ and some time…

This Is true, but we also need to keep Vando healthy. see how Knecht goes first half the season or something, then you can mix It up a bit.

LakersSoul · Post #15 » by **LakersSoul** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:27 am

SlimShady83 wrote:I really want them to test Knecht straight off the bat and enter him In the line up, I would even forgive JJ If we went like 2-10 first 10 games. Need to test this kid to see If he really Is NBA ready.

Yeah, Ham’s lack of dev youth was a big issue. Hopefully JJ understands we need to dev guys like Knecht and max christie.

Then play his top rotation to close out games.

DanishLakerFan · Post #16 » by **DanishLakerFan** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:57 am

LakersSoul wrote:
Kilroy wrote:The lineup has to cover defensively for LeBron, so you can’t just focus on scoring… Vando at least used to be a solid man defender, when he was healthy…. I’d lean that way right now but who knows what will happen with JJ and some time…

Yeah, if Vando shoots at a decent clip , say 36%, then the defense will have to respect him.

Vando’s energy and D is top notch so hope the practices have helped, esp at corner 3.

Last year Vando shot 35% from the corners, but only attempted about 1 corner 3 per game.

SlimShady83 · Post #17 » by **SlimShady83** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:12 pm

I've only seen highlights of Knecht on youtube, how is Knecht's Defense?

TylersLakers · Post #18 » by **TylersLakers** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:07 pm

By the playoffs? I'm not sure about that. Who should start to open the season? Vando.

TylersLakers · Post #19 » by **TylersLakers** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:07 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:I've only seen highlights of Knecht on youtube, how is Knecht's Defense?

It was pretty bad in summer league.

Godfather13 · Post #20 » by **Godfather13** » Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:52 pm

TylersLakers wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:I've only seen highlights of Knecht on youtube, how is Knecht's Defense?

It was pretty bad in summer league.

As is the case for 99% of the rookies. Knecht has to be a bench 2/3 till he learns the basics, which won't be for 1-2 years.

We should be looking to exploit his offense in spurts, while being patient with his defense coming along.