RealGM

well, he should be pretty motivated this year at least...

I’d trade him for Kessler and Cody Will.

No brainer move for him. He was vastly underpaid on this current contract as well.

22 mil per is chump change money in today's NBA.
That's not even top 80 in salaries. A ton of lesser players than him make the same or more.

He's guaranteed the bag next season because it's a clean slate year for a lot of teams. Lots of teams with cap space(including us). Someone will strike out on the top tier FA's and offer him 150 at least.

How do you build a team anymore without hitting the second apron with these salaries .

Trade him now IMO, I love Reaves, but it's time to move on.

Reaves for Kessler in some sort of package deal.
Reaves for WCJ? Then sign Day'Ron Sharpe in FA??

Trading him this offseason would be ideal IMO.

leper-con wrote:How do you build a team anymore without hitting the second apron with these salaries .

I kind of like this cba it's making it hard for everyone, not just the small market teams.

TyCobb wrote:I’d trade him for Kessler and Cody Will.

What ever it takes to get Kessler IMO

only the uncertainty would get me to trade him... our cap issue is a 42 year old. You can't keep letting Caruso's and Reeves go.

Danny Darko wrote:only the uncertainty would get me to trade him... our cap issue is a 42 year old. You can't keep letting Caruso's and Reeves go.

Pelinka is 55 years old

leper-con wrote:How do you build a team anymore without hitting the second apron with these salaries .

Well, since you asked.....the BEST way, is to get lot's of picks, and bring in young talent...They are cheap, and the next contract is usually a little cheaper as well.

This has it's risks, of course. Your paying $50-55mil for proven talent. The risk is gone (for the most part) but your payin for it.

Get young players....build. Hopefully you have one or two shine through, and you build around them. If your willing to move off of a player or two with a bright future, and keep the picks rolling, and your willing to be a little ruthless and move guys who want too much...you can continue to have the 2-3 players that are your 'core' while surrounding them with cheaper young guys, and vets willing to come and take less.

1) Your 'stars' need to be good. Legit. You gotta be honest with that. Devin Booker is a great player. And they've surrounded him with plenty of talent. Time for honesty. Embiid, Harden, Durant....the list goes on and on. They aren't getting you there. Move them and get picks, and try again.

2) Your gonna lose some.....'pigs get fat, hog's get slaughtered' ......move a player or two early. You dont get to greedily come out the huge winner in each trade. But keep a nice farm system of picks....keep your core, and don't be afraid to move one of those 'core' guys, if a younger player starts to show equal/more promise.

3) don't make desperation moves. Keep your options. Picks can be used for trades...but make sure it's good. If it's not...don't do it just because your fans tell you to. Think 4-5 years down the line, not trying to "salvage this season"....if your in that mindset...the season's already lost. Let it go.

4) Lastly....remember you can go over these caps resigning your current players. So be patient! Get the right team. You'll be able to ride them for a while...and bring in young guys around them.

Giving Reeves anywhere near $150 mil is a complete violation. And it's a good opportunity to think future. Are teams willing to pay that $$ for him? I rather doubt it, but maybe there are. Good....move him. That's right...move him now, get something for him. Dont worry about next year. Anyone even remotely honest with themselves knows we ain't doin squat next year. So F*k it....get something for Reeves.

TyCobb wrote:I’d trade him for Kessler and Cody Will.

Do it, Rob.

Keeping him as our secondary floor general for next season would be great, too, but then we should’ve drafted Renaud.

I understand Austin but he’ll have to expect to get perhaps get traded now. And whomever he plays for can expect him to play his ass off this year.

Maybe we’ll even see some $247M defense from him, and some $247M core strength?

What about Jalen Duren?

Danny Darko wrote:only the uncertainty would get me to trade him... our cap issue is a 42 year old. You can't keep letting Caruso's and Reeves go.

This! Except Caruso and Reeves aren't in the same category for me. One's a part time single use player and the other is a legit 3rd option.

Having Bron here will necessitate moves like letting younger players go because of his salary.

The team won't truly contend again until Bron is the owner of the new Vegas team. He's not going to get better, or play longer or be as effective but he's going to cost what 2-3 quality role players would. The extension and option to him was foolish.

Pay Austin next year. Let go of Bron and Bronnie. Lots of cap space and roster spots after they are gone.

-Spyda- wrote:What about Jalen Duren?

Probably unattainable unless the Lakers give up a great deal.

Duran is a weapon for the Pistons. They better make him more of a focal point on offense and let him score.

TyCobb wrote:I’d trade him for Kessler and Cody Will.

This would need a third team, but the value is probably fine in a vacuum. We just have no use for Reaves - he is way older than most of our core players, about to get paid, and fits an archetype we just don't value (considering we traded almost all our combo-guards).

Reaves actually needs to be careful. The market for this type of player he is, just took a major beating, Versatile offensive players who aren’t legit #1/2 options and negatives on D, who often get targeted. We’re watching the effects of the 2nd Apron era where teams are way more wary of overpaying and doing everything it takes to stay away from the 2nd apron. Austin is a great player, can get you offense on good efficiency but due to his defensive liability, if he gets paid big money it really reduces a teams overall defensive ability. The age of CJ McCollums, Tyler Herros, Lauri Markkenens, etc getting max deals are over. If you wanna get max money you better also bring it on defense and #3 better be cheap if his defense is lackluster. Teams would be wise to lockup their #1/2 options (whether via expensive max deals of rookie scale deals) before deciding to splurge on an expensive #3.

Austin is fantastic, but he's likely getting overpaid on his next deal and by adding Marcus Smart they address a major defensive need in the backcourt and they also get enough secondary playmaking alongside Luka and Lebron, which makes a potential Austin-trade less damaging.