Regardless of who we play we need to change the lineup

[Dexmor]

In my opinion. The Spurs had Bowen at the sf which is not a scoring threat so it was o.k. to start him but neither Odom or Radman can cover the sf for either team Prince or Pierce.
Sasha should start so Kobe doesn't have to guard Prince and Rip or Allen and Pierce. If Sasha starts he can stick Pierce or Allen or Rip or Prince.
I think that would be a much better lineup.

Gasol
Odom
Sasha
Kobe
Fisher

Am I wrong and missing something? I know with Radman we have a height advantage but still.

[TonyMontana]

In my opinion. The Spurs had Bowen at the sf which is not a scoring threat so it was o.k. to start him but neither Odom or Radman can cover the sf for either team Prince or Pierce.
Sasha should start so Kobe doesn't have to guard Prince and Rip or Allen and Pierce. If Sasha starts he can stick Pierce or Allen or Rip or Prince.
I think that would be a much better lineup.

Gasol
Odom
Sasha
Kobe
Fisher

Am I wrong and missing something? I know with Radman we have a height advantage but still.

Your wrong Star.

[TommyTheCat]

yeah, we're only 12-3 in playoffs.............8-0 at home.........4-3 on the road.......3-0 in closeout games (2 on the road)


somethings not going right so we should fix it

[TonyMontana]

yeah, we're only 12-3 in playoffs.............8-0 at home.........4-3 on the road.......3-0 in closeout games (2 on the road)


somethings not going right so we should fix it

SUP Tommy ........

[Slava]

Unlike Ginobli, you know Pierce can post up right?

[Dexmor]

Why? It wouldn't be better to have Sasha on those guys? If I am wrong which is possible please tell me why.

By the way Jordan Farmar looked like he is gonna be a star last night. If he plays like that all finals him and Fisher will outplay either pg's.

[That Nicka]

In my opinion. The Spurs had Bowen at the sf which is not a scoring threat so it was o.k. to start him but neither Odom or Radman can cover the sf for either team Prince or Pierce.
Sasha should start so Kobe doesn't have to guard Prince and Rip or Allen and Pierce. If Sasha starts he can stick Pierce or Allen or Rip or Prince.
I think that would be a much better lineup.

Gasol
Odom
Sasha
Kobe
Fisher

Am I wrong and missing something? I know with Radman we have a height advantage but still.

I have to see the first game first, but I agree with you Star

Assume we play the Celtics. Paul Pierce will absolutely destroy Radman.... And I dont like the idea of Kobe chasing Ray Allen around off of screens all day... I dunno what kind of condition Trevor Ariza is in, but I might consider starting him at SF to defend Pierce...

If Trevor cant give us a solid contribution or Pierce starts to go crazy then I might consider starting Sasha to chase around Ray Allen, and put Kobe on Pierce (which is a last resort)

I dont think KG is as good a defender as Duncan, and Pau will not struggle against KG the way he did against Duncan... I hope I am right about this assessment

[Dexmor]

I was gonna say Ariza needs to play alot of minutes to against Pierce. Kobe should not be guarding Ray Allen for 1 minute of this series. It is all about running around chasing him and Kobe sometimes doesn't sit the second half. Sasha needs to guard Ray and I am aware Pierce can post but Kobe can guard the post.
Kobe should guard Prince although it's possible Radman can guard Prince to some extent.
As long as Sasha and Ariza get extended minutes at the wing positions they will be fine but they need to do that.
Odom can guard Pierce and Prince but for some reason I think he might get into foul trouble.

[TommyTheCat]

Why? It wouldn't be better to have Sasha on those guys? If I am wrong which is possible please tell me why.

By the way Jordan Farmar looked like he is gonna be a star last night. If he plays like that all finals him and Fisher will outplay either pg's.

sasha's going to get plenty of game time no matter who's officially in the starting lineup. if matchups determine that someone needs to be on the floor, then phil will make the adjustments. regardless, the starting lineup is not going to dictate who gets the majority of minutes.

[TommyTheCat]

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SUP Tommy ........

have you been busy lately? haven't seen you post as much in the last week or so. hope everything's ok with you

[TonyMontana]

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have you been busy lately? haven't seen you post as much in the last week or so. hope everything's ok with you

Thanks for asking Mang .....

I've been busy at work and a few other personal matters but its all good .
I still creeped here and there and posted a few but Im back Mang.
How about you Mang ?

I saw J-far got his Mod badge ONNN I missed this board a few days and a lot has happened ........But good looking out Tommy.

As far as Stars thread I wouldnt change a thing , why fix it if it aint broke.....

