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MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:17 pm
by FLIPT
enough of the bad locker room guy stuff.thats phil and kobe's job.we need someone beside kobe who can CREATE a shot outside of the offense.someone who can torch the 3rd tier RONDOS! OF THE WORLD.He's good friends with kobe,and he should be hungry after being released for a 3rd tier guy in Duhon.phil likes vets.Fisher sold me out in the Finals.i like options.take mihm to a landfill and resign Kwame,at least he can defend the post.all the rejects that were in FA last season except reggie miller danny ainge signed.wow!look at the result.pj"do-do"brown owned us in the finals!im a UNC guy KUP.DO IT FOR DEAN!!!!

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:22 pm
by bynumite120
how the hell will we make a trade for him. he makes 20+million a year we would have to math the salaries

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:25 pm
by FLIPT
donnie walsh will probably buy him out in the next few weeks thats why they got duhon.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:31 pm
by FLIPT

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:46 pm
by kno
Great. Another non-defense playing, big ego player. Just what we need.

The man couldnt find playing time on one of the worst rosters ever. Chris Freakin Duhoin is replacing him.

Im not sure thats exactly what we need.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 9:52 pm
by Minhee
No way we go for him.....I think we are pretty content with our PG position, we might get a 3rd stringer who is quick and defensive minded. Highly doubt Phil will go after another starting 1 guard.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 5, 2008 10:03 pm
by Tommy Trojan
OH hell no. NO NO NO PLS GO AWAY!!!

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 12:21 am
by That Nicka
lol

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 1:26 am
by RJM
FLIPT wrote:enough of the bad locker room guy stuff.thats phil and kobe's job.we need someone beside kobe who can CREATE a shot outside of the offense.someone who can torch the 3rd tier RONDOS! OF THE WORLD.He's good friends with kobe,and he should be hungry after being released for a 3rd tier guy in Duhon.phil likes vets.Fisher sold me out in the Finals.i like options.take mihm to a landfill and resign Kwame,at least he can defend the post.all the rejects that were in FA last season except reggie miller danny ainge signed.wow!look at the result.pj"do-do"brown owned us in the finals!im a UNC guy KUP.DO IT FOR DEAN!!!!


Seriously, can you re-post this in RealGM quality? I can't read this crap.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 3:29 am
by Mamba Venom
Marbury is a HUGE expiring contract... the biggest in history! Why not go after him? The Lakers could get out of any bad contracts the team has.

Bury + buyout for Vlad & maybe Walton depending if you think he is overpaid too

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 3:49 am
by Gek
Stephon "Starbury" Marbury and Stevie "Franchise" Francis star in - TEAMKILLERS!

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 4:28 am
by Squirrel Boy
Kno wrote:Great. Another non-defense playing, big ego player. Just what we need.

The man couldnt find playing time on one of the worst rosters ever. Chris Freakin Duhoin is replacing him.

Im not sure thats exactly what we need.


OK here we go with that crap.

I've been in New York and have been watching Knicks basketball all my life. All that ish you hear is crap,

Marbury is a really good person and a better captain. He is the leader of the team and helps his young boys out when they are in need.

He hasn't been put in the best of situations lately and he receives negative media attention to that.

I love the guy. He is the team. The idiotic staff and Isiah Thomas ruined the team for him and he couldn't do anything about it. They never should have traded Van Horn for Tim Thomas to begin with. A Marbury/Houston/Van Horn combo would have been solid and consistent. However, that was the beginning of many other horrible trades to come. Also, think about it this way, we would have been in the 2nd round in 06 because Tim Thomas was whatever team he was in back then.

Starbury is a two way player. He can give you offense and defense night in and night out. He is one of the most balanced point guards in the game. He is 6'3", 210 pounds of pure muscle and is wall. He can hold any 1, 2, or 3 in the post. He is a very strong player. And his offensive savvy, I dont have to say anything about it, he has shown you enough to know yourself.

