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Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 6:30 am
by Minhee
Watching this video again really pisses me off...clearly the jail gangstas were the ones acting like the thugs and trying to act all tough yet listen to their idiotic announcers. They were saying BS such as "Odom is trying to intimidate the Blazers and our guys are not having it...." "Boy the Blazers are growing up fast, don't back down guys." I don't listen to very many announcers aside from the Lakers, but are the Blazers this bias? Are they just that pathetic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ZN2KOa ... re=relatedThey called this one a cheap shot and acting like Odom was the thug...I thought it was clean foul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsNDzEr0aQHere is classless Blazers fans but got what was coming to them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5DxWmX6 ... re=relatedwow now I really hate the Blazers just because of their fans and stupid announcers.
Ok offseason is slow so I thought i bring some intensity to some of you guys. or maybe not.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 6:46 am
by HitMan52
To me it looked like Odom pushed off with his right hand. But the fall made it worse than what it was.
Regarding the fans they do what they do. Fans should be rude and annoying to the opponents I know I would.
And regarding announcers all of them are bias. Some more biased than others but they will seem more biased when they are playing your favorite team.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 7:00 am
by Minhee
HitMan52 wrote:but they will seem more biased when they are playing your favorite team.
Actually that is not true at all....I recall the Sacramento Kings announcers being very classy in their season finale against the Lakers. They have even mroe reasons to be bias against the Lakers but they called the game pretty much just how we all saw the game. Come on now, you are going to say that they were not ridiculously stupid by saying Odom was trying to punk them? Look how Jarrett Jack acted towards odom. Odom may be many things but intimidating someone is not something he can do even if he tries. Jack and Aldridge were the idiots trying to act gangsta just because of their team's reputation. And as for that comments about "Blazers are growing up fast.." Never heard anything remotely bigger BS than that. Growing up in what ways? To join the likes of Randolph, Shawn kemp, Mighty mouse, Bonzi Wells, etc.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:11 am
by HitMan52
Minhee wrote:HitMan52 wrote:but they will seem more biased when they are playing your favorite team.
Actually that is not true at all....I recall the Sacramento Kings announcers being very classy in their season finale against the Lakers. They have even mroe reasons to be bias against the Lakers but they called the game pretty much just how we all saw the game. Come on now, you are going to say that they were not ridiculously stupid by saying Odom was trying to punk them? Look how Jarrett Jack acted towards odom. Odom may be many things but intimidating someone is not something he can do even if he tries. Jack and Aldridge were the idiots trying to act gangsta just because of their team's reputation. And as for that comments about "Blazers are growing up fast.." Never heard anything remotely bigger BS than that. Growing up in what ways? To join the likes of Randolph, Shawn kemp, Mighty mouse, Bonzi Wells, etc.
I thought Kings announcers are one of the most biased annoncers that you can find especially with their cheesy catch phrases like "if you dont like that you dont like kings basketball." Now I hate Grant Napear even more because he is the play by play man for the Raiders pre-season games. Then you have Jerry Reynolds and his lame nicknames like Bibbylicious and now they use K-Mart for Kevin Martin which is a dumb nickname and it is also already taken.
Im no Kings or Laker fan but I do live in California so I watch every Kings game that I can but man sometimes I have to put them on mute or listen to music while I watch the games. I dont watch Laker games unless natinally televised so I dont know how bad/good your announcers are.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 3:08 pm
by Gek
It's hometown bias, the Wizards announcers are like that... it's what the fans want to hear and it stirs up everyone in a good way to rally for the team.
This video gave me a chuckle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcOl2zs9 ... re=related
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 4:54 pm
by Gerald3Wallace
omg i hated watching the blazers hosting the lakers
if u gonna be bias dont make it too damn obvious..
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 5:39 pm
by BballFanAddict
What should motivate the Lakers and their fans is the fact that they are only second to the Clippers of having the worst record in the Rose Garden. The Lakers simply cannot win in Portland.
As Phil Jackson has said, maybe its the rain.
