Trade with Chicago

[NDave79]

Hey all,
I posted this trade idea on the bulls board and the trade board, but was curious if anyone here might have any thoughts about it.

My trade idea involves Chicago and the Lakers.

Heading to Chicago - Bynum, Radmonovic, and Fisher

Heading to the Lakers - Hinrich and Noah(maybe a 1st next year as well).

I'm pretty sure this trade would work with the CBA after Hinrich loses his base year status. Also, I'm assuming that Derrick Rose is the draft pick.

Why for the Lakers

The Lakers are having a lot of success right now without Bynum. I would say right now they have the best chance to win the championship of the 4 remaining teams. I've thought for a while that Bynum and Gasol might not be a great fit. Defensively, I think both are best at the center position and being the primary post defender. Together they would be an incredibly long tandem, but I think they might struggle against quick, athletic frontlines. I realize it's a different situation, but Gasol and Darko (who I feel has a similar size and athleticiscm as Bynum) did not seem like a good match. Also, both are most effective receiving the ball in the low post.

This move would help the lakers tremedously financially and probably allow them to keep Odom (who Kupchak seemed to hint might not be their longterm). They wouldn't have to worry about extending Bynum. Noah is on a rookie salary for 3 or 4 more years and Hinrich has a descending salary.

I think Noah would be an excellent fit with the Gasol and the Lakers. He is an athletic 7footer with a winners attitude. He is an very good defender (especially help defense) and rebounder. He has a very high Basketball IQ and is a gifted passer and ball handler. His focus on winning, hustling, defense, rebounding and being unselfish would be a great fit with Kobe, Odom, and Gasol.

Hinrich would also be an excellent fit. Next to Kobe, Odom, and Gasol his average creating skills would be just fine. He could focus on getting back to his all NBA caliber defense and hitting his three (which he shot over 40% 2 years ago). I think I remember Kobe saying that he liked Hinrich and would like to play next to him. His age would fit in well with Kobe, Gasol, and Odom.

Why for the Bulls

If the Bulls draft Rose, Hinrich is expendable. I really like Noah (and will be content with him as the bulls center for the next 10 years) but Bynum would be a much better fit IMO. First off, he is a real, legitimate center. He has a big, wide body and can bang with the best in the league. I'm not convinced that Noah will ever be able to effectively match up with the big physical centers in the league such as Howard, Ming, Odon, Bynum, Etc. He is developing into a nice low post option that can pass. In the future, I think him and Tyrus would make for a very good combo on the interior. Bynum would be the primary post defender and post up option, while Tyrus would focus on help side defense and operating in the high post utilizing his quickness, ball handling, and developing jumper.

I think Fisher would be a nice mentor for Rose. He is old enough that he wouldn't be threatened by Rose taking over. I'm not sure who would be the starter on opening night, but I would assume by at least next season Rose would be the starter and Fisher could be a good backup.

If the Bulls did pull off this trade, I would advicate trading Noc for an expiring, since radmanovic has a similar game and the Bulls would need some salary relief to avoid the luxary tax if they also resigned Luol and Gordon.

[15cmngsoon]

Worst trade proposal I've heard in a very long time. Bynum is the future of the franchise.

[kno]

Not tryna be too harsh, but this is probably the worst serious trade proposal i've ever seen. I know that phrase is thrown out a lot, but this time, i'm 100% serious.

Not only does this team value FIsher a LOT more than it would Hinrich (FIsher is one of the fev veterans this team has, he's a top-locker room guy, and mentors both Sasha and Farmar), but Hinrich's skillset isnt needed here.

All Lakers need out of the PG is outside shooting and defense, where Fisher is proven to be superior to Hinrich.

Bynum and Noah? Dont get me started. Future star against bench rookie? I'll leave it at that.

[snaquille oatmeal]

Not tryna be too harsh, but this is probably the worst serious trade proposal i've ever seen. I know that phrase is thrown out a lot, but this time, i'm 100% serious.

Not only does this team value FIsher a LOT more than it would Hinrich (FIsher is one of the fev veterans this team has, he's a top-locker room guy, and mentors both Sasha and Farmar), but Hinrich's skillset isnt needed here.

All Lakers need out of the PG is outside shooting and defense, where Fisher is proven to be superior to Hinrich.

Bynum and Noah? Dont get me started. Future star against bench rookie? I'll leave it at that.

+1 and I would also like to add in a **** no! as well.

[Erik Eleven]

I kind of stopped reading at Bynum, but took a quick look at what must be one of the worst trade suggestions in a very long time.

Bynum is a complete beast, a future perennial all-star, a true back to the basket defensive center with mega smarts, excellent footwork, great handles, great court vision, soft hands, excellent passing skills, thunderous finisher. Oh yeah, and he has a wing span of 7'6".