[Dexmor]

I want to play the Pistons more then the Celtics but we do have 1 big thing playing the Celtics and that is the fact that Gasol always plays KG very well. KG is used to being longer then everybody and when he plays Gasol he won't have that advantage.
Is there a thread already made (I don't want to make 1 if there is on who is better for us to play Pistons or Celtics)

[TyCobb]

I think Ariza needs to be the starting SF to guard either Hamilton or Pierce, depending on who we play. Get Vlad and his offense coming off the bench with the rest of the mob.

[TonyMontana]

(I don't want to make 1 if there is on who is better for us to play Pistons or Celtics)

No No were cool Star ............. We already have one going on .

It actually turned out to be the Parade thread by Garcia3 ......

He's the official OG Triple O.G Parade organizer ........... and Snaq is bringing the kool-aid and Im bringing the strippers and the Stripper Pole ..........

So were cool Mang ...no need for another thread right now.

[hermes]

we need to start vlad, he's always on fire in the first quarter, we can't waste that

[pl]

I want to play the Pistons more then the Celtics but we do have 1 big thing playing the Celtics and that is the fact that Gasol always plays KG very well. KG is used to being longer then everybody and when he plays Gasol he won't have that advantage.
Is there a thread already made (I don't want to make 1 if there is on who is better for us to play Pistons or Celtics)

I think the Celtics can not put Perkins on Odom, because he is not quick enough. Hence KG will cover Odom, while Perkins defends Gasol.
The Lakers might very well want touse the same defensive matchups, because Odom is not strong enough to defend Perkins.

As intriguing as it would be, I don't think we'll see much of the Gasol-KG matchup.

[Dexmor]

I found the Pistons or Celtics post anyway.

I used to question Phil all the time but after seeing us comeback from a 17 point lead and leaving the top 3 scorers on the bench and we won I am like you and I just think in Phil we trust. So the following of my points of why Phil should change his starting lineup is not more of Phil is making a mistake but more of a tell me what I am missing because this is how I see it but I must be wrong if Phil thinks I am.



So let me ask you this guys do any of you think besides hermes
Radman should be starting?
He is not a good defensive player at all. Sasha is. Sasha is also 6'7 and can play sf easy and Kobe can play sf and maybe even be better at sf then sg and Sasha can play sg.
Whenever the Lakers go down and they come back it always seems that Radman is out and Sasha is in.
Also if you take out Radman you give alot more minutes to Farmar who is probably our 5th-7th best player. Farmar backs up Fisher who is getting into foul trouble so Farmar would get alot of more time.
Kobe could rest in the 4th because at least I feel safe with Sasha and so should Phil.
Sasha is a better 3 point shooter then Radman and the Lakers always do better with a 3 guard lineup then anything so why not

Gasol
Odom
Kobe
Sasha
Fisher

Bench

Farmar
Radman
Ronny
Ariza
Luke

I personally think Luke is better then Radman and I think Sasha is better then Luke and Radman.

Also playoffs are all about matchups. If we play Sasha in the starting 5 we have 3 wings and 2 bigs just like the opposition and we don't have to put Radman on a scorer.
IMO the order of the best Lakers goes like this (not including Bynum because I am not talking next year)

Kobe
Gasol
Odom
Fisher
Sasha
Farmar (Farmar in the long run will surpass Sasha)
Luke
Radman
Ronny
Ariza

I believe with Sasha shooting like a machine and over 40% from 3 and the fact that he gets you 8 points in 21 minutes and plays good D if he started he would be a 14 point a game scorer which is huge espially when Odom is having one of his 10 point games.

[CX44]

I think the Lakers will put Vlad on Ray Allen and Kobe on Pierce. Odom is to small to guard Perkins for long periods of time.

[That Nicka]

I think the Lakers will put Vlad on Ray Allen and Kobe on Pierce. Odom is to small to guard Perkins for long periods of time.

Ray Allen will run circles around Vlad, and Paul Pierce will post up Kobe like he always does when they play

[Dexmor]

Exactly. How can Radman possibly guard Pierce. Manu was hurt so he could guard him some of the time but there gonna let Pierce got red hot in the finals who is clutch if they put Radman on him. I would start Ariza because he has been out of the fold for to long but I would have him as the first guy off the bench at the 3 and I would put Kobe at the sf spot so Pierce couldn't post him and so Kobe doesn't have to run around and guard Allen. Sasha is the absolute perfect sf/sg to start with Kobe and these Lakers.
If somehow the Lakers can trade Odom for Davis assuming Bynum comes back for real then there lineup should still be

Bynum
Gasol
Sasha
Kobe
Davis

Although I am starting to think when Farmar is in his 4th year he will be like on the T.J. Ford Raymond Felton level. He has a chance at least.