OT - Martin Luther King, Jr. Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:36 pm
by milesfides
Although the connection with basketball is obvious, I'd thought it would be appropriate to create an OT MLK Jr. Thread for any thoughts on this holiday. Perhaps one of the few times when OT could mean both on-topic and off-topic.
An article of The New York Times cautioned, "Historians Fear MLK's Legacy Being Lost."
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-M ... uther+king
''He was considered by many to be a pariah.'' -Harvard Sitkoff
''Following King meant following the unpopular road, not the popular one.'' -Melissa Harris-Lacewell
And it's true, like most national heroes and figures, we're not aware of some of the difficult things MLK Jr. said. Most recognize the "I have a Dream" speech, but MLK Jr. posed even bigger challenges.
From one of his other speeches:
"I
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:37 pm
by milesfides
I don't know exactly why, but I love that picture.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:27 pm
by Lakers_1990
Martin Luther King Jr. truly defined courage, and strength, and what it means to be a real man. I don't think he was looking to do great things, he was more importantly, looking to do the right thing.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:12 pm
by hermes
thank you for doing the right thing and uniting the country MLK
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:49 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
"early morning April 4th
a shot rings out in a Memphis sky
free at last, they took your life,
but they could not take your pride
in the name of love, what more in the name of love"
-Bono
Re: OT - Martin Luther King, Jr. Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:25 pm
by Craig McDermott
milesfides wrote:
No matter what he does, you see God
Re: OT - Martin Luther King, Jr. Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:26 pm
by Hoops Pimp
Craig McDermott wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I don't know if MLK took Arab ne'er-do-wells into consideration when he said this. I must admit that I am prone to prejudging an individual merely because he's cutting someone's head off in a surgical manner.
The great MLK is speaking from a faith driven spiritual perspective and not a physical one. He is speaking to look beyond the physical that you see with your eyes and look to the goodness that God has instilled inside of everyone. Whether or not they choose to let that side show it is not my job to judge but to see the goodness because no matter what shows on the outside or what anyone may do, it is there. CHURCH!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:40 pm
by 8'sReverse
Just goes to show you how far this country has come in ways and not so much in others. But, without a doubt, if MLK didn't do the things he did, the USA would be so much darker. Some don't realize that these Civil Rights movements happened not to long ago.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:00 pm
by TonyMontana
milesfides wrote:I don't know exactly why, but I love that picture.
Good thread miles .
As far as the picture , I agree with you Mang.
It a positive image , everyone is full of joy and happiness include D.L.K .
Like they have achieved a goal or a battle .
You rarely see images of D.L.K that shows him smiling since he went through so much pain , suffering , trials and tribulations in his quest to seek what he died for and at the end what he achieved and that was civial , human-rights and racial equality .
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:34 pm
by Slava
People like Martin Luther King Jr, Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi have made this world a better place for us to live in. They fought oppression and encouraged the suppressed races to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. They won over their enemy with peace and truth rather than use forceful tactics which makes their accomplishments all the more wonderful.
Feels great to remember this wonderful human being.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:41 pm
by TonyMontana
j-far wrote:People like Martin Luther King Jr, Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi have made this world a better place for us to live in. They fought oppression and encouraged the suppressed races to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. They won over their enemy with peace and truth rather than use forceful tactics which makes their accomplishments all the more wonderful.
Feels great to remember this wonderful human being.
I also think BoB Marley should be mentioned as well since he has fought for the same rights through his music and his music still lives within us today .
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:43 pm
by Slava
Good call man. Marley is a great role model too.
Re: OT - Martin Luther King, Jr. Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:05 am
by Craig McDermott
Hoops Pimp wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
The great MLK is speaking from a faith driven spiritual perspective and not a physical one. He is speaking to look beyond the physical that you see with your eyes and look to the goodness that God has instilled inside of everyone. Whether or not they choose to let that side show it is not my job to judge but to see the goodness because no matter what shows on the outside or what anyone may do, it is there. CHURCH!!!
I shall seek to understand the goodness of the next Muslim extremist I see cutting off heads or blowing up schools.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:06 am
by Craig McDermott
TonyMontana wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I also think BoB Marley should be mentioned as well since he has fought for the same rights through his music and his music still lives within us today .
& Lennon.
Re: OT - Martin Luther King, Jr. Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:38 am
by Hoops Pimp
Craig McDermott wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I shall seek to understand the goodness of the next Muslim extremist I see cutting off heads or blowing up schools.
thats the point. if you only look at the action you won't see it. that is exactly what Dr. King Jr. was talking about. now think about what you said, Muslim extremest. They have love for their God. Although it is mislead it is still there. If you could manage to turn that love in a positive direction you would have what would be considered the most loving individuals in the world. Unfortunately that is not reality but that is the "Dream". That is the hope and that is what we as a people need to strive for. That is what Dr. King strived for. He did not look at people for what they were, but whom they could become if they had a change of heart and an enlightened outlook about their place in this world.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:39 am
by milesfides
I agree. MLK had every right to despise the country that enslaved Africans. But he saw it as his country. He had every right to despite the white Americans who oppressed him. But he saw them as his countrymen. It blows my mind. What's even more amazing is that it was effective.
He saw the good in his enemies, and the social progress that we've seen since then is a direct result of that incredible feat.
The skeptic in me believes that violence is necessary in this world.
But the example set by MLK, as seen in Gandhi before him, and Christ before him, shows that the most powerful way to defeat your enemy is to see him as your brother.
Sometimes, though, I feel your brother needs to get punched in the face.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:48 am
by TonyMontana
milesfides wrote:
But the example set by MLK, as seen in Gandhi before him, and Christ before him, shows that the most powerful way to defeat your enemy is to see him as your brother.
Sometimes, though, I feel your brother needs to get punched in the face.
MILES ........PROPS MANG ...............
At times I have left my heart , friendship , money , everything I could have done for some of my SO CALLED BORTHERS , and honestly they're the ones who screwed me worst than my enemies .
Yet even now I still refuse to turn my back on someone that needs my help even after the have Fd me over .
WHY I dont know .