In all actuality, I foresee the Blazers and Laker's games heating up immensely in the future; next year the Lakers will clearly be the better team, but the Blazers will close the gap quickly with experience.
Glad to hear Bynum is recovering. There should be some great match ups with Bynum and Oden.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 5:59 pm
by mojomarc
Wow--"jail gangstas"??? That's so 2003.

All in all, though, I agree with your point and I'm very much in the minority among Portland fans on the Odom "confrontation." I was watching the Lakers' broadcast on League Pass that night, and it sure looked to me like Jarrett Jack instigated the whole thing and Odom merely reacted. I said so at the time in the game thread and defended my position in about 20 posts. Odom wasn't really involved in the original play and it looked to me from the Lakers' broadcast that Jack went searching for someone to bark at and Odom happened to be the closest to him.
As for the Blazers' announcers, I think they're among the worst in the league and I'm a huge Blazers fan. They're not worst for entertainment value, but they are the worst for actually describing the games with any accuracy. I wouldn't hold it against them too much--after all, they're hired to basically broadcast to Blazers' fans. At least they're not as bad as the Denver broadcasters who call travelling every single time down the court for the other team. They're not even entertaining, just whiny.
I don't get the "classless fans" comment, though. Fans should ride players from the other team. That's part of what makes for a home court advantage. If fans didn't do that, you may as well give up that advantage. Plus, this is what rivalries are made of, and it looks like Portland and LA are looking to once again be one of the most competitive rivalries in the league starting next year and for a while thereafter. I'm looking forward to us beating you guys a bunch, that's for sure

Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 6:11 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
the portland and Celtics annoucers have always had a tad extra homer in them.
this chart was floating around a few months ago.
http://7gameseries.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/nba_announcer_chart.jpg
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 6:49 pm
by dockingsched
its always funny when blazers fans talk about their dislike for odom. guess most of them aren't aware of their announcers lack of objectivity. you'd think they be smart enough to notice.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 7:59 pm
by superBlazerFan
every one who has ever heard the blazers annoucers knows not to pay attention to them.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 8:21 pm
by ShowtimeFan
Future battles?..................sure why not!
Blazers POTENTIAL?..............YES, tons of it
BUT, how about they make the Playoffs before comparing themselves to the Lakers!
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 8:45 pm
by DEEP3CL
The Laker & Blazer battles will be classic, but the Blazers need to make the playoff first an actually win a series before we can compare the two teams. I very confident that when the time does come when the teams meet in a playoff series that the Lakers can win in the Rose Garden.
And on the other hand the Blazer suck just as bad in Staples Center.
Another note on the Blazers, they have accumulated so much talent in a short period of time they will be hard pressed to keep the harmony on that team down the line. When you have so many guys that know they can play it's only a matter of time when the personal side of things take over. I've seen the Blazers story over and over again and I already know the out come, for me I just need to see who stays and who goes.
Good luck to the fans of the Blazers because "greed" is UNDEFEATED.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:02 pm
by Minhee
mojomarc wrote:Wow--"jail gangstas"??? That's so 2003.

All in all, though, I agree with your point and I'm very much in the minority among Portland fans on the Odom "confrontation." I was watching the Lakers' broadcast on League Pass that night, and it sure looked to me like Jarrett Jack instigated the whole thing and Odom merely reacted. I said so at the time in the game thread and defended my position in about 20 posts. Odom wasn't really involved in the original play and it looked to me from the Lakers' broadcast that Jack went searching for someone to bark at and Odom happened to be the closest to him.
As for the Blazers' announcers, I think they're among the worst in the league and I'm a huge Blazers fan. They're not worst for entertainment value, but they are the worst for actually describing the games with any accuracy. I wouldn't hold it against them too much--after all, they're hired to basically broadcast to Blazers' fans. At least they're not as bad as the Denver broadcasters who call travelling every single time down the court for the other team. They're not even entertaining, just whiny.
