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Is Bynum or Bryant more valuable to the Lakers?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:26 pm
by pooteeweet
Watching Bynum squirm on the ground I came to a realization; I'd almost rather play a handful of games without Kobe than without Bynum, especially going into a stretch of the season where points in the paint and interior defense are going to be at a premium. I went back and forth mentally with myself over who had become more valuable to this team. Maybe I'm asking a different question than who is the MVP of the Lakers. I'm asking; who do the Lakers need more to win, Bynum or Bryant?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:35 pm
by UThinkUrSoGood
Kobe Bryant.
Bryant is a proven winner and champion. He's a veteran all-star and can step it up against the elite teams. His game's against Boston this year is an excption, however Andrew Bynum totally disappeared in both those games.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:38 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
Kobe is the engine, Drew is the turbo charge.

without Kobe, Drew gets tripple teamed all night, we lose.

without Drew, Kobe gets tripple teamed, we have a chance to win.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:41 pm
by J Rob
Its pretty simple regarding their value:

The Lakers need Bynum in order to be great.

But, they need Kobe in order to win.

Without Kobe there's no foundation. Bynum simply takes us to the next level.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:43 pm
by Gus McCrae
I was going to ask this same question but didn't want to get blasted or be overexcited about Bynum. That being said, I would honestly say I think we're so thin at the C; PF that Bynum is more valuable to us right now. OUr team has SG's, PG's and SF's pretty deep. But now we're relying on Kwame and Turiaf? That's a glaring weakness in our game.

Oh I'm sorry...Kobe for MVP.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:54 pm
by 0HeadAche0
Big men win you Championships. Been that way for the last decade. Atm I say Bryant is the most important but in 12 months time and Bynum is still producing these kind of performances and numbers then I will say him.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:03 pm
by Dexmor
Kobe but it is alot closer then people think.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:11 pm
by Gerald3Wallace
i dont know but i think more teams are interested in bynum than they are in kobe...who wouldnt be interested in kobe? but more teams would go after bynum than they would kobe

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:27 pm
by Dexmor
Kobe is untradable? Bynum is almost untradeable.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:40 pm
by Triangle Theory
See, this is tough. I'd still have to say Bryant now, becuase he is, Kobe. Yet at the same time, Bynum's time to improve is just as valuable to our team as kobe himself, which makes the timing of this injury even more heartbreaking.

Kobe is the ship
bynum is our anchor.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:42 pm
by milesfides
Agree with Snaq and J-Rob.

Kobe can carry a pack of D-league, AARP, euro-rejects into the playoffs by himself. He can average 35+ points a game and deadlift our team. He already has.

But Bynum is the yang to Kobe's yin. He's the jelly to Kobe's peanut butter for a championship sandwich. He's the jab that sets up Kobe's 4th quarter knockout punch.

Of course most teams would take Bynum over Kobe right now. That has to do with age and contract. I would imagine most teams would take Bynum over Duncan. There's a possibility that after Bynum's performance, he is THE most valuable commodity in the league.

But if you wanted to win a championship right now, the two players who will get it done are Kobe and Duncan. They've proven it over the last 10 years. Both have had significant help, but they have proven that they have been the best perimeter and post players in the league.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:43 pm
by TommyTheCat
snaquille oatmeal wrote:Kobe is the engine, Drew is the turbo charge.

without Kobe, Drew gets tripple teamed all night, we lose.

without Drew, Kobe gets tripple teamed, we have a chance to win.


+1

lakers need both to contend

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:47 pm
by Triangle Theory
there you go snaq. Turbo to the engine.

And here i was trying to compare them to a ship and anchor. :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:50 pm
by magic1fan
It's not even close. Kobe is the foundation and most needed on this team. Bynum is getting so many easy looks because kobe demands double and triple teams. Bynum is doing great,and I hope he continues to improve,but let's not go overboard. The guy is only getting 12&10. I mean our coach would rather have kwame starting over bynum. Let bynum play great for a few years before we even think that he is more important than kobe.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:37 pm
by Griever24
magic1fan wrote:It's not even close. Kobe is the foundation and most needed on this team. Bynum is getting so many easy looks because kobe demands double and triple teams. Bynum is doing great,and I hope he continues to improve,but let's not go overboard. The guy is only getting 12&10. I mean our coach would rather have kwame starting over bynum. Let bynum play great for a few years before we even think that he is more important than kobe.


Yup plus Kobe was able to take us to the playoffs these past 2 years kinda without Bynum this year his progression just put us over the top .. love Bynum but this team is still Kobe's

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:43 pm
by AWalkerREMIX
Bynum is no where close to being as important as Kobe is. Bynum's whole game revolves around the attention Kobe draws from the defense.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:06 pm
by hermes
kobe is the most important part to the team
he's the superstar

hey i'm a RealGM now, is there cake?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:13 pm
by Patterns
hermes wrote:kobe is the most important part to the team
he's the superstar

hey i'm a RealGM now, is there cake?

Yea but Kwame dropped it. :nod:

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:22 pm
by realfung
Kobe of course...

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:33 pm
by 8'sReverse
There is not a gray answer to this black and white question. No maybe's, no 50/50's, and no if, and, or buts... it's Kobe, period.