*The Kwame Watch* - since Bynum Injury

[jimmywolfrey]

Kwame Brown Stats since Andrew Bynum Injury *7 games*

MPG = 27.6

FGM - FGA per game = 3.14 - 5.71
FG% = 55%

FTM - FTA per game = 1.86 - 4.14
FT% = 45%

PPG = 8.14

oRPG = 2.0
dRPG = 5.9
RPG = 7.9

APG = 1.14
SPG = 0.57
BPG = 0.71

TPG = 2.0
FPG = 3.6


Per 48 Minutes

FGM - FGA per game = 5.5 - 9.9
FG% = 55%

FTM - FTA per game = 3.2 - 7.2
FT% = 45%

PPG = 14.2

oRPG = 3.5
dRPG = 10.2
RPG = 13.7

APG = 2.0
SPG = 1.0
BPG = 1.2

TPG = 3.5
FPG = 6.2

Teams played: (@sea, PHO, DEN, @SA, @DAL, CLE, NYK)


Andrew Bynum Stats when Kwame Brown was injured from 11-20 to 12-25 (just for comparison so we can see how much we are missing Drew in some areas) 18 games

MPG = 31.6

FGM - FGA per game = 5.6 - 8.6
FG% = 65%

FTM - FTA per game = 2.36 - 3.67
FT% = 64%

PPG = 13.55

oRPG = 3.3
dRPG = 7.0
RPG = 10.3

APG = 1.8
SPG = 0.5
BPG = 2.5

TPG = 1.7
FPG = 2.9


Per 48 Minutes

FGM - FGA per game = 8.5 - 13.1
FG% = 65%

FTM - FTA per game = 3.5 - 5.6
FT% = 64%

PPG = 20.6

oRPG = 5.0
dRPG = 10.6
RPG = 15.6

APG = 2.7
SPG = 0.8
BPG = 3.8

TPG = 2.6
FPG = 4.4

Teams Played (@IND, @MIL, @BOS, NJ, SEA,DEN, @UT, ORL, @DEN, GS, SA, LAC, @CHI, @CLE, @PHI, @NYK, PHO)

[Desiderium]

so in a nutshell, kwame sux and bynum is god.

[djericho]

I dunno if title is misleading "Post Bynum Injury" sounds like Bynum's back from injury.... I wouldn't know how to fix tho...

I think in a nutshell, Kwame is a good back up who's over paid, Bynum is an upcoming force

[SashAlex]

Kwame da best !

[8'sReverse]

Kwame with per 48 stats!!!!
That's so irrelevant to Kwame it's like this year's Heat and the playoffs... they just don't go together.

It's funny that his "per 48" stats is only semi-comparable to Bynum's normal stats.

I dunno if title is misleading "Post Bynum Injury" sounds like Bynum's back from injury.... I wouldn't know how to fix tho...

You just have to edit the title line in the OP with the edit option.

[xSABOx]

Kwame is a decent big man who will never get the benefit of the doubt because of where he was drafted...

jack of all trades big, but master of none...

[jimmywolfrey]

Kwame with per 48 stats!!!!
That's so irrelevant to Kwame it's like this year's Heat and the playoffs... they just don't go together.

It's funny that his "per 48" stats is only semi-comparable to Bynum's normal stats.

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You just have to edit the title line in the OP with the edit option.

Why is that funny he has better endurance than Bynum as to this point in time even with coming back from injury. Kwame has generally played when healthy 30 minutes per game until this year.

[Desiderium]

was this guy that good in high school to make him be the 1st draft pick?

[Gerald3Wallace]

was this guy that good in high school to make him be the 1st draft pick?

he was a guaranteed 31pts 17reb in highschool

[8'sReverse]

Why is that funny he has better endurance than Bynum as to this point in time even with coming back from injury. Kwame has generally played when healthy 30 minutes per game until this year.

It's funny because per 48 stats inflate a player's stats to the extreme, especially for a player, like Kwame, who doesn't come close to 48 minutes and never should. It's also equally funny that his stats per 48 are only semi close to Bynum's normal stats.