Why on earth would we trade him for the thug brat that is Joaquim Noah who is not even half as talented in any aspect of the game, nor physically? To get the choke job that is Kirk Hinrich? When we already have Fisher and Farmar?

Take that crap out of here. I'd do Deng and Derrick Rose for for Radmanovic. How do you feel about that suggestion? I'll let you answer, then I'll lock this garbage of a thread.

[SashAlex]

This is just terrible !

[Kirk Moon]

i think its actually not bad.







































nah, its horrible.

[CBS7]

What I never understood with Bynum trades is that the Lakers can/will win the championship this year, without Bynum. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[LLcoleJ]

Former Florida Gator and current Chicago Bull Joakim Noah was cited by police early Sunday morning on a misdemeanor charge of possession of less than 20 grams of cannabis, according to Gainesville Police on-line records.

Noah was also cited for possession of an open container of alcohol. The arrest occurred around 1:50 a.m. on the 100 block of South Main Street, an area of downtown where several bars are located.

The Gainesville Sun is reporting that Gainesville police found a cannabis cigarette in Noah's pocket after spotting him with the open container.

[snaquille oatmeal]

What I never understood with Bynum trades is that the Lakers can/will win the championship this year, without Bynum. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Turiaf is a natural PF, so who would the Lakers rather have comming off the bench to C position Mbenga or Bynum? there is always room for improvement when in search of perfection. besides Bynum is a great safety net in case of injuries not to mention that he is more than capable of staring at center. Manu will have no chance at defending the six man of the year award next season.

[Erik Eleven]

What I never understood with Bynum trades is that the Lakers can/will win the championship this year, without Bynum. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

First of all, the Lakers haven't won squat yet. Secondly,

All due respect, but if you could have added a young Olajuwan or Shaq to the Chicago Bulls championship dynasty teams, you wouldn't? Just because they won without him? That doesn't make much sense to me. In my opinion, you must take every opportunity you can to get better, no matter how good you are already.

[LLcoleJ]

What I never understood with Bynum trades is that the Lakers can/will win the championship this year, without Bynum. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Now, thats silly.

No question we are playing well. Adding a another good player to that mix would only help.Bynum will help us alot in 2 categories we struggle in. Rebounding and defense. The presence of Bynum being a shot blocker and or shot alterer would help this team out 10 fold.

Now. lets play the devild advocate for a moment. And say we were to trade Bynum. It wont be for Hinrich and Noah. Bynum is still a big chip that will demand more than that.

He is also a huge part of our future so back to reality, he goes nowhere.

[incontrol__]

At first i thought he (CBS7) meant it was silly to trade Bynum by that post.

Reading it again though it does seem as though he's making the same point you guys think he is...

My reading comprehension ftl, i guess.

[dockingsched]

i thought CBS7 meant that there is no reason for the lakers to trade bynum. lakers are a title contender without him, so adding him will only make them better. lakers don't need to make any other moves.

[snaquille oatmeal]

btw it looks pretty cool with all the locals rock the same sig

[LLcoleJ]

Yes, I guess some of us are split on what CBS7 posted. It can be interperated either way, I suppose. No biggie.

Either way-- Bynum = Lakers.

[incontrol__]

Yes, I guess some of us are split on what CBS7 posted. It can be interperated either way, I suppose. No biggie.

Either way-- Bynum = Lakers.

Yep, i was going to make a point to the OP that if the Odom-Gasol-Bynum frontline weren't to work, then Odom and Gasol would be the ones to go -- not Bynum, since he's considered to be our future franchise player. I figured i wouldn't though since everyone else had already jumped on the dude.

[CBS7]

i thought CBS7 meant that there is no reason for the lakers to trade bynum. lakers are a title contender without him, so adding him will only make them better. lakers don't need to make any other moves.

That is what I meant.

Why would they trade Bynum for marginal improvements at other positions when they might already win the title without those marginal improvements? Bynum can and will do a whole lot more for the Lakers then those small improvements and for a lot longer.

[Gerald3Wallace]

farmar + vlad for this years 1st and a filler

exactly...horrible trade

[doozyj]

Joakin Noah = Scrub, Garbage, Cancer, complete Waste.
Kirk Hinrich = Garbage
Bynum = NBA's next most dominate player and Lakers next Franchise player. Plus Laker fans love Bynum and want to see him paired up with Gasol and will pay big dollars to fill the seats and buy merchandise. Who the hell would buy a Hinrich jersey, let alone a Noah jersey?

Not sure about your proposal, first you say if they Bulls draft Rose, Hinrich is expendable (meaming Bulls keep Rose), then you say Fisher would be a good mentor for Rose. So would he stay or not. Regardless, trade idea just plain sucks. Anyhow I think Farmar is coming along nicely and will improve next year.

Maybe this trade will work for Mihm and Newble and a couple of free Jack in the Box tacos.