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JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:36 pm
by TruSkool
1. they fill the void for marion...very precisely
2. defense has gone down the drain
3. run n gun offense is back
4. well rounded team
5. threat to the LA LAKERS
J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:36 pm
by Chubby Chaser
Well, I guess the pacific got a little tougher as the Suns got J Rich and Dudley for Diaw and Bell. I have no idea what the Cats are doing but they're getting raped in this trade. Maybe this means that the Cats have another trade in mind. Maybe they're blowing stuff up. Is this the time where we can get Gerald Wallace for Lamar??
DO IT MITCH!!
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... nline.html
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:51 pm
by fareweatherfan
I like this trade for the Suns, obviously.
It addresses one of their most pressing needs, a wing scorer. However, I've never been too high on JRich (he's nice, just not a huge difference maker, IMO) so I don't see this acquisition making too many waves out West.
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:36 am
by djericho
Just wondering, who's suppose to guard Kobe in that case? Sure they got better offensively but just like past years they're gonna come up short defensively, even with Shaq and Amare patrolling the paint.
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:36 am
by djericho
Just wondering, who's suppose to guard Kobe in that case? Sure they got better offensively but just like past years they're gonna come up short defensively, even with Shaq and Amare patrolling the paint.
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:39 am
by AceFresh
iki4life wrote:1. they fill the void for marion...very precisely
2. defense has gone down the drain
3. run n gun offense is back
4. well rounded team
5. threat to the LA LAKERS
Negative
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:46 am
by snaquille oatmeal
AceFresh wrote:iki4life wrote:1. they fill the void for marion...very precisely
2. defense has gone down the drain
3. run n gun offense is back
4. well rounded team
5. threat to the LA LAKERS
Negative
as long as Shaq plays for the Suns makes it a triple negative.
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:49 am
by Blackfyre
How are they threat to the Lakers ? They have stupid coach who doesn't know how to run offense and now they traded away their two last players who could defend at some level. They got better regular season team but that doesn't change the fact that Lakers will kill them in 7 game series.
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:50 am
by AceFresh
snaquille oatmeal wrote:AceFresh wrote:iki4life wrote:1. they fill the void for marion...very precisely
2. defense has gone down the drain
3. run n gun offense is back
4. well rounded team
5. threat to the LA LAKERS
Negative
as long as Shaq plays for the Suns makes it a triple negative.
haha correct.
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:50 am
by TonyMontana
I honestly think this is a bad trade.
You give away a decent defender in Bell, and Diaw has done a pretty good job for them so far, and I really dont think they are a threat to the Lakers more than the Clippers would be.
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:53 am
by TonyMontana
Repost and No it didnt.
Re: JRICH-->SUNS
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:37 am
by Chubby Chaser
TonyMontana wrote:I honestly think this is a bad trade.
You give away a decent defender in Bell, and Diaw has done a pretty good job for them so far, and I really dont think they are a threat to the Lakers more than the Clippers would be.
No. Although I agree that they still aren't a threat to us in the Pacific, the Suns definitely got better in this trade. Raja Bell hasn't been a good defender since three years ago. He's pretty much useless if Nash isn't setting him up. Terry Porter absolutely had no idea how to use Diaw, so he didn't. J Rich gives suns something that they've been lacking this whole season. A Viable offensive weapon that can create for himself instead of relying on Nash. Suns' lack of a wing player has been crippling their offense and now with J Rich their offense is going to get a nice boost. To say they got worse by giving up Bell and Diaw is ridiculous.
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:39 am
by AceFresh
they weren't gonna win with that team anyways
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:53 am
by ClubLakers KB8
I know I might get ostracized for saying this, but part of me thinks we should give Charlotte a ring and see the availability of Bell. Battle tested, money shooter, defender to back Kobe. He's a two-way Sasha. Instantly makes our bench better. I know his history with Kobe (even though they seem to be cool with each other), but one thing I like about the dude is that he doesn't back down. He's a little dirty, but so wasn't Boston... we need guys like that. A swagger if you will.
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:57 am
by Chubby Chaser
If we call up Charlotte it's going to be for Gerald Wallace, not Raja Bell.
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:51 am
by Dr Aki
suns got better offensively, making it harder the lakeshow especially because the lakers lack perimeter defense
but the suns srsly lost some defense, one of the reasons theyve resorted to playing zone defense against the lakers today
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:44 am
by Slava
There goes their already feeble bench down the drain.
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:11 pm
by Sting3r
lol Suns didn't get much better than they already are. JRich isn't a game changer. He has horrible handles and is always inconsistent with his outside and free throw shooting. The only thing he'll bring is athleticism on fast breaks that Marion use to bring.
But its not like the Suns were gonna go anywhere with the team they have now. They mines well shake some things a bit.
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:53 pm
by dockingsched
i don't think its as good for the suns as people are making it out to be. with nash/amare/shaq, jrich is going to be a role player. its one thing if they were still running, but they're not. as a 4th option role player, i'd rather have raja bell. raja brings the defense and the outside shot and as much flak as he gets, diaw is a good player that has killed the lakers before. they just became a weaker defensive team, and lakers fans should know all too well about the value of good defense.
Re: J Rich to SUNS. Pacific got TOUGHER
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:30 pm
by Gus McCrae
They got better for sure. Raja Bell is very overrated IMO, he was always big when they faced us in the playoffs, but since then, not so much. And jeez, J-Rich is so underrated it's not funny. He was HUGE in the Warriors/Mavs upset a couple years back and all fans from cities he's played love him. great trade for the suns.