Could Marion for Odom talks heat up again ?
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:44 am
Alright I know your saying here we go again but check it out anyway.
On the year check out the head to head numbers
Marion 15.8 ppg 10reb 2ast 51.5 fg % 31.7 3pt % 67 ft % 2stl 1.7 blks
Odom 14.1 ppg 8.9reb 2.3 ast 48.8 fg% 26.4 3pt % 67ft %
the Lakers would have too add Chris Mihm and his contract but it works then financially.
The Advs and Disadvs for Suns.... Advs they get a more true powerforward in Odom who is 3 inches taller and whose wingspan is better suited for guarding bigger post guys a la Dirk, Duncan, David West which frees up Amare putting less pressure. His ball handling skills would also work in that system--being able to push it up him self would also help the club when Nash is sitting. His assists numbers would go way up to at l least 4 to 5 a game.
Disadv for Suns....Odom not as good as finsher at hoop as Marion but still if Nash is passing he could get easier looks which would defiently make up for the FG % slight difference.
Over all I think Odom would help against the teams they have to beat Dallas, Spurs, New Orleans and the LAkers: and they also get a decent big in Mihm who could help Amare out w/ the Centre load having a true 7-0 footer.
A lineup of Nash, bell, Amare, odom, hill /W barbosa, banks, Mihm, Skinner, Diaw be nice.
On the Lakers side of Advs and Disadv.
Advs for Marion being a laker is they could move him to his true SF positon giving them a better finisher with his cutting to the hoop from Kobe and Fish while helping the defense at the three w/ his stls and blks off the ball.
Disadv... outside shooting wouldn't improve be the same as Lamars' and they would have to reley on Turiaf and Brown at PF or put Walton or Marion their some games. I like Turiaf though his cutting to the hoop from Kobe passes some games are great and his outside shot improved.
Overall--It helps both teams but matching up in same conference deters trades sometimes. Marion was unhappy w/ out touches earlier in the yrs but he'd get lots here. I just like the idea of a good defender at the three and Ronnie getting 30 min a game.
Another great thing w/ this trade is Kwame's contract is still tradeable for a Pf and they get to keep both Farmar and J Crittenton. Thats' a win win all around. Dont get me wrong Odom's D in post is not great but it's better than Marions when he has to guard the other teams big guys. The three inches and long arms of Lamars would make a difference but Marion would also make a diff in LA land.
Fish, Farmar, Sahsa
Kobe, Critt
Bynum Kwame
Turiaf, Walton
Marion, ARiza, Vlad
key is they would have a chance to strength team further w/ Kwame's contract and one of Farmar or critt or they could stand pat--a lot of options are created w/ such a move......I just think Suns are pannicing a little right now New Orleans, Spurs, Dallas and Lakers have showed them up inside recently and moving Marion--for Odom would give them simialar offensive number but add more size and yet more ball handling for them....I think it's doable.....
On the year check out the head to head numbers
Marion 15.8 ppg 10reb 2ast 51.5 fg % 31.7 3pt % 67 ft % 2stl 1.7 blks
Odom 14.1 ppg 8.9reb 2.3 ast 48.8 fg% 26.4 3pt % 67ft %
the Lakers would have too add Chris Mihm and his contract but it works then financially.
The Advs and Disadvs for Suns.... Advs they get a more true powerforward in Odom who is 3 inches taller and whose wingspan is better suited for guarding bigger post guys a la Dirk, Duncan, David West which frees up Amare putting less pressure. His ball handling skills would also work in that system--being able to push it up him self would also help the club when Nash is sitting. His assists numbers would go way up to at l least 4 to 5 a game.
Disadv for Suns....Odom not as good as finsher at hoop as Marion but still if Nash is passing he could get easier looks which would defiently make up for the FG % slight difference.
Over all I think Odom would help against the teams they have to beat Dallas, Spurs, New Orleans and the LAkers: and they also get a decent big in Mihm who could help Amare out w/ the Centre load having a true 7-0 footer.
A lineup of Nash, bell, Amare, odom, hill /W barbosa, banks, Mihm, Skinner, Diaw be nice.
On the Lakers side of Advs and Disadv.
Advs for Marion being a laker is they could move him to his true SF positon giving them a better finisher with his cutting to the hoop from Kobe and Fish while helping the defense at the three w/ his stls and blks off the ball.
Disadv... outside shooting wouldn't improve be the same as Lamars' and they would have to reley on Turiaf and Brown at PF or put Walton or Marion their some games. I like Turiaf though his cutting to the hoop from Kobe passes some games are great and his outside shot improved.
Overall--It helps both teams but matching up in same conference deters trades sometimes. Marion was unhappy w/ out touches earlier in the yrs but he'd get lots here. I just like the idea of a good defender at the three and Ronnie getting 30 min a game.
Another great thing w/ this trade is Kwame's contract is still tradeable for a Pf and they get to keep both Farmar and J Crittenton. Thats' a win win all around. Dont get me wrong Odom's D in post is not great but it's better than Marions when he has to guard the other teams big guys. The three inches and long arms of Lamars would make a difference but Marion would also make a diff in LA land.
Fish, Farmar, Sahsa
Kobe, Critt
Bynum Kwame
Turiaf, Walton
Marion, ARiza, Vlad
key is they would have a chance to strength team further w/ Kwame's contract and one of Farmar or critt or they could stand pat--a lot of options are created w/ such a move......I just think Suns are pannicing a little right now New Orleans, Spurs, Dallas and Lakers have showed them up inside recently and moving Marion--for Odom would give them simialar offensive number but add more size and yet more ball handling for them....I think it's doable.....