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where are you guys now?
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:30 am
by kobeaki
where are all the LUKE WALTON haters right about now, now that he is healthy....?
the guys is playing great now that he is feelin better, and where are the apologies for the ripping he's got all season...?
or am i waaaay off and he only plays good in the playoffs(like thats bad).
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:33 am
by rhp1990
Kobe is playing with a hurt pinky all season, you don't use injury as an excuse all the time. He was suppose to play like this in the season, but i'm glad he turned it around in the playoffs.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:40 am
by kobeaki
rhp1990 wrote:Kobe is playing with a hurt pinky all season, you don't use injury as an excuse all the time. He was suppose to play like this in the season, but i'm glad he turned it around in the playoffs.
nice dodge...seriously people right here were saying he was garbage, worst signing ever blah blah blah, guy has been hurt all season, and no very few people let alone players have kobes drive, so that isnt really a fair comparison....
anyway....
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:48 am
by snaquille oatmeal
rhp1990 wrote:Kobe is playing with a hurt pinky all season, you don't use injury as an excuse all the time. He was suppose to play like this in the season, but i'm glad he turned it around in the playoffs.
are you actually comparing a pinky injury to an ankle injury? that is like comparing Coby to Bynum.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:50 am
by UThinkUrSoGood
The question is..... Where were you all season when Luke wasn't playing at this level???
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:52 am
by rhp1990
snaquille oatmeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
are you actually comparing a pinky injury to an ankle injury? that is like comparing Coby to Bynum.
i wasn't trying to compare it, i was just saying kobe is playing with an injury and he's not making excuses. Pau Gasol played with an ankle injury for a while to when he came back. I was just saying he should have learned how to play with the ankle injury after 50+ games of playing with it and contribute on the floor.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:54 am
by LA Warrior
I'll be the first to admit I was a avid Luke hater but hes stepped his game up in the playoffs. Same with Odom. I can remember yelling at the TV "DUNK THE BALL ODOM" He dunks alot more in the playoffs. He saves his legs. Pretty smart. But then again this is the Nuggets... Thier D can make anyone look like a superstar.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:56 am
by rhp1990
In the season he was missing WIDE open shots, i'm sure you can adjust to make wide open shots after having an ankle injury for so long.
I'm glad he's playing like how he was suppose to play when he signed that big contract.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 am
by Gerald3Wallace
maybe its the nuggets? i dont know..their defense seems to suck..
jk jk...lukes been stepping it up..
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:21 am
by kobeaki
UThinkUrSoGood wrote:The question is..... Where were you all season when Luke wasn't playing at this level???
do a search with my name and luke, defending the guy all the time all season....
seriously, not be snarky, but i was, pretty consistantly...
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:22 am
by iamworthy
He sucked in the regular season and he deserved to get dissed. He is having a great post season, he deserved to get props.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:25 am
by kobeaki
rhp1990 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
i wasn't trying to compare it, i was just saying kobe is playing with an injury and he's not making excuses. Pau Gasol played with an ankle injury for a while to when he came back. I was just saying he should have learned how to play with the ankle injury after 50+ games of playing with it and contribute on the floor.
luke wasnt either, and neither am i...there exist a substantial difference between an explanation and an excuse...
and i dont remember you being one of the haters, so my battle isnt with you, the cats around here know who they are, and suspect they will be little caspers from here on out....
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:26 am
by kobeaki
iamworthy wrote:He sucked in the regular season and he deserved to get dissed. He is having a great post season, he deserved to get props.
being called out is one thing, being labeled "utter garbage" is quite another....
dude was injured, has played very well the last three or four weeks...
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:28 am
by Erik Eleven
Never been a huge Luke fan, never will be. He's a very smart player, but boring as hell to watch even when he's on his game
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:29 am
by iamworthy
kobeaki wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
being called out is one thing, being labeled "utter garbage" is quite another....
dude was injured, has played very well the last three or four weeks...
Most people on the Laker board post according to how the player is playing at that time, no matter what. If Kobe has an off game, he gets ripped. If LO has an off game, he gets ripped. If Luke has an off game, he gets ripped. Most people are pretty fair around here.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:45 am
by Gerald3Wallace
iamworthy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Most people on the Laker board post according to how the player is playing at that time, no matter what. If Kobe has an off game, he gets ripped. If LO has an off game, he gets ripped. If Luke has an off game, he gets ripped. Most people are pretty fair around here.
pretty much
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:17 am
by rhp1990
iamworthy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Most people on the Laker board post according to how the player is playing at that time, no matter what. If Kobe has an off game, he gets ripped. If LO has an off game, he gets ripped. If Luke has an off game, he gets ripped. Most people are pretty fair around here.
+1
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:07 am
by kobeaki
Erik Eleven wrote:Never been a huge Luke fan, never will be. He's a very smart player, but boring as hell to watch even when he's on his game
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:29 am
by alfurd
I was very critical of Luke but I don't post much and my criticisms are old. I knocked him because he's slow, so he gets beat of defense. His jumpshot was really inconsistent, which minimized his effectiveness on offense (e.g. Why chase after him around a screen when he wouldn't hit the shot? He'll be looking to pass the ball anyway). I didn't think he'd develop enough as a more complete player to progress beyond a limited role. Still not a Luke "fan" but I do appreciate what he is capable of doing for this team much more so than I have in the past.
Intangibles are great, but his value might be higher on this Laker team than the teams of past years, which had weak rosters with players that didn't go mix with Luke's skill set. He complements good players better (duh).
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:49 am
by Tesla
Its pretty simple to me.
If you play like crap, you are going to get credited for playing like crap. If you play good, you are going to get credited for playing good. Luke played most of the regular season like crap, thus people said he was playing like crap. Now, Luke is playing pretty awesome in the 3games so far in the playoffs, and people are praising him for his good play.
^ It usually works like this.... unless you are a superstar, popular player, etc.. it usually causes polarizing effects (Ex. Kobe... damned if he does, damned if he doesnt).
EDIT: Iamworthy already said the same thing pretty much. I agree with you!