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Post#1 » by Dexmor » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:58 pm

Pau Gasol is absolutely awesome. We all know that.

This year he is playing out of position at the 5. Next year when Bynum comes back he will go back to his natural position at the 4. I believe it will have a Amare type effect when Bynum comes back meaning Shaq made Amare so much better and Bynum will do that for Gasol. Gasol gets to play the 4 and alot of the attention will go to Bynum freeing up Gasol. With Kobe there you can't double team him and he is unguardable. He has so many post moves and can pass with the best and can shoot great from anywhere on the court. I believe with Kobe being unselfish Gasol will be an mvp candidate not like Paul were he really might get it but he will get some votes. He will put up 22-24 points with 10 rebounds and 5 dimes next year. He will be an allstar and he will be on the all nba 1st-3rd team.
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Post#2 » by ShowtimeFan » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:10 pm

I have the exact same thoughts!

IF the Lakers can remain healhty (Of course Mihm won't), a 70 win season is not out of the question..

I am worried that some brain-dead GM will offer Rony or Sasha a HUGE contract that Mitch will not want to match (ala GS did with Fisher a few years back..)

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Post#3 » by SashAlex » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:13 pm

70 wins ??!!

You must be dreaming ?!

I suppose even healthy the Lakers won't go over 65 wins.
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Post#4 » by TommyTheCat » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:23 pm

70 would be tough, especially in the west.

as for gasol, i think that having bynum back would actually make gasol's #s go down slightly or keep them the same. with kobe, odom (if still a laker), gasol and bynum, i don't see gasol needing to carry as much of a scoring load as he currently is. bynum's going to get some of the low post points and i think gasol will move out of the key a little more on offense..........which would also lead to a decrease in rebounds.

i'd put him at 18-19ppg, 8.5rpg, 4apg
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Post#5 » by Tommy Trojan » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:46 pm

I agree Dexmor
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Post#6 » by lukeridenour » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:57 pm

i think ronny is the type of guy to stay with the laker for their loyalty. remember they could have cut him during his heart surgery but instead they fund him and stood by him. as long as roony doesnt pull a hill (magic having to enjury his constant injury only to see him leave when hes healthy) everything should be fine.

i heard sasha "loves" gasol so maybe he will stay too.
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Post#7 » by Dexmor » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:09 pm

The only way his numbers go down is from less minutes because they are blowing out teams. Shaq made Amare's numbers go up just like Bynum will. Bynum will stay planted in the paint which will naturally make players go down to prevent the easy bucket and he will be hitting Gasol. You can't double off Kobe or Odom and I believe Phil will tell Bynum to hit Gasol which will give Gasol plenty of open looks. Add that to the fact that Gasol has so many moves and will be shooting at such a high % and Kobe will be passing alot more and maybe with Kobe being such a passer Phil will have the offense running threw Gasol. Gasol is playing out of position with a team he hasn't been with long and next year he will be playing with a great Center in his proper position with a team he is used to and he is playing against Marcus Camby and look how good he is doing.

As for 70 wins I think even in the West current it is still very possible if healthy as long as they don't trade Odom for a scrub (hopefully they trade him for Artest) I think 70 wins is very possible for them. I mean they obviously have the best frontcourt in basketball with Bynum/Gasol/Odom the best SG and the best coach in basketball. Why can't they win 70 games? Why can't they win 73 if healthy? They won what 57 games this year and they started off in turmoil with Kobe wanting to be traded DFish just coming back and no Gasol and Bynum just starting to take off.
Now they will all be together and a team with a superstar PF and allstar C is pretty damm dangerous but add Kobe and Odom to that and how do you beat them?
What can be the strategy? They are unstoppable. Can you name 1 team that is missing one of there stars and is still projected to be in the finals and win by some? Would the Celtics,Suns,Spurs,Mavs,Hornets,Jazz or any team ever be a favorite missing one of there allstars? We are.

As for the whole there are not enough balls for 4 stars theory I don't think it applies here. The only player who is gonna wanna get his points is Bynum and he is a guy who should be shooting alot with his % and size and selection and what him scoring does for them. Odom is super unlselfish, Kobe has become unselfish and Gasol has always been unselfish and lets just look at some of the players we have, all guys who are unselfish players and passers

Gasol
Odom
Walton
Kobe
Farmar
Fisher
Sasha
Ronny

add the fact that they use the triangle offense. Having a team of passers and using the triangle offense is like having Jason Kidd on the floor and his passing has gotten contagoius.
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Post#8 » by That Nicka » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:28 pm

If we stay healthy and Bynum continues to improve, I think we have a shot at 70
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Post#9 » by TonyMontana » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:37 pm

YA Im with Star on this one , I think this team can win 92 games next year , if were dreaming then let's go all out .
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Post#10 » by Dexmor » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:43 pm

Why can't we?

Gasol is in his prime
Going back to his natural position at the 4
Has a height advantage on everybody but KG and Duncan
Has a speed advantage on everybody at that position but a few
Is playing in the triangle with 3 other stars
One of those other stars is a Center
Will be fully gelled by then
Has a great coach
Will probably be first option threw the first 3 quarters
Has moves like Hakeem plus the sky hook
Never played on a great team before


You tell me with all those things isn't it possible Gasol will be a top 5 pf next year?
Is it possible Bynum will be a top 3-5 C next year?
If Odom keeps it up wouldn't he be the perfect 4th man and top 10 sf?
Is Kobe not the top SG?
Is Phil not the best coach in the league?
Do the Lakers not have one of the best benches and even a 6th man candidate in Farmar?

