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Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:48 pm
by lakeshow954
Kobe is still king of the NBA and its good to see someone can see it out there..while the whole world is in love with James.

http://www.playersvoice.com/nba/a-statement-made.html

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:13 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
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Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:39 pm
by vbonik
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thank u your majesty

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:40 pm
by MasterRyu
You know the problem with these types of articles/blogs is that they're all too reactionary. Meaning you only see them after a big win by said player or a stretch of good play. It's the same with a lot of the tv analyst talk. They adapt to what has transpired and then fit their analysis based on it, instead of the other way around.

Where are the articles when Kobe played bad? Where were the articles when Kobe choked in crunch time. My point is one or two games, or a couple of clutch shots are not enough reason to cement someone the best in the world. For example, in the Celtics game, one could argue that if Kobe wasn't sucking for three quarters, they would not have been in the situation in which he needed three miracle threes in the fourth to put the Lakers back in the fight.

People have good days and bad days. Kobe had relatively good days in both games, while Lebron clearly didn't. I mean sometimes your shots fall, sometimes they don't. Sometimes you get one in, purely on luck. I mean Kobe sucked last year against both teams, simply because he had off nights playing against them.

In the end, Kobe is the best player in the world. But not because of the games vs the Cavs or the Celts. Two games don't prove anything.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:07 pm
by lakeshow954
its all about who has more good days. I mean nate Robinson has 32 last night...but that doesnt make him a 30 point a night guy. He scores in the low teens so thats what he is a low teens guy who can score 30 on a given night. Kobe's body of work over his whole career is what he should be judge by. He is a 3 time champion and the most feared offensive player in the game. Even if he missed 30 shots in a row the opposing coach doesnt want him taking the 31st.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:39 pm
by crazyeights
MasterRyu wrote:But not because of the games vs the Cavs or the Celts. Two games don't prove anything.


Unless those are games four and five of the finals. :lol:

But thank you for the most patronizing post I've read in some time.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:55 pm
by kevin_405
Kobe was not at his best last year in the finals.. mostly because the team that we have this year is not the same as last year in the finals.. Ariza, Walton were both returning from injury and not at their best.. Kobe was recovering from a broken pinky.. Gasol only had a 3rd of the season with the Lakers.

We can already see that the lakers have worked out the defensive and offensive options against the Eastern teams and bar 2 losses to Olando (which were last shot losses) and the home loss to Detroit we have done well against the east..

I think this is a title run for Kobe to redeem his name after last years failure..

crazyeights wrote:
MasterRyu wrote:But not because of the games vs the Cavs or the Celts. Two games don't prove anything.


Unless those are games four and five of the finals. :lol:

But thank you for the most patronizing post I've read in some time.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:29 pm
by Speedlot
The world still thinks Kobe is > Lebron. It's just espn and realgm that thinks otherwise.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:50 pm
by fareweatherfan
I can't touch this debate at this time w/out writing a novel.

But I'll say this...I would pay a ridiculous amount of money to watch Kobe and Lebron play one-on-one live.

I can honestly say I have no idea who would win.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:00 pm
by djericho
fareweatherfan wrote:I can't touch this debate at this time w/out writing a novel.

But I'll say this...I would pay a ridiculous amount of money to watch Kobe and Lebron play one-on-one live.

I can honestly say I have no idea who would win.



maybe play HORSE @ next years all-star? if Lebron will do the dunk contest, I can see Kobe wanting to one-up....

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:01 pm
by magic1fan
kobe has been the best,but the media thinks his time has come and gone,and now it's on to the new flavor of the month. lebron is great,can't take anything away from him,but someof things i have seen kobe do is unreal.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:12 pm
by RASMARX
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Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:19 pm
by crazyeights
kevin_405 wrote:Kobe was not at his best last year in the finals.. mostly because the team that we have this year is not the same as last year in the finals.. Ariza, Walton were both returning from injury and not at their best.. Kobe was recovering from a broken pinky.. Gasol only had a 3rd of the season with the Lakers.