However, with all that said, I doubt we get him because of his paycheck. Unless he gets bought out, (God forbid he doesn't because NY basketball will be crap esp with a D'Antoni offense that will suit him perfectly), we wont be able to orchestrate a sign and trade for him because his contract is too big.

If you guys want to go against me, go right ahead. I understand a lot of you people think Marbury is trash and is no leader and all of that crap the media is feeding all of you. But from first hand and local experience, thats all bull. Besides, not so recently. the media was feeding us the same crap about Kobe, but we knew it was crap. So who would you believe? The local or the media? I rest my case brothers...and sisters...

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 4:34 am
by SashAlex
No way ! That's just senseless !

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 4:40 am
by Squirrel Boy
SashAlex wrote:No way ! That's just senseless !


What did I tell man? What did I tell you?

Didn't I tell you this was gonna happen.

Keep eating the crap the media feeds you.

As a local, I watch the pre game and post game conferences and all the stuff Marbury does. He is a great person and a great player. He just doesn't have the proper management and roster that can suit his style of play.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 6:06 am
by YiYaoYue
i think it would be great if he takes the minimum after being bought out and for the trouble throw in vlad or walton + mihm + ira newble + monetary compensation to knicks for another bad contract so that knicks get some decent players and get rid of 2 bad contracts and lakers get marbury and a bad contract player who just sits in the bench and won't be needed anyway.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 6:13 am
by milesfides
I'd have to agree. Marbury is a career 20 point 8 assist guy. He's only 31 years old. Big shot maker and taker, gutsy player. Not the best defensive point guard, but he's a hell of an offensive talent - one of the league's best.

This past year was a disaster for him and the Knicks. SB has a very valid point - Isiah Thomas is the main culprit in New York, he made that team a mess.

Marbury has some baggage though, mostly earlier in his career. With the Knicks, he's said mostly the right things, he's been a good soldier. Thomas did the unthinkable by benching him or threatening to bench him. That's Thomas's M.O.: cluelessness.

True, Marbury has at times clashed with his coaches in the past, but he was hardly the reason for the Knicks' troubles - in fact, I remember reading how he changed his game to accommodate Thomas, how he's deferred his offensive game to set up his teammates. I have no idea why Thomas would want to limit Marbury's minutes or bench him - he's by far their best player and playmaker - and Marbury was willingly sacrificing shots to accommodate Thomas's wishes.

But Marbury's been through a tough year. His father passed away in December. He had to testify regarding Thomas's sexual harassment suit, and some of Marbury's dirty laundry was aired in the process. Last year was a lost year for Marbury.

But how has he responded? According to a recent interview, Marbury has been training in LOS ANGELES, apparently climbing mountains and preparing to dominate. He also considered last year a learning experience that helped him to grow.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/lin ... 1552694719

Maybe there's too much about him, too much history, to give him another chance. Many wouldn't give him a chance in hell.

I would.

His talent is undeniable. He's kept in shape. He's focused on basketball. Regarding his personal issues, I tend to believe in the capacity for change.

I actually respect Marbury a lot. He's one hell of a competitor. This guy doesn't want to lose. He might not always play the right way, he might rub people the wrong way, but he wants to win. Sounds like a certain somebody on our team.

And before anybody mentions "ego" - Marbury has tremendous respect for Kobe Bryant. He asked Kobe for an interview on the Marbury show, which was a complete disaster, but Kobe actually showed up. I'm not sure whether Coby Karl would have showed up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwWDgdUhM7s

Marbury on Kobe: "Gotta show the kid in different light." "Gotta pay homage to the best."

"Why would he pass when he can score all the time? I'd want people around me that's just gonna let me- let him do him, like how they did Big Mike."

"We know who the best is, come on say it, let the truth be told."

I think Marbury has suffered from the same criticism directed towards Iverson. They're street, and they're not going to change or jive anybody. It's easy to misunderstand or refuse to understand them. It's easy to peg them as selfish players because of their competitive attitude and their offensive talent.

But everything I see about Marbury tells me that he's one hell of a fighter, competitor, and won't back down from anybody. Like Iverson, I believe they see later on in their careers how that kind of passion could be destructive at times, how that edge can be directed in the wrong ways. So they grow up.

