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... this offseason to run the point for us?


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Because he is a restricted FA, which will mean the Lakers will have to shell out a lot of money to get him; money this team doesnt have knowing Odom will have to be resigned and Bynum has to get his extention.

Even if Lakers find a way to shell out the money, im sure ATL will top it.

i like his game too but we dont have enough $

bynum gettin a huge extension dis summer somethin worth 16 mill a year dats too damn much

This guy wouldn't even fit this team.

childress/bryant/odom/gasol/bynum would have great court spacing.

Childress isn't much of a jumpshooter, I'll pass.

dcash4 wrote:childress/bryant/odom/gasol/bynum would have great court spacing.

.. and no bench to speak of considering how much that lineup would ask to be paid.

Did you just say to run the point?

laker15 wrote:bynum gettin a huge extension dis summer somethin worth 16 mill a year dats too damn much

oh jeez...i hope and pray he dont get that much...dude only played 35 games this season..we dont even know if he will be the same again..

hes young, im pretty sure he'll undestand..

The max contract for a player in Bynum's situation will probably be in the 13.5 range, maybe a bit more.

Bynum probably won't get A Howard type deal now with the injury. He will probably settle for 50 million I would hope but getting a sg to play the pg like in Chicago imo is not a good idea. Phil didnt have Jordan play the point or bring up the ball because Pippen was there and Harper was good enough to bring it up. If they got Childress it would be bad because Phil would probably have Kobe bring it up and that wouldn''t be good for Kobe. Childress is not a good enough as a point.
If they were surely keeping Odom there would be no point to get the sg as a pg because they couldn't do the 3 man switch trap anyway because Odom can't guard 2's and pg's. That is the best thing about the big pg is the defensive scheme. If were we to get a big guard I think it should be a Kirk or Devin Harris although those guys would probably be to hard to get.

Also unless we are trading Jordan Farmar which I don't think that is a good idea because his trade value is not very high yet I think he could be a star. I believe he should be the Lakers pg of the future.

Trade wise as long as Bynum is really gonna be 100% which they should wait and see if he is which would be in a couple months then they should get a defensive wing who can penetrate and handle the ball. There are plenty of them like Deng, Iggy, RJ and even guys not as high priced like Dunleavy and more.
If they could sign Gorden for 40 mill or so Nociani and Ben for Odom would be great. I believe the Bulls would pay us alot for Odom.
The best trade we could do is Odom for Artest.

Bynum-Great defender
Gasol- Average defender
Artest-All NBA defense
Kobe-All NBA defense
Farmar-decent defender

If anybody can get past Kobe and Artest on the peremiter then they have to deal with Bynum and Gasol 2 7 footers.

Dexmor wrote:
they should get a defensive wing who can penetrate and handle the ball.

Ok, so is that what we need?

THen why propose to go after Gordon, Nocioni, or Artest?

Gordon = No defense to speak of, likes the perimeter for whatever reason.
Nocioni = Not a ballhandler.
Artest = Settles for too many jumpers, and isnt the best ballhandler.

You guys should start preparing yourself for Artest. I can't imagine they don't trade for him now. Odom can play sf but with Gasol and Bynum they are way better off with a wing sf and with Kobe gonna be 30 they need to have a sf who can guard the better of the 2/3 to give Kobe a break and on top of that Artest is better then Odom but because of his tude he could be had for Odom and maybe even we get a pick (protected of course) but also Artest could be signed for cheaper then the other options. Hell unless Odom is willing to take a paycut I can't imagine we don't trade him for Artest. It makes sence basketball wise it makes sence financially and if any coach and player can make Artest behaive it's Phil and Kobe like Rodman.

that just leaves richard jefferson

Kno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ok, so is that what we need?

THen why propose to go after Gordon, Nocioni, or Artest?

Gordon = No defense to speak of, likes the perimeter for whatever reason.
Nocioni = Not a ballhandler.
Artest = Settles for too many jumpers, and isnt the best ballhandler.

I would have thought that was obvious. Nociani and Gorden aren't those things but combined they are. Gorden can penetrate and Nociani can play the D. A guy who can do both might be to expensive for us like an Iggy. This is idea's if we can't. Together they combine to do those things.
Artest can't handle the ball like a Pippen but he fits the bill of Defender who can take the tough assignments and Farmar can still bring the ball up. Artest might settle for to many jumpers but he can drive it to the hoop when that is what we need.

Dexmor wrote:-= original quote snipped =-





I would have thought that was obvious. Nociani and Gorden aren't those things but combined they are. Gorden can penetrate and Nociani can play the D. A guy who can do both might be to expensive for us like an Iggy. This is idea's if we can't. Together they combine to do those things.
Artest can't handle the ball like a Pippen but he fits the bill of Defender who can take the tough assignments and Farmar can still bring the ball up. Artest might settle for to many jumpers but he can drive it to the hoop when that is what we need.

lol.

If you think thats how easy it is, I wont try to save you.

were in the middle of playoffs, odom playing well, the glue guy and yet...people still propose him in trades....sad...just sad..

Gerald3Wallace wrote:were in the middle of playoffs, odom playing well, the glue guy and yet...people still propose him in trades....sad...just sad..

If Bynum was playing and Odom was playing great at the 3 and Mitch never said he doesn't know about Odom people wouldn't be talking and Kobe was 25 or younger. Kobe is 29 and he is playing in the olympics and with Odom at the sf he is still going to have to have the toughest peremiter guy to guard. Now no matter how good Odom is playing or how much you love Odom we all know that is not good and needs to change. That is why I proposed Kirk because with Kirk Kirk could take the hardest of the guards and Kobe could get a break but I don't see us getting Kirk I see a more likely scenerio of us trading Odom for a more traditional wing and one with good D and considering you can get one of those guys at a cheaper price then Odom (I believe Odom will demand another big deal) like Artest we have to face facts that even though Odom is having one of his best seasons ever it still might make sence to trade him.
A guy like Josh Howard would fit the bill perfectly if he didn't come out about the pot although that could lower his value enough for an Odom Howard deal to come out.

I think I made the list but here it goes again of perfect sf's to put next to Kobe like Pippen to for Jordan. Pippen made Jordans life so much easier and let him take off on D when he needed to and idealy a ballhandling sf to

RJ-Probably to expensive

SJackson-pretty good

Shane Battier-It would make us better although it would make the Rockets to good so we would probably pass but it would make Kobe's life so much easier.

Prince-It's fair but I don't see Pistons letting go

Gerald Wallace- Great move for both if it happened.

Shawn Marion- He would have to take a paycut and I don't think he would.

Granger-Maybe they give him up to get vets?

Deng-Last year this wouldn't have been realistic but the Bulls need a real pf bad and Gooden aint it so it's possible

JSmith-He is more of a pf but can guard anybody.

Artest- Perfect

Diaw-They would have to sweeten the deal with Barbosa

AK- to expensive

Butler- You never know

JRich-Can play sf

Pieutrus-Maybe we could trade Odom and Farmar and whatever else they want for Davis and Pietrus?

Dunleavy-His D and handling are superiorly underrated

Iggy-He is holding out for money so maybe? This guy fits as perfect as RJ, he is a Bruce Bowen on defense and has many pg skills. Has potential to be as good as Joe Johnson.

And like I said if they can't get the perfect sf to help Kobe they could do a Odom for Gorden and Noc and I think Noc can guard sg's and take the tough assignment.

almost all those guys u listed rarely passes..