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how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:18 pm
by TruSkool
they acquired baron davis and marcus camby in the offseason
they got zach randolph for a bunch of role players
and now they are seeking vince carter or gerald wallace
baron davis
al thornton
gerald wallace
zach randolph
marcus camby
that has the potential to be a top 4 team in the west
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:25 pm
by fareweatherfan
Respectfully, I couldn't disagree with you more...
Al is the only player on that team that is multi faceted (I'm now convinced Baron is content just being a chucker).
I don't even feel its necessary to go into Gerald Wallace (should the Clips get him) or Z-Bo (you're kidding with this one, right?).
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:57 pm
by TonyMontana

They are the West Coast version of the Knicks..... Thats All..... Dont lose any sleep over it.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:10 pm
by hermes
do you mean scary bad? aren't they like 1-9?
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:11 pm
by lakersfanatic
they have the potential, that id admit. but a central foundation.. they don't have it just yet. But with the pieces that they have, it'll be scary when they do lol.
I haven't seen the Clippers move around this much since .. forever.. so it must be exciting for the fans.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:14 pm
by doozyj
I though they were going to be scary with Baron, Camby, Kaman, Thorton etc, the team they had to start this season. On paper they look scary but in reality it's a different story. I think Dunleavy needs to just be the GM and hire a new coach perhaps Carlesimo (Thunders scape goat).
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:54 pm
by dockingsched
mike dunleavy turning into the isiah thomas of the west. big name, big contract, small results.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:08 pm
by tnayrbrocks
I think people are forgetting just how good bdiddy is. He doesn't look comfortable out on the floor just yet and when he starts looking comfortable the clippers will be a different team. And no, the clippers aren't the knicks of the west. New York had a problem with two low post players, guards that were unwilling to distribute, and poor defense. The clippers probably won't face those kinds of problems to the severity that the knicks did. They'll be scary, watch out.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:15 pm
by dockingsched
i didn't say the clippers are the knicks of the west, i said dunleavy was the thomas of the west. since he assumed gm duties (which was probably LAST yr), all he's done is acquiring big name players, usually on large contracts, without caring about team chemistry. baron davis, zach randolph, marcus camby, ricky davis, jason williams (retired)...all players with established names that don't live up to their actual production.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:07 pm
by tnayrbrocks
You didn't, others did. Outside of baron and camby, who have had success as key players on their respective teams, have been given significant roles. Anyway, on to chemistry. The clippers were a bare bone team when they acquired Davis and Camby, so how exactly does acquiring Davis and Camby hell even the other davis and jason williams disrupt chemistry? Thornton(at least not at this point in his career) and Kaman are guys you base your team chemistry on, Baron Davis is. That said, the clippers need a post player to throw the ball into. Kaman is nice, but Randolph is a more skilled post player. It's also nice that Camby is everything that Randolph isn't, while Kaman is somewhere in between the two. Chemistry seems to fit for me.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:31 pm
by triplethreatt
First of all, don't overvalue Randolph, he has been jettisoned from 2 teams on the cheap for a reason.
Baron is struggling because the Clips are trying to actually run a half court offense. He is at his best pushing the tempo and freestyling.
The Clips don't need Wallace or Carter to block Gordon's development. They should either throw Gordon into the starting lineup and let him learn on the fly, or find a stop-gap at SG (which Wallace and Carter are NOT, due to their long contracts). They could also use a coaching change. They need a coach that will fit the offense to the strengths of his team, not shoehorn players into his system.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:33 pm
by fareweatherfan
I normally only post when I feel like I have something insightful to add, but his time I just have to get one thing out:
Zach Randolph is complete garbage. I hope I don't read one more post complimenting him in any way. Can't we all just agree that he is complete garbage?
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:38 pm
by Sedale Threatt
Couldn't agree more. This is all you need to know about Zach Randolph:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvYf08X6tcYou'd be hard-pressed to find a player who has had less impact despite putting up great numbers. Some guys just don't get it, and he's one of them. Stephon Marbury and Derrick Coleman are/were two others.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:42 pm
by hermes
can't believe Isiah didn't bust out laughing at that, it would have been the right thing to do
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:44 pm
by Sedale Threatt
I have to commend Isiah. It took every ounce of self-control he had to not run onto the court and punch him in the face, yet he did it. Had he still been playing, and one of his teammates tried that, the dude probably would have ended up in a body bag.
BTW, I have to rank that play as one of my absolute favorites of all time. Right up with Kobe's alley-oop to Shaq against Portland and Magic's baby skyhook to beat the Celtics in 1987. The entertainment value is simply off the charts.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:27 am
by DEEP3CL
Clippers ain't doing nothing special.......................they'll always be little brother to the Lakers and will continue to be slapped around.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:06 am
by DubaLakers
Camby doesn't have what he had, but if they get wallace I'd buy in no one plays a lick of D on this team and none of the wings can hit a shot.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:40 pm
by Verbal
If the Clippers manage to get Vince Carter on their team it might be interesting to see whats up with "the team Baron Davis is on."
Whatever system they're running isn't working well.
Baron Davis (is capable of being a stud PG when healthy) can get himself off.. and Thornton can put up stats... but they don't have consistent outside shooters (among other things)... thus, they're f--ked.
But they have a very talented front court... bad news: only Camby is an established interior defender. (although Kaman is putting up blks this year)
Mobley was a nice perimeter defender that they had (at least he was 3 years ago). He's gone. So there goes your perimeter D.
Davis can't really run and gun like he did in GS b/c Kaman is Kaman and of course Randolph is more trigger happy than Sasha.
So on a team of ball dominant players and volume shooters... it's ez to predict how this pickup-team on steroids is gonna end up in the NBA.
To quote reject-semi-pro gamers, "FAIL!"
Dunleavy can be a good coach (he's also the GM now, I believe), but this team doesn't look like a playoff contender to me yet - especially out West.
They'll probably rack up the losses and gain XP this year... pick up a nice draft pick (well... maybe. Since Elgin Baylor is gone now, and he was the man mainly responsible for their nice picks from what I know)...
Maybe Sterling will be himself and end up building up young talent and keep watching them wash up onto other team's shores b/c he's too cheap to pay for talent... aka, "building talent for other teams" like Isiah Thomas, "builds championship contenders for other teams."
Hehehe.
Hahaha.
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:47 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
Clippers again...we do have an all around NBA thread right?
Re: how scary can the clippers be?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:40 pm
by AceFresh
Sorry,
I just don't see them being an elite team anytime soon.