Lakers can't win unless Bynum is #3 and JF

[Dexmor]

Jordan Farmar is tied for 5th with Ariza on the team.

Bynum has to be the third best player on the Lakers or they don't have a chance. If Odom is our third best guy and Bynum doesnt stay hot then we won't beat the Nuggs and if we do the Cavs will kill us.

Now if Bynum goes back to awesome and is our 3rd best player and Odom goes back to being the 4th best player on the team and gets to come off the bench then there is only 1 thing left.

Jordan Farmar has to be tied with Ariza for our 5th best player on the team. If Fisher is out playing him and even Brown or it's so bad that some of you actually think Brown is better (still funny to me)
they can't win.

Farmar has to get big minutes at least 26 and get at least 10 points and a few assists and shoot well.

If Bynum and Farmar are on there games we go from total underdogs to the favorites again.

[TommyTheCat]

wow so basically bynum and farmar stepping up and playing well gives the lakers the best shot at a title.

great insight

[Kilroy]

I can understand these kind of reactionary, emotional, assumption laden posts from a nutty Lakers fan...

But I just don't get it fom someone who seems to root for other teams and other players all season and then is back to drop some knowledge in time for the playoffs... Maybe you should start a forum for your fantasy team...

Other than that, I'm not sure Denver and Cleveland have really been tested yet. It's way too early to legitimize those two teams as contenders right now. And we have no way of knowing how we'll match up to them at the moment because the playoffs are just different. Who would have thought Houston without Yao would have blown the Lakers out in a game, coming in? Or who would have thought the Bulls would have pushed Boston to 7?

[fareweatherfan]

Lmao at Denver beating us. EVERY matchup plays to our strenths in some way:

Billups/Fish - "slow" and strong guard -- the only type of player Fish actually has a shot of guarding.
Jones/Kobe - need I comment?
Melo/Ariza - our SF's have been very good against Melo, even Luke plays him well at times.
Martin/Gasol - Kenyon is garbage, plain and simple.
Nene/Bynum - Nene is a nice player but too small to guard Bynum and Bynum will let him shoot jumpers all day.

Benches - JR is playing well, but Sasha will do to him what he has done to Von Wafer this series. In the end, our bench is far superior, especially given the likelihood that Odom will move to the bench.

Go away with this nonsense.

[El Hardee]

Hey Star, can you change the name of the thread to "Lakers can't win unless Bynum and JF are Richard Jefferson"?

[kevin_405]

Bynum and Farmar increase our chances of winning.. but we are still contenders with out them..

Jordan Farmar is tied for 5th with Ariza on the team.

Bynum has to be the third best player on the Lakers or they don't have a chance. If Odom is our third best guy and Bynum doesnt stay hot then we won't beat the Nuggs and if we do the Cavs will kill us.

Now if Bynum goes back to awesome and is our 3rd best player and Odom goes back to being the 4th best player on the team and gets to come off the bench then there is only 1 thing left.

Jordan Farmar has to be tied with Ariza for our 5th best player on the team. If Fisher is out playing him and even Brown or it's so bad that some of you actually think Brown is better (still funny to me)
they can't win.

Farmar has to get big minutes at least 26 and get at least 10 points and a few assists and shoot well.

If Bynum and Farmar are on there games we go from total underdogs to the favorites again.

[MigrainePatrol]

The same stuff Barkley was spitting out... I think after the Denver series it doesn't matter cuz Cleveland / Boston have a week front line.

[TruSkool]

Lmao at Denver beating us. EVERY matchup plays to our strenths in some way:

Billups/Fish - "slow" and strong guard -- the only type of player Fish actually has a shot of guarding.
Jones/Kobe - need I comment?
Melo/Ariza - our SF's have been very good against Melo, even Luke plays him well at times.
Martin/Gasol - Kenyon is garbage, plain and simple.
Nene/Bynum - Nene is a nice player but too small to guard Bynum and Bynum will let him shoot jumpers all day.

Benches - JR is playing well, but Sasha will do to him what he has done to Von Wafer this series. In the end, our bench is far superior, especially given the likelihood that Odom will move to the bench.

Go away with this nonsense.

IMO, ur stretching

1. fisher cant fight through a screen if his life depended on it, and billups can make it rain like the rain man
2. the only SF who has done 'fairly' against melo was vlad rad, and hes gone. good luck to luke, and better luck to ariza.
3. bynum couldnt handle paul millsap too greatly, what makes you think nene will be different?


and if anyone can guess nene's original name without googling, i will give them a +1 =)

[The Skyhook]

Lmao at Denver beating us. EVERY matchup plays to our strenths in