Iverson has shown an entirely new level of maturity after he was traded to Denver. He's just much calmer, less controversial, focused on the game, mature. He just needed a change of scenery.

Same with Marbury, I feel. Like Iverson, Marbury passed the 30 mark, where he might get a better view of the world and how he fits in it.

Maybe he's a lost cause. But nobody knows. Marbury is the one who has to prove what the rest of his career is going to be like. We're just spectators speculating. You can stick a fork in him, or you can feel like there's a Rocky comeback in him.

To me? He's worth the gamble. What's it going to cost? Very little if he gets bought out. He still has everything going for him, except history. But the past can either make or break you, taunt you or exalt you. Kill you or build you.

I don't like to put a nail in anybody's coffin. Especially when that person is still young, talented, working hard, and his mind and heart seem to be in the right place. Forward.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 6:24 am
by dockingsched
u missed the best line:

"I can't score AND he's about to bust my ass, thats a hard pill to swallow"

:rofl:

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 6:49 am
by microfib4thewin
Maybe Marbury is misunderstood, but his attitude has never been about helping the team. He's 31 already and he still doesn't seem to figure it out that his loner persona isn't going to cut it. Nash and Kidd made the biggest turnaround for their franchises, what do they have in common aside from being a lock for HoF? Marbury was the previous PG, and neither the Suns nor the Nets made it to the playoff in his last season on both teams.

Let's say that Marbury did put his personal issues aside and focus on basketball, what pieces do we have to offer before the Knicks buyout his contract or just let it expire?

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 7:08 am
by Slava
After watching Steve Francis rot on the Rockets bench last season, I have a hard time trying to convince myself that Marbury isn't going down the same way. Its tough to be a role player considering the kind of talent these guys had but when the attitude is f'ed up I'd rather have Coby Karl than Steph.

Re: MARBURY!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 6, 2008 8:22 am
by kno
Squirrel Boy wrote:
Kno wrote:Great. Another non-defense playing, big ego player. Just what we need.

The man couldnt find playing time on one of the worst rosters ever. Chris Freakin Duhoin is replacing him.

Im not sure thats exactly what we need.


OK here we go with that crap.

I've been in New York and have been watching Knicks basketball all my life. All that ish you hear is crap,

Marbury is a really good person and a better captain. He is the leader of the team and helps his young boys out when they are in need.

He hasn't been put in the best of situations lately and he receives negative media attention to that.

I love the guy. He is the team. The idiotic staff and Isiah Thomas ruined the team for him and he couldn't do anything about it. They never should have traded Van Horn for Tim Thomas to begin with. A Marbury/Houston/Van Horn combo would have been solid and consistent. However, that was the beginning of many other horrible trades to come. Also, think about it this way, we would have been in the 2nd round in 06 because Tim Thomas was whatever team he was in back then.

Starbury is a two way player. He can give you offense and defense night in and night out. He is one of the most balanced point guards in the game. He is 6'3", 210 pounds of pure muscle and is wall. He can hold any 1, 2, or 3 in the post. He is a very strong player. And his offensive savvy, I dont have to say anything about it, he has shown you enough to know yourself.

However, with all that said, I doubt we get him because of his paycheck. Unless he gets bought out, (God forbid he doesn't because NY basketball will be crap esp with a D'Antoni offense that will suit him perfectly), we wont be able to orchestrate a sign and trade for him because his contract is too big.

If you guys want to go against me, go right ahead. I understand a lot of you people think Marbury is trash and is no leader and all of that crap the media is feeding all of you. But from first hand and local experience, thats all bull. Besides, not so recently. the media was feeding us the same crap about Kobe, but we knew it was crap. So who would you believe? The local or the media? I rest my case brothers...and sisters...


Im sorry SB, nothing against you, youre a great poster and Im sure you know I hold your opinions in high regard, but I just cant trust anything you say about one of your NY boys. lol. I know how much you got their backs and all of that. Look at the fantasy league we had. lol.