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I was thinking this for a while and I think it would be better if we start Radmanovic over Odom. I think if he can get his shot to go down then then nobody would double Bryant, Gasol, or Bynum and any given night. I feel that Odom should still get his minutes but in the second unit tho. He would be do fine, because they run at a faster pace allowing him to be in the open court more often. I was thinking some alnogs these line:

Starting 5:
Fisher, Bryant, Radmanovic, Gasol, and Bynum

Second unit:
Farmar, Vujacic, Ariza or Walton, Odom, and Powell

I know a lot may say the Josh Powell is to small to play center but they'll be playing at a faster pace which would cover up his size issue.

What do you guys think? Its just been some on my mind for a while.

It would be stupid to not even try the Long front-court.

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but it could work, its not like vlad has gotten any worse where it warrants not starting him, he's always been bad

joe.linnen wrote: I think if he can get his shot to go down

and if he doesn't does he stay a starter like last year?

I personally would try it. We need outside shooting to properly space the floor, and Odom doesn't really bring that. Odom's biggest contribution has always been rebounding (and to a much lesser extent play-making), which is something that won't be missed with Bynum and Pau in the front court. At the end of the day it comes down to filling needs, and Radman IMO fits at SF better than Odom does. Neither of them are all that great defensively, but with improved team defense it should help offset that weakness.

Having two 40% 3-point threats on the floor would work out quite nicely I think. That, and I actually trust Radman to take a last shot over Odom.

Having said that, I REALLY hope Ariza is spending lots of time working on his outside shot. IIRC, he's been working with Craig Hodges on his shot, so we'll have to see if that starts paying dividends next season. Defensively, he's better than both so all that's really missing is the consistent shot and triangle experience. If he can prove to be around at 37-39% long range shooter (consistently), then I wouldn't hesitate to swap him and Odom.

PS: I would actually have Odom playing the bulk of his minutes as the reserve PF. This allows us to use Pau at C when Bynum is resting or in foul trouble. I believe that's a better option than having Mihm play considerable minutes, and we already know it works seeing as how we made it to the Finals with a similar lineup. Odom can come in at SF around the 5 minute mark to relieve Radman, then when Pau goes to the bench for a rest around the 2 minute mark move Odom over to PF. As that happens we bring in Ariza to play SF. To start the 2nd, Bynum gets his rest and Pau comes in at C, allowing us to leave Odom at PF for a few more minutes. It'll be difficult to give him over 30 minutes a game though, unless we decide to bury Walton on the bench and limit Radman's playing time to around 20 minutes. We just have too many SF's on the team, unfortunately.

We are paying Olom 14 million and this is his contract year. So I do not think he wants to be seen as a player that is coming off the bench. RAdmanovic is better starting I do believe. It will be interesting to see how Phil gives all there time. It should be a fun camp and preseason.

Manu comes off the bench...are you saying that takes away from the fact he's one of the best players in the world?

2nd unit then like this?

Farmar
Sasha
Ariza/Luke
Odom
Powell/Mihm



That is much stronger than Farmar/Sasha/Ariza/Vlad/Powell

The biggest knock on Odom has been that he's inconsistant and his head isn't always in the game....

So you think we should replace that with RADMAN?!?!

I've seen nothing in Radman's time here to suggest that he isn't worthless for anything other than catching and shooting from about 4 places on the floor.

His decision making is horrible, he looks lost on D, and even from just 4 spots on the floor, he's inconsistant.

I like the idea of having Odom come off the bench, but I think the order should be,

Walton, Ariza, Radman at SF if Odom becomes a bench player....

For better or worse, I think Odom is still our best player at SF followed by a combination of Walton/Ariza.

I honestly don't know where Radman fits on this team if everyone is healthy... Sasha is our shooter off the bench... So???

radman over odom??

please..the last thing we need now is to give radman more minutes..starter minutes

Radman should never be a starter if we're looking to win the championship. He's a talented shooter, but I like what Lamar brings with his passing, rebounding and defense a whole lot more.

did star get another name change??

anywhoo, luke walton is going to leave radman deep on the bench.

radman over odom??

please..the last thing we need now is to give radman more minutes..starter minutes

+1
dump Radman

Right now, barring any spectacular improvement from any player, the best option is for Sasha to start at 2 guard and Kobe to start at the 3.

There is no better small forward than Kobe on this roster, and Sasha is the best shooter on the team, and he plays defense to boot.

I know we have a lot of small forwards on our team, but they all have some pretty significant weaknesses in terms of how they fit on our team (including Odom, who needs to show that he can shoot and not be a liability on the perimeter).

Sasha and Kobe would fit our team needs the best.

cavs will trade you guys wally + 2nd round pick for odom

wally is perfect for your system. hits the 3 ball huge, plays hard agressive defense and is also an expiring.

You guys have to be patient and open-minded since we have a pretty unique team. As much as I know joe.linnen likes bringing up some wack ideas most of the time, this one actually has substance in it as he and semi-sentiment supports the theory really well.

End of last season's line-up and rotation will be similar to begin with this upcoming season, meaning Bynum will come off the bench to begin with. But more importantly, expect LOTS of experimenting throughout the 1st half of the season.

I can already see it now, everyone crying about how Phil did this and that.

After the All-Star break, that's when you start seeing our real team. But until then, be patient and open-minded because our coach and players need the opportunity to see what works and what works well.

Lets do Sun over Kobe as well. Maybe DJ over Bynum? How about Luke over Gasol? He could do all the passing

milesfides wrote:Right now, barring any spectacular improvement from any player, the best option is for Sasha to start at 2 guard and Kobe to start at the 3.

There is no better small forward than Kobe on this roster, and Sasha is the best shooter on the team, and he plays defense to boot.

I know we have a lot of small forwards on our team, but they all have some pretty significant weaknesses in terms of how they fit on our team (including Odom, who needs to show that he can shoot and not be a liability on the perimeter).

Sasha and Kobe would fit our team needs the best.

You know, I was thinking about that as well, but then I thought of who Kobe would have to guard on the East side. I don't think he's done particularly well guarding Pierce or LeBron, and if we were to face either of them I think we'd be in trouble. If Kobe is expected to produce offensively, then there is no way we can expect him to hound those two all game long. Against the Cavs it might work because they have no answer for Bynum and Gasol, but against the Celtics, we'd be in serious doodoo.

Not knockin the poster, but why is this even a thought? I would really like to see Lamar with Pau and Andrew first. Semi is right Paul would bookey all over Vlad again causing our bigs to double or get in foul trouble.. Im cool on that. Lamar better put alot of the nay sayers to bed, because if aint bringin it...... *SIGH*, but I got faith in the kat that he's working out this summer.

After his performance in the Finals I hope I never witness Vlad pick up a basketball again. If he's not making his shots, which was rather often last season, he's useless. He makes NO EFFORT to play defense or rebound. Luke tries but lacks the speed and athleticism to guard the elite wing men of the league. Vlad does not love the game of basketball and doesn't have that passion for the sport.

Dexmor wrote:Lets do Sun over Kobe as well. Maybe DJ over Bynum? How about Luke over Gasol? He could do all the passing

And I bet you still wonder why we give you a hard time when you post something on the board. Its because of stupid post like this. All I was saying is that if Radmanovic can get his shot going then he would fit better in the starting line-up than Odom. On top of that Odom would be much better in the second unit because of the pace they play at, its more of a run and gun setting, which would be good for Odom's skill set. Stop being an A**HOLE, thanks.