I don't get the "classless fans" comment, though. Fans should ride players from the other team. That's part of what makes for a home court advantage. If fans didn't do that, you may as well give up that advantage. Plus, this is what rivalries are made of, and it looks like Portland and LA are looking to once again be one of the most competitive rivalries in the league starting next year and for a while thereafter. I'm looking forward to us beating you guys a bunch, that's for sure

Pretty good post, I didn't really expect such class from a Blazers fan. Nice to know there are some good Blazers fans out there.
The "Jail Gangsta" comment was directed in response to the idiotic comment from your commentators. They were ragging on Odom as if he was the thug yet it was Jarrett Jack that was trying to act like he was a gangsta barking all over the floor and Odom was walking away the entire time while Jack was trying to go after him. Aldridge trying to act like he was tough was also a funny scene. He is so lucky that Kwame Brown wasn't involved at all. The statement about "the Blazers are growing up fast." ......yeah a bunch of your young guys running around acting thuggish in a basketball court is real mature. Your team is about to blow a lead on the road while your young PG and young PF wants to fight is a sign of growing up. I guess your announcers are more into intimidation, they may want to apply for another job.
the classless fan remark was nothing personal. It was just fans chanting to have a good time and to throw off the road team. I just said that just to say it on my part. But it was nice to see Kobe getting the last laugh. Action always override 20,000 people's opinion.
Hey rivalry are fun in sports, all of us here enjoyed beating you guys in the 91 season 4-2, we definitely loved the 2000 season beating you in 7 games, of course sweeping you guys the year after was also very fun. =)
I can assure you one thing, Chick Hearn and Stu lantz NEVER EVER said anything idiotic during any Laker altercation. As a matter of fact, chick would call out own guys "idiots" if they instigated some type of fight or a stupid foul. As lame as Joel Myers is right now, even he doesn't come close to the Blazers announcers of "WOW the Lakers are growing up fast because they want to fight" or "wow they are trying to scare us so we need to fight back and show our thuggish side." I just thought it was hilarious listening at how inaccurate the Blazers announcers are. its one thing to broadcast to your own fans, it is another to maintain your on air professionalism. I guess not many talented mature professional applied for that position.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 10:08 pm
by Tommy Trojan
These Blazers announcers should be shot! Pathetic, just pathetic.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 10:31 pm
by BballFanAddict
I positively do not understand one iota why any of you complain about obvious announcer biases. THEY ARE PORTLAND ANNOUNCERS. Not only are they Portland announcers, they also happen to be HUGE Blazer fans. Of course they are going to be biased. It is to be expected. They are hired and paid for by the Blazer organization. How hard is this to figure out?
Also, Mike Rice and Mike Barret happen to understand Portland's "hate" of the Lakers, so it is funny and entertaining to us Blazer fans when they make comments about Kobe whining; Phil being on his "throne"; Phil begging for calls; Odom being a "thug"; etcetera. Of course the "hate" Portland has for the Lakers is derived from jealousy and due to the Lakers' success both verses Portland and in the league. Oh, and because most everyone seems to think Kobe is a POS as a person.
With regards to the "thuggish" and "intimidation" comments from the announcers, they are absolutely correct, these concepts are 100% applicable and contribute a great deal to the psyche of the team. Go ask the Celtics fans if intimidation and brash tactics are important. KG seems to be one of the best at it. You have to understand that the Blazers are VERY young, and a lot of these guys grew up idolizing Kobe, Odom, KG, and so on; so it can be difficult for them to keep the mindset that they must compete against these guys and not back down. This is what was meant by the Blazers' announcers, and they are 100% correct.
For those of you who do not know, Mike Rice was a very well respected east coast college coach, so I think he knows a little more about these concepts than the realgm fans who post here.
Lastly, that foul by Odom was not intentional, it was more about how Roy landed than anything else. Also, Odom later apologized to Roy, and made it known to him that he was not trying to hurt Roy. As far as who's fault it was about the most recent altercation, NONE of us know the truth of the matter because NONE of us were on the floor. So stop trying to say who did what, because the fact is NONE of us have a clue.