And as for more endurance than Bynum (even after injury)... I don't buy it. Have you seen the way he goes for rebounds? He doesn't even try to get it unless the ball comes right to him, and uncontested.

[jimmywolfrey]

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It's funny because per 48 stats inflate a player's stats to the extreme, especially for a player, like Kwame, who doesn't come close to 48 minutes and never should. It's also equally funny that his stats per 48 are only semi close to Bynum's normal stats.

And as for more endurance than Bynum (even after injury)... I don't buy it. Have you seen the way he goes for rebounds? He doesn't even try to get it unless the ball comes right to him, and uncontested.

its your money u can buy what you want.

48 stats are definitely relevant since bynum in the sample plays 31 mpg and kwame in the sample plays 27 mpg.. the 4 minute difference is marginal enough to when using the 48 minute stat there will be less fluctuation errors between the two players. I could have easily just did 35 minutes per game instead of 48 minutes per game..if you think its laughable to have players play 48 minutes per game.

i guess you missed the point of the stat.

[dockingsched]

kwame's a good back up center. he'll be even better when he gets paid like one.

[aussie_laker]

Kwame is a decent big man who will never get the benefit of the doubt because of where he was drafted...

jack of all trades big, but master of none...

+1

[Slava]

Edit the title.

It should be "Zomg! Kwame emo watch thread!"

[Taiwan Killa]

It's missing a stat: missed dunks/layups per game.

[8'sReverse]

i guess you missed the point of the stat.

No, really, I get it... and that's why I'm still laughing. Basically, whether you put stats as per 48/35/whatever or not, we know that Kwame rebounds less, defends less, scores less, TOs it more, fouls more, and is less efficient at about the same amount of time on the floor. Your OP is comparing the two and all I'm saying it really isn't comparable when it's so one-sided to Andrew Bynum.

[J Rob]

was this guy that good in high school to make him be the 1st draft pick?

Michael Jordan on high school Kwame:
"We don't know what he is capable of doing, and we don't know when to expect dividends, but it became apparent after we saw him work out that he has the skills and desire."

And don't quote me, but I've also heard he killed Tyson Chandler in their one-on-one workouts.

To the Wizards, he was a no brainer...Kwame actually told Doug Collins "If you pick me, you'll never regret it."

Its odd cause if you look at Kwame's early development, you could see his career going the way Bynum's and O'neal's went.

First couple years are rough cause they aren't quite ready, but you can see the growth and potential.

Even his moves and athletecism remind you of O'neal early on.

Then...all of sudden on the verge of breaking out, Kwame gets hurt and never becomes more than an 8 and 7 player.

Odd. Just odd.

Early on in his career, Kwame had all this athletecism and potential, but was known as a locker room cancer...to the point where he said he was going to punch Gilbert Arenas.

Then he comes to L.A., becames a favorite of his teammates, but seemingly loses his desire to become a great player, regresses, and puts on weight.

Kwame should see a therapist and a nutritionist (aka lose 20 pounds).

[FukaX]

a little google work with keywords kwame brown 2001

"The Wizards probably would have been better off trading down for a lower pick and an established veteran, but Kwame Brown was a sound choice at No. 1. He's the best all-around athlete among the top players, and could blossom into another Antonio McDyess"

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basket ... port_card/


1. Kwame Brown (6-11 240 lbs.) Glynn Academy (HS)
Positives: The most gifted player in the draft, Brown is a great
athlete with exceptional basketball skills. He can handle the ball
like a guard and has a good-looking stroke from 15 to 17 feet. Brown also has good floor vision and passes extremely well.
Brown is currently at his best when he faces up and takes people off the dribble using an excellent crossover dribble. Defensively, Brown is a devastating shotblocker with superb leaping ability, timing and reach.

