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Ariza's game: How it affects the Lakers
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 4:36 am
by e_dela06
Its been so long since we have seen #3 suit up for the Lakers. And it also seems that not a lot has been talked about his comeback and how important it will be for the team, if important at all. So what are some positives of his game that you know? Will he contribute in the playoffs? How bright of a future?
i would love to see a player like him with a shot like 'the machine's'..
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 5:07 am
by crazyeights
Pretty sure Ariza will never develop a shot like The Machine's. Shooters aren't made, they're born.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 5:11 am
by Farsi Man
He's more of a fast break player. Get's the steal and runs the wing for the dunk. I suppose his man D is good too if he puts his mind to it. In the last couple of games he playing he was actually hitting his jumpers.
He was making some corner 3 point shots and a 2 pointer off of a curl at the top of the key. If he practices his jumper over the summer the Lakers should look to resign him.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 5:20 am
by tnayrbrocks
Ariza's form is actually pretty good and it looks like it can turn into something pretty consistent.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 5:22 am
by second_coming32
Ariza would be our best defensive option at the three, especially against half court sets. We don't need his offense, we just need him to stop somebody on the wing. Anything he can give us would be an upgrade over Newble, Odom, Walton, or Radmanovic defensively.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 5:49 am
by Chubby Chaser
crazyeights wrote:Pretty sure Ariza will never develop a shot like The Machine's. Shooters aren't made, they're born.
Strongly disagree. Anyone can learn to shoot as long as they put in the effort and practice at it. Look at Amare. Before he got injured he had no shot. All he was known for was dunking, alley-oops and put backs. During his year off for recovery he worked on his shot. Now he has a great mid range game, free throw percentage, and even has a three point shot now.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 6:18 am
by MAMBAEMD
Ariza would be a great asset to the Lakers offensively if he developed a mid-range jumpshot which he does not have yet IMO, and as a slasher taking the ball to the hoop. The triangle is perect for players like him who are able to move without the ball and shoot mid-range shots.
He is already a great asset defensively as a perimeter defender. We sorely miss him in that department which I believe is his greatest contribution to our team.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 6:33 am
by Sroek
Ariza is an exploder and a cutter. Great for someone like Gasol who's playing high and looking for the open man. Great for Kobe who's getting double/triple-teamed.
Ariza can also beat his defender off the dribble for a wide open lane to the basket with a strong finish. He'll also make our fastbreaks much more efficient.
On defense, he's our best option at the 3 position. He'll be able to guard athletic guards and small forwards who we seem to have a tough time with.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 6:38 am
by MAMBAEMD
Sroek wrote:Ariza is an exploder and a cutter. Great for someone like Gasol who's playing high and looking for the open man. Great for Kobe who's getting double/triple-teamed.
Ariza can also beat his defender off the dribble for a wide open lane to the basket with a strong finish. He'll also make our fastbreaks much more efficient.
On defense, he's our best option at the 3 position. He'll be able to guard athletic guards and small forwards who we seem to have a tough time with.
+1
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 7:15 am
by Rox_Nix_Nox
I remember the Christmas game against phoenix. Nash was bringing it up the court and they ran that play when the man on the sideline does a really fast back-cut to the basket and in this case it was barbosa who made the cut on trevor and it looked like he had beaten trevor and had a wide open lay-up but out of nowhere trevor's long arm swatted the ball the hell out of there. I jumped out my seat, so used to seeing that as another two easy points.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 8:01 am
by tagsu
i remember the games we had with him at the beginning of the season before he got injured and he looked very good in those. he would be like our barbosa except tougher better d but no 3 pt shot.. definitely the type of player you want in games against warriors or suns or blazers
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 8:14 am
by Slava
Remember that game when he kept AI to 2 points in the 4th after 50 something in the 1st 3? Thats the kind of game changing defense he could bring to the table.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 9:22 am
by Chubby Chaser
j-far wrote:Remember that game when he kept AI to 2 points in the 4th after 50 something in the 1st 3? Thats the kind of game changing defense he could bring to the table.
+1 That is the number one game that sticks in my head when I think of his defense. AI was killing us that game, then Ariza came in and shut him down.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 9:44 am
by SashAlex
He's athletic, very athletic ! That's what we need more than anything. His athleticvism allows him to get to the hoop easier, faster, also scoring fast-break points. I won't say anything about defense because we know of what he is able to do in defense.
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:40 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
crazyeights wrote:Pretty sure Ariza will never develop a shot like The Machine's. Shooters aren't made, they're built in assembly lines several years after Judgement Day by the Cyberdyne Corp then sent back in time.
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Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:52 pm
by G35
Sroek wrote:Ariza is an exploder and a cutter. Great for someone like Gasol who's playing high and looking for the open man. Great for Kobe who's getting double/triple-teamed.
Ariza can also beat his defender off the dribble for a wide open lane to the basket with a strong finish. He'll also make our fastbreaks much more efficient.
On defense, he's our best option at the 3 position. He'll be able to guard athletic guards and small forwards who we seem to have a tough time with.
Good analysis.......
Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 4:48 pm
by LA-LA-Land
snaquille oatmeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =
fixed for accuracy

but crazyeights (snaq too)... doesnt that mean shooters
are made?
hehehe

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 9:20 pm
by CITYOFANGELSX3
snaquille oatmeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
fixed for accuracy


for cyberdine reference
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 12:22 am
by O.C Brandon
second_coming32 wrote:Ariza would be our best defensive option at the three, especially against half court sets. We don't need his offense, we just need him to stop somebody on the wing. Anything he can give us would be an upgrade over Newble, Odom, Walton, or Radmanovic defensively.
Ariza will not only be our best defensive option at the 3, he'll be the best on the team, the guy just always had his hand on the ball...real energized on D.
Posted: Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:30 am
by Leonidas
I just loved it when Trevor gave Grant Hill a taste of his hairy beanbag. It was hilarious. And afterwards Grant said it was an illegal play or move.... hahahaha
Hill, u got Owned!!!!