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OT- Lebron, Gisele and Vouge 

Post#1 » by snaquille oatmeal » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:49 pm

I know this does not have anything to do with Lakers and it is also old news, but I was curious as to what is Lakerlands take on this.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/28/uncovered-possible-inspi_n_93944.html



Uncovered: Possible Inspiration For Controversial LeBron James Vogue Cover
Ever since Vogue put basketball star LeBron James on its cover
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Post#2 » by iamworthy » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:06 pm

Non-issue. People are reaching.
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Post#3 » by That Nicka » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:40 pm

I think its wrong but there's not much you can do about it
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Post#4 » by slifersd » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:57 pm

Why does everything have to be about race nowadays? This cover simply tries to show that LeBron is a beast among man, what is wrong with that? I am so tired of listening to people talking about how everything is racism nowadays. This everything has to be politically correct crap is the worst thing ever invented by mankind.
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Post#5 » by kno » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:30 pm

Its nothing.

Lets all move on.
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Post#6 » by That Nicka » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:30 pm

slifersd wrote:Why does everything have to be about race nowadays? This cover simply tries to show that LeBron is a beast among man, what is wrong with that? I am so tired of listening to people talking about how everything is racism nowadays. This everything has to be politically correct crap is the worst thing ever invented by mankind.


I dunno where you have been but people have been getting bent outta shape about things that have to do with race for a loooooooong time, not just recently

I think you are the first person I have ever heard cmplain about things being politically correct...

Again, I think the pic is wrong but at the same time I dont think it deserves all the attention/controversy its got and I dont think its anything to really complain about
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Post#7 » by slifersd » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:11 pm

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I dunno where you have been but people have been getting bent outta shape about things that have to do with race for a loooooooong time, not just recently

I think you are the first person I have ever heard cmplain about things being politically correct...

Again, I think the pic is wrong but at the same time I dont think it deserves all the attention/controversy its got and I dont think its anything to really complain about



I know people have been bent out of shape about race issues for a long time. In fact, I think that's where all the problems came from. I am not complaining about things being politically correct, all I am saying is, we as a society are obsessed with every single little thing being "politically correct". I am not black, so maybe I don't get it, but I personally didn't see anything wrong with that picture. It's just a man dribbling a basketball with a woman in his arm, I don't know where all the controversy came from.
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Post#8 » by Rox_Nix_Nox » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:15 pm

And Lebron was cool with this? He's clearly portrayed as the big bad gorilla.
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Post#9 » by That Nicka » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:22 pm

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I know people have been bent out of shape about race issues for a long time. In fact, I think that's where all the problems came from. I am not complaining about things being politically correct, all I am saying is, we as a society are obsessed with every single little thing being "politically correct". I am not black, so maybe I don't get it, but I personally didn't see anything wrong with that picture. It's just a man dribbling a basketball with a woman in his arm, I don't know where all the controversy came from.


I agree that we as a society unnecessarily nit pick at things that dont/arent always meant to come off in a negative way.. But I also feel that people should be very careful when it comes to stuff like this... LeBron is a role model for so many people that any little thing he does can be made to be controversial to someone

As soon as I saw the picture I knew it was a re-creation of a gorilla (I thought it was the old King Kong pic though)... And I know its supposed to mean LeBron is a Beast, but people have been calling black people monkeys, apes, gorillas, knuckle draggers etc. for centuries so thats why its a touchy subject and thats why I can see why some people might be offended by it
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Post#10 » by Erik Eleven » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:26 am

Whoever reads racism into this has a latent issue with race. Race didn't even enter my mind when I saw this cover in the store. All I thought was, beastly stud with petite super hottie
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Post#11 » by magic#32 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:45 am

Who cares about LeBron? Gisele Bundchen is there, i didnt even notice that was LeBron.
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Post#12 » by That Nicka » Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:00 am

When I first saw the pic, I thought it was re-creating this:

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Post#13 » by O.C Brandon » Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:31 am

awesome photo.

anyone who has a problem with that has issues. I don't think vogue is about being racist.
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Post#14 » by Sofa King » Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:45 am

i had a wtf moment.

Then I asked my friend (who is black) just now what he thought of this. He got offended.
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Post#15 » by milesfides » Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:38 am

You know, when I first saw the cover a couple weeks ago, I didn't really get it. I didn't get why Lebron was screaming, and why Gisele was smiling but leaning away from him. It was just one of those nonsense covers to me.

But now that I've seen that King Kong poster, I'm not going to lie, there are some undeniable similarities.

Those two pictures juxtaposed, it looks REAL bad to me now. Also, I don't think you need to be black to be offended.

Even if it's unintentional and purely coincidental, I think people have a right to be offended.

In this case, I find it hard to believe that the imagery wasn't at least expressed subconsciously by the designer. Then again, the details are so EXACT that it's hard to believe it was subconscious. They look too deliberate.

Considering the history of racist depictions of blacks as simian creatures, I think the editor should publicly apologize. Privately, I think whoever designed it is a douchebag and should get his ass kicked.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck...it's racism.

After all, somebody in a white hooded robe burning a cross on a black person's lawn could claim he was just cold and needed warmth.

And really, racism is defined by what the victims believe, not what the perpetrators believe. Otherwise, isn't Kramer a comedian? Couldn't he claim black people overreacted to his "jokes"?

I don't know. My ignorance of the King Kong poster prevented me from making the connection, but obscurity isn't indemnity.

To those who are offended, I suggest writing to the magazine and giving them a piece of your mind.
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Post#16 » by O.C Brandon » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:38 am

a lot of people probably dislike the fact lebron is a major star, he's on the cover of vogue. if he doesn't have a problem with it, then its not a problem.
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Post#17 » by LLcoleJ » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:43 am

No, I dont think Lebron has a massive following of people who dislike him.



I personally dont have an issue with this at all. And that opinion has nothing to do with who is on the cover. I see 2 rich people getting richer.
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Post#18 » by O.C Brandon » Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:17 am

ask any black guy to be on that cover with that lady for the money they received and they'd take it. no matter what the magazines intent was...

its a great cover in my opinion. 2 of the worlds hottest stars. what if the girl was black but the same image was taken??? would the gorilla thing still matter?

I think the biggest problem people have is that its a white girl with a black guy.

its 2008, get over it.
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Post#19 » by That Nicka » Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:38 am

O.C Brandon wrote:ask any black guy to be on that cover with that lady for the money they received and they'd take it. no matter what the magazines intent was...


I disagree

O.C Brandon wrote:its a great cover in my opinion. 2 of the worlds hottest stars. what if the girl was black but the same image was taken??? would the gorilla thing still matter?

I think the biggest problem people have is that its a white girl with a black guy.

its 2008, get over it.


I disagree again... I think the biggest problem people have is that after all these years, people could still be trying to portray black people as monkeys
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Post#20 » by That Nicka » Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:40 am

milesfides wrote:


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Great post Miles

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