Malarkey, you said it

write4u · Post #1 » by **write4u** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 4:56 am

Arguably the best player of all time ... Shaq?

Not even close. Shaq gets schooled by Wilt, Russell, Akeem, and Hakeem, and Walton at his best was a much better all around player.

Is he the best center of his generation, probably, unless you consider Duncan a center, who has a different skillset and is an all around better player, though not nearly as dominant.

That's just centers. He's a step down from Michael, Magic, and Larry.

Triangle Theory · Post #2 » by **Triangle Theory** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:00 am

Most dominant ever.

Post #3 » by **Slava** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:13 am

Not sure how you'd rank the Shaq of the 3-peat days. He stood up to guys like The Admiral and Duncn the post and still won titles. Not too many centers can do that.

Tommy Trojan · Post #4 » by **Tommy Trojan** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:19 am

I would not want to play the Suns in the playoffs.

Rather play the Spurs, Mavs, Jazz, but not the Suns.

Come playoff time Shaq has something to prove and I don't want him to prove it on us

That Nicka · Post #5 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:24 am

Shaq will foul out of every game trying to defend our Kobe+Bynum/Pau pick and roll

Bring em on!

Post #6 » by **Slava** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:29 am

Didn't Amare have foul problems earlier in the season too? It just makes the trade all the more dangerous for the Suns, given their frontcourt depth.

Post #7 » by **LLcoleJ** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:44 am

NO!!!

I have never said Malarkey....never!

bobobolas1 · Post #8 » by **bobobolas1** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:14 am

well, it is true that with Shaq playing, they are going to lose D. Shaq will be on bynum if we meet them in playoff and i wonder, amare can stop pau in pickandroll? With amare in the paint, Shaq doesnt need to be that quick The problem is when they try to make a new matrix out of diaw. it is not possible.
Suns are changing, can not know yet if it is for bad.

SashAlex · Post #9 » by **SashAlex** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 12:48 pm

Shaq is definitely one of the best players NBA has ever seen ! But no way the most dominant. Bill Russel and Kareem at their best looked a lot better than Shaq against much tougher centers. Shaq is too limited, now even more.

No way he's the most dominant !

Spanish_Laker · Post #10 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 1:58 pm

Shaquille O

TonyMontana · Post #11 » by **TonyMontana** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:04 pm

Honestly I have no problem playing any team anytime once we get Bynum and Ariza back .

FTW bring anyone anytime .

Cboywhitey · Post #12 » by **Cboywhitey** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:37 pm

I would say that shaq is probably the most dominate player of all time.

You have to remember that shaq is at least responsible for 2 nba rule changes.

If you have such an advantage that the league cries so much that the nba changes it's rules to allow teams the ability to guard you to be fair I would say you are pretty dominate.

Best ever? I don't know about that...but if the term is dominate I have to agree.

kobeaki · Post #13 » by **kobeaki** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:50 pm

Cboywhitey wrote:I would say that shaq is probably the most dominate player of all time.

You have to remember that shaq is at least responsible for 2 nba rule changes.

If you have such an advantage that the league cries so much that the nba changes it's rules to allow teams the ability to guard you to be fair I would say you are pretty dominate.

Best ever? I don't know about that...but if the term is dominate I have to agree.

wilt baby, wilt.

wilt was stronger,leaner and played his position better....shaq is second to him...actually third behind wilt and hakeem....

check out if you can the 94-95 finals, hakeem craps on shaq and humiliates him. Repeatedly.

kobeaki · Post #14 » by **kobeaki** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:52 pm

the one thing that always give me pause about giving shaq more credit stat wise is his lack of rebounding prowess, to me , for a big man, to be in the conversation as top three or whatever your rebounding,on both sides, needs to be stellar, and shaqs rebounding isnt/wasnt ever bad, but for his size and skill....

Post #15 » by **LLcoleJ** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:15 pm

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wilt baby, wilt.

wilt was stronger,leaner and played his position better....shaq is second to him...actually third behind wilt and hakeem....

check out if you can the 94-95 finals, hakeem craps on shaq and humiliates him. Repeatedly.

No question the Dream had a great series and he was the MVP and deserved it. However, I wouldnt say he humiliated Shaq. Young Shaq did average 28 points per game with a better Fg% to Hakeems 32.

The Laker Kid · Post #16 » by **The Laker Kid** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:22 pm

what's a Malarkey? Is this some kind of a disease caused by a mosquito bite?

TommyTheCat · Post #17 » by **TommyTheCat** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:35 pm

he's the most dominant player i've ever seen. i've only been watching the nba since 79 so i didn't see the young kaj or any wilt/russel.

i wouldn't say he's the best player i've watched but he was the most dominant

TruSkool · Post #18 » by **TruSkool** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 2:58 am

ur a hater if you dont think shaq was the most dominant ever...

he was a monster in his day..98-05....and no one could have ever came close to shaq..not kareem, no wilt, not russell, not walton, not parish...or whoever...
shaq was a walking talking bulldozer...
and d12/a-bomb are next