We can already see that the lakers have worked out the defensive and offensive options against the Eastern teams and bar 2 losses to Olando (which were last shot losses) and the home loss to Detroit we have done well against the east..

I think this is a title run for Kobe to redeem his name after last years failure..

crazyeights wrote:
MasterRyu wrote:But not because of the games vs the Cavs or the Celts. Two games don't prove anything.


Unless those are games four and five of the finals. :lol:

But thank you for the most patronizing post I've read in some time.


No clue what you're responding to exactly. If to me then you'll notice the :lol: meant it was a joke. Meaning two games do matter. I hope that was no blow to your ego about Kobe, and if you'll notice my name, sig, and avi all have something in common.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:21 pm
by crazyeights
RASMARX wrote:caption this picture

It's old


:lol:

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:22 am
by MrKnow-It-All
lakeshow954 wrote:its all about who has more good days. I mean nate Robinson has 32 last night...but that doesnt make him a 30 point a night guy. He scores in the low teens so thats what he is a low teens guy who can score 30 on a given night. Kobe's body of work over his whole career is what he should be judge by. He is a 3 time champion and the most feared offensive player in the game. Even if he missed 30 shots in a row the opposing coach doesnt want him taking the 31st.


I don't understand what Kobe's body work over his career has to do with the this topic, I understand Kobe has 3 rings, but he hasn't won in 7 years, he hasn't won since James entered the NBA so I think that's irrelevant.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:33 am
by MrKnow-It-All
There are things Kobe does better than LeBron and vice versa, I don't know exactly who's better but going off a 6 game road trip is not how you determine it. Not a very good article.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:12 am
by crazyeights
Oooohhhh suuuuurreee, alright mister kno-- oh. Nevermind.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:38 am
by Dr Aki
how about that turn around J over turiaf's outstretched arms?

that one sealed the game for the Lakers today

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:59 pm
by magic1fan
MrKnow-It-All wrote:
lakeshow954 wrote:its all about who has more good days. I mean nate Robinson has 32 last night...but that doesnt make him a 30 point a night guy. He scores in the low teens so thats what he is a low teens guy who can score 30 on a given night. Kobe's body of work over his whole career is what he should be judge by. He is a 3 time champion and the most feared offensive player in the game. Even if he missed 30 shots in a row the opposing coach doesnt want him taking the 31st.


I don't understand what Kobe's body work over his career has to do with the this topic, I understand Kobe has 3 rings, but he hasn't won in 7 years, he hasn't won since James entered the NBA so I think that's irrelevant.



no it's not irrelevant,because he has what lebron wants. not only is his all around game better,but he has already been to the mountain lebron is trying to get to. there is no way that three rings can ever be irrelevant,especially since this is really the only year he has had a championship caliber team since shaq left.

Re: Why Kobe is still better then Lebron article

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:40 am
by MrKnow-It-All
magic1fan wrote:
MrKnow-It-All wrote:
lakeshow954 wrote:its all about who has more good days. I mean nate Robinson has 32 last night...but that doesnt make him a 30 point a night guy. He scores in the low teens so thats what he is a low teens guy who can score 30 on a given night. Kobe's body of work over his whole career is what he should be judge by. He is a 3 time champion and the most feared offensive player in the game. Even if he missed 30 shots in a row the opposing coach doesnt want him taking the 31st.


I don't understand what Kobe's body work over his career has to do with the this topic, I understand Kobe has 3 rings, but he hasn't won in 7 years, he hasn't won since James entered the NBA so I think that's irrelevant.



no it's not irrelevant,because he has what lebron wants. not only is his all around game better,but he has already been to the mountain lebron is trying to get to. there is no way that three rings can ever be irrelevant,especially since this is really the only year he has had a championship caliber team since shaq left.


Its irrelevant for 2 reasons:

1. He wasnt the leader of any of those teams, Shaq was.
2. It was 7 years ago, we are talking about right now.

Also LeBron has never had a championship caliber team also, look at his team.