Because of his combination of size, strength and skill, Brown is often
compared to Chris Webber and Kevin Garnett. At this point, Brown has a
much more NBA-ready physique than Garnett had coming out of high
school.
Negatives: Unfortunately, Brown does not enjoy posting up offensively
and takes far too many three-pointers. Despite Garnett-level skills,


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Donkeydode View profile
from: foulshots.com (2001) 1. Kwame Brown (6-11 240 lbs.) Glynn Academy (HS) Positives: The most gifted player in the draft, Brown is a great athlete with exceptional basketball skills. He can handle the ball like a guard and has a good-looking stroke from 15 to 17 feet. Brown also has good floor vision and passes extremely well. Brown is currently at his best when he faces up and takes people off the dribble using an excellent crossover dribble. Defensively, Brown is a devastating shotblocker with superb leaping ability, timing and reach. Because of his combination of size, strength and skill, Brown is often compared to Chris Webber and Kevin Garnett. At this point, Brown has a much more NBA-ready physique than Garnett had coming out of high school. Negatives: Unfortunately, Brown does not enjoy posting up offensively and takes far too many three-pointers. Despite Garnett-level skills, Brown has yet to demonstrate the burning competitiveness that Garnett exhibited at the same stage of development. Prognosis: Perhaps the best way to describe Kwame Brown is to say that he has the frame and physical skills of an Antonio McDyess and the basketball skills of a young Danny Manning. Brown could develop into a potential franchise player if he works hard on his game. Peak Projection: 22 ppg 10 rpg 4 apg 2.5 bpg ...wow. Takes too many 3 point shots? Exceptional basketball skills, excellent crossover dribble... Is this for real?

Jan 18, 1:12 pm 2001 from foulshots.com
Donkeydode
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.spor ... d33ea1599e


"Very graceful running the floor" "Passes and handles extraordinarily well"
Athleticism: 11 Jump Shot: 9 Rebounding: 9

http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/kwamebrown.htm

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2001-2002 my memory from following MJ on the wizard and creeping on the wizards board

2001-2002 season kwame brown would want to play in the wing and MJ and Doug Collins would wave him off and sit his ass on the bench if he doesnt play like a traditional big man.

Kwame brown also decided to take MJ on in practice one vs one and was humiliated by MJ

For his first couple practices drills, kwame would break down and cry after beign rough housed by jahidi White while jordan and doug collins barked at him

Conclusion

Phil gambled on this guy and he lost

[FukaX]

http://forums.sohh.com/archive/index.php/t-694832.html
Lyrical Hybrid BK03-19-06, 09:58 PM

One day after practice, having notice Kwame palming yet another basketball in solitary amusment, Jordan palmed two balls, extending his arms to Kwame and shouting "Hey Kwame, you know what the difference is between you doing this and me doing this?" Brown looked stumped. Jordan laughed and yelled, "They pay me 35 million when I do it"

Jordan's infatuation with his protege waned. He thought Brown was cocky and disrespectful sometimes, particularly when the teenager nagged him about playing a one-on-one game, hinting that doom awaited him. Finally, Jordan agreed to the game, Brown grinning on the court, convinced his youth and height would be indefensible weapons against a shorter man twice his age. Early in the game, believing he had a lunging , jabbing Jordan off balance, the kid dared to say, "You reach, I'll teach." Jordan snapped "You teach and i'll know you on your f*ckin @ss."

He proceeded to humiliate Brown, mocking him while scoring at will, declining to help him up when the teenager fell hard on the floor, winning lopsidedly and, at the end, yelling at Brown to acknowledge his superiority in front of the team: _________________


And people thought Kobe was harsh on andrew bynum during the summer?

this is really good to read


There is a 3 paragraph max on articles.

Side Note: Posting material that attempts to get around the language filter is also a no-no.

Posting the words with @ or * still qualify as bad language here. I urge everyone to remember that.

[jimmywolfrey]

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No, really, I get it... and that's why I'm still laughing. Basically, whether you put stats as per 48/35/whatever or not, we know that Kwame rebounds less, defends less, scores less, TOs it more, fouls more, and is less efficient at about the same amount of time on the floor. Your OP is comparing the two and all I'm saying it really isn't comparable when it's so one-sided to Andrew Bynum.

I'm sorry you are missing the point. I posted the 48's not to compare the skill level of the two players. geezus. Where the Lakers need to step due to Bynum not being there. Obviously, scoring is one of the areas that they need stepping up.