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Lebron was the inbounds guy with 6 seconds left before the half and threw it in to Ben Wallace. Ben immediately is able to get the ball back to Lebron and he goes all the way for a leaning bank shot.

Craig Sager asks him about that shot at the end and Lebron says that it's hard to double the guy inbounding the ball.


Now my question is that when the Lakers try to make a play for Kobe at the end of half's or games Kobe is always doubled and tripled and they seem to get bad looks or sometimes no shot at all.

Why not let Kobe inbound the ball and then go from there. Just like against the Mavs when Dirk inbounded the ball to Jason Kidd and Kidd gave it right back for a wide open three at the top of the key.

http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=DjXxq5lHU ... re=related

I think it's something Phil needs to do so Kobe isn't always taken out of the play all the time.......

Because Phil is old school. He uses the same inbound play he's used since the Michael days. That diagonal line where Kobe is like the third one from the top. The first two players flash towards the ball and fill the triangle position and it opens up Kobe to receive the ball in the post. Really, Really, Really predictable. He uses this if it's an inbound play in the first quarter or if it's an inbounds play with 10 seconds left in the game.

one of the smartest things ive ever read here

Kobe D wrote:Because Phil is old school. He uses the same inbound play he's used since the Michael days. That diagonal line where Kobe is like the third one from the top. The first two players flash towards the ball and fill the triangle position and it opens up Kobe to receive the ball in the post. Really, Really, Really predictable. He uses this if it's an inbound play in the first quarter or if it's an inbounds play with 10 seconds left in the game.

i love phil but i'd also like him to reconsider his stance on not fouling a player intentionally when they are down by 3 to make them settle for 2 free throws. phil knows zen but does he know math

BRILLIANT!

This could also backfire, If Kobe passes it in its not for sure that he will always get the ball back... Smart defenders (eg not Lamar) will hug a great inbounder after he passes the ball or at least play great denial defense....

I'd probably wanna rip my eyes out if I had to watch Lamar create something from the perimeter for a final shot attempt

its a good idea, convincing phil thats a whole other ball game

That's what IMO is going to hurt us in the playoffs, Phil's stubborness

i agree with this becaue lakers fans know that we have trouble getting the ball in Kobe's hands after a timeout at the end of the game. A perfect example is the Dallas game where Kidd stole the ball, but i can also think of many others when the ball ends up in someone like Radmans hands (last year against the Spurs) .

The play just never seems to go right-and the ball goes to a second or third option everytime. I think Phils plays are getting way to predictable and he needs to take a page out of some of the other coaches books.

ive seen it both ways. guy inbounds the ball, immediately they jump on him and double him. and the guy passed the ball already. so defenses can and do adjust. pass the ball to wallace again and watch what wouldve happened. they'll bail on wallace and beg for him to shoot the ball, while double up immediately on lebron.

secondly, by kobe being in motion and getting the ball in his hands, he creates immediately. but passing the ball can lock you out of the play.

Wonders and wonders. Are you a coach? Make millions?

Bias sampling doesn't prove anything. Bring up all the final seconds plays Phil has been involved in.

Who is this Mike Brown dude. Finals 0-4 Coach rings in my head.

Its worth trying out if Kobe inbounds the ball to someone like Sasha or Farmar or Fisher but the ball is normally inbounded by the taller guy so as to get an unobstructed vision. The opposition teams could as well try to screen Bryant immediately after the inbound to deny him the ball in case we need a 3 pt play, Gasol or Bynum could be left wide open without much harm.

Also Bryant is doubled by default in 4th Qs. There absolutely is a very slim chance that he would get the ball back as easily as Lebron thinks. Players have gotten away by even pushing Kobe around in the late shot clock scenarios.

I just emailed Phil Jackson about it.

If you have ever played organized ball you know that when there's a play at the end of the game that if the star player is inbounding the ball that most likely they are trying to get the ball back to him after he passes it in so the best thing to do is deny him with two guys causing someone else to try to create a play. Its much easier trying to get the ball in kobe's hands and letting him create or using kobe as a decoy to get other players an open look. I would assume thats why phil doesn't do that.

Kobe D wrote:Because Phil is old school. He uses the same inbound play he's used since the Michael days. That diagonal line where Kobe is like the third one from the top. The first two players flash towards the ball and fill the triangle position and it opens up Kobe to receive the ball in the post. Really, Really, Really predictable. He uses this if it's an inbound play in the first quarter or if it's an inbounds play with 10 seconds left in the game.

2004 Western Conference Semis, Game #5 vs. San Antonio Spurs ! Who made the jump shoot with 0.4 !!! seconds left ?

With Kobe inbounding it won't make it easier, believe me.

Illuminati wrote:I just emailed Phil Jackson about it.

Did'ya ? Tell him that he's a great coach !

Nodody fears lebron's outside shot so it will be easier for him to recieve the ball back. Having kobe inbound actually helps the defense possibly get a 5 seconds call and gives them time to prepare for the double team on kobe.

I do agree we need to come up with a few more plays for inbound scenerios though.

G35 wrote:Lebron was the inbounds guy with 6 seconds left before the half and threw it in to Ben Wallace. Ben immediately is able to get the ball back to Lebron and he goes all the way for a leaning bank shot.

Craig Sager asks him about that shot at the end and Lebron says that it's hard to double the guy inbounding the ball.


Now my question is that when the Lakers try to make a play for Kobe at the end of half's or games Kobe is always doubled and tripled and they seem to get bad looks or sometimes no shot at all.

Why not let Kobe inbound the ball and then go from there. Just like against the Mavs when Dirk inbounded the ball to Jason Kidd and Kidd gave it right back for a wide open three at the top of the key.

http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=DjXxq5lHU ... re=related

I think it's something Phil needs to do so Kobe isn't always taken out of the play all the time.......

We're talking about the coach who doesnt foul at the end of games when we are up 3.

This has happened twice by the way.

Phoenix Game 6 back in 2006 and Tim Thomas shot the 3. Sunday against the Mavs where Dirk shot the 3.

Phil actually invented or was the first person I have seen use the play in chicago but with Pippen and Kukoc. For some reason though as much as I expect to see it I never do,