Lakers could win 70 games no problem if healthy which after the long rest for Bynum and Kobe's surgery they will be.
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Post#11 » by TommyTheCat » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:49 pm

Dexmor wrote:The only way his numbers go down is from less minutes because they are blowing out teams. Shaq made Amare's numbers go up just like Bynum will. Bynum will stay planted in the paint which will naturally make players go down to prevent the easy bucket and he will be hitting Gasol. You can't double off Kobe or Odom and I believe Phil will tell Bynum to hit Gasol which will give Gasol plenty of open looks. Add that to the fact that Gasol has so many moves and will be shooting at such a high % and Kobe will be passing alot more and maybe with Kobe being such a passer Phil will have the offense running threw Gasol. Gasol is playing out of position with a team he hasn't been with long and next year he will be playing with a great Center in his proper position with a team he is used to and he is playing against Marcus Camby and look how good he is doing.



but amare is the #1 option on a team that's second best scorer averages 17ppg. gasol will be the #2 option with a really solid #3 & #4 option behind him. i'm not saying his scoring will decrease dramatically, i'm suggesting that he's going to stay around the same or possibly dip a little. i don't see him scoring an extra 5 ppg and pulling down an extra 2 rpg by playing further from the hoop on a team that looks to spread the wealth.

and i think there's a good possibility that the lakers are blowing out teams and resting their starters more next regular season :pray:
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Post#12 » by TonyMontana » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:50 pm

Dexmor wrote:Why can't we?

Gasol is in his prime
Going back to his natural position at the 4
Has a height advantage on everybody but KG and Duncan
Has a speed advantage on everybody at that position but a few
Is playing in the triangle with 3 other stars
One of those other stars is a Center
Will be fully gelled by then
Has a great coach
Will probably be first option threw the first 3 quarters
Has moves like Hakeem plus the sky hook
Never played on a great team before


You tell me with all those things isn't it possible Gasol will be a top 5 pf next year?
Is it possible Bynum will be a top 3-5 C next year?
If Odom keeps it up wouldn't he be the perfect 4th man and top 10 sf?
Is Kobe not the top SG?
Is Phil not the best coach in the league?
Do the Lakers not have one of the best benches and even a 6th man candidate in Farmar?

Lakers could win 70 games no problem if healthy which after the long rest for Bynum and Kobe's surgery they will be.



Honestly Mang your jumping the gun.
Lets get past the next game with the Nuggs and see who we play in the second round , then hoepfully we can get past the second round and to the finals and win the Chip .

Then we can take a break for a few months have a few beers , get mixed up with some hot A55 girls in the summer , Slap some skin here and there and wait for preseason to start.
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Post#13 » by TommyTheCat » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:51 pm

TonyMontana wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Honestly Mang your jumping the gun.
Lets get past the next game with the Nuggs and see who we play in the second round , then hoepfully we can get past the second round and to the finals and win the Chip .

Then we can take a break for a few months have a few beers , get mixed up with some hot A55 girls in the summer , Slap some skin here and there and wait for preseason to start.


why wait for preseason when you can have a dexmor offseason here.............24/7..............just think about it
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Post#14 » by Dexmor » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:12 pm

Blowing out teams and having averages dropping from that is a real possibility I will admit that but I don't see Kobe being the first option that he normally is and scoring 28-30 next year. He knows he can do that at anytime and I see him being more of a super effient scorer who gets 25 points with a career high % and I see them being like Melo and AI were they both score in the high 20s. In the 4th quarter Kobe will be the first option but I see them throwing it into Gasol alot and maybe even Bynum. Odom is a solid option but he is more of a passer who takes high % shots. Bynum is also a high % shooter.
I am not saying it will be exactly like Amare but I think it will be that type of effect and he is a 19 point a game scorer and he has never played next to a guy like Bynum before. Bynum imo will surely add a few points to Gasol and like I said Kobe is gonna be a big passer next year.
The Lakers also have alot of 3 point shooters espially at the pg spot so you know they will want to milk the post and Gasol and Bynum are gonna soak it up.
If Gasol and Bynum average 32 minutes because of blowouts they will be averaging alot of points per 48.
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Post#15 » by Spanishraptor23 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:08 pm

Tommy Trojan wrote:I agree Dexmor
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Post#16 » by hermes » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:15 pm

from the original post, i think it will be the other way around
after seeing how pau played this postseason, more teams will focus on him more than bynum who will be returning from injury
teams aren't going to focus more on bynum(because he is relatively unproven compared to pau) leaving pau free to run wild
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Post#17 » by TonyMontana » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:21 am

TommyTheCat wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



why wait for preseason when you can have a dexmor offseason here.............24/7..............just think about it


Okay on that note , I think Hermes actually brought this up on one of Stars old thread's ......... What are YOU going to dress up for Halloween 2011 ?

I have
08-09 I want to be Rambo part 13 .
09-10 I want to be Batman returns after his third return .
10-11 Im having problems with .
Any idea's ?


Hermes? Your quiet Mang ...........
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Post#18 » by ahwi_quacoe » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:24 am

But why does he play such lazy defense and is not rebounding on the defensive end. The man is 7 ft pretty much. He looks like he is just coasting sometimes.
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Post#19 » by Farsi Man » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:28 am

I think a healthy lakers can win 70 because Kobe is so competitive.

However I think Bynum is the one who will benefit because Gasol is such a great post passer. I think Bynum will lead the leauge in dunks and get like 15-17 PPG
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Post#20 » by cloudXXI » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:28 pm

I don

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