Good luck next year. For the Lakers' sake, I guess you all must pray Bynum can return at 100%, and that he is the answer to turning around the Laker ole defense.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 11:36 pm
by LLcoleJ
BballFanAddict wrote:I positively do not understand one iota why any of you complain about obvious announcer biases. THEY ARE PORTLAND ANNOUNCERS. Not only are they Portland announcers, they also happen to be HUGE Blazer fans. Of course they are going to be biased. It is to be expected. They are hired and paid for by the Blazer organization. How hard is this to figure out?
Also, Mike Rice and Mike Barret happen to understand Portland's "hate" of the Lakers, so it is funny and entertaining to us Blazer fans when they make comments about Kobe whining; Phil being on his "throne"; Phil begging for calls; Odom being a "thug"; etcetera. Of course the "hate" Portland has for the Lakers is derived from jealousy and due to the Lakers' success both verses Portland and in the league. Oh, and because most everyone seems to think Kobe is a POS as a person.
You can take a poll on the GB and between the Celtics and Blazers announcers they would be up there amongst the leagues most annoying. There are plenty of anouncerns who can be huge team fans and still not add fuel to the fire with some comments and or commentary.
Dont sit here and tell us this laundry list of reasons why ( which are pretty much the same for all announcers and their teams they work for) and expect us to ..say ... ok, I see.. your announcers are huge fans and they are paid by the blazers--we should let that go and enjoy them. We dont like them.
How hard is that to understand?
( side note: when I did my time in Portland I used to play ball with the Mike Barret cat at club sport. One trick pony -- he camps out at the 3)
With regards to the "thuggish" and "intimidation" comments from the announcers, they are absolutely correct, these concepts are 100% applicable and contribute a great deal to the psyche of the team. Go ask the Celtics fans if intimidation and brash tactics are important. KG seems to be one of the best at it. You have to understand that the Blazers are VERY young, and a lot of these guys grew up idolizing Kobe, Odom, KG, and so on; so it can be difficult for them to keep the mindset that they must compete against these guys and not back down. This is what was meant by the Blazers' announcers, and they are 100% correct.
For those of you who do not know, Mike Rice was a very well respected east coast college coach, so I think he knows a little more about these concepts than the realgm fans who post here.
OK
Lastly, that foul by Odom was not intentional, it was more about how Roy landed than anything else. Also, Odom later apologized to Roy, and made it known to him that he was not trying to hurt Roy. As far as who's fault it was about the most recent altercation, NONE of us know the truth of the matter because NONE of us were on the floor. So stop trying to say who did what, because the fact is NONE of us have a clue.
thanks.
Good luck next year. For the Lakers' sake, I guess you all must pray Bynum can return at 100%, and that he is the answer to turning around the Laker ole defense.
I guess you must be praying too.
Good thing about our praying is that we have proved to be a contender without Bynum.
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 12:19 am
by That Nicka
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=815086&start=0This is enough reason for me to dislike the Blazers and their fans
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 1:34 am
by Rox_Nix_Nox
Mike rice is the worst color analyst in the history of basketball. Hear him make up stuff too like when he says "there's a rumor out in L.A. that the Lakers can bully the blazers." That guy is unprofessional
Re: Some reasons to look forward to future battles with Portland
Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 3:19 am
by BballFanAddict
Phil 2.0.
I never misunderstood the fact you guys hate the Portland announcers, nor am I ingnorant as to why you hate them. I just do not understand why it comes as a surprise to anyone that they are Blazer homers and that they dislike LA. If I were a Laker fan I'd hate them, too. But, then again, if I were a Laker fan I would NEVER listen to them - I would turn on the game, mute it, and listen to the radio play by play instead. As a matter of fact, that IS what I do instead of listening to the homers abroad.
Ha. That's funny you've played b-ball with Mike Barret. My brother played on his city league team; and you're right, he does just camp the 3 point line. He is like a James Jones or Vujacic (have no clue how to spell Sasha's name) - without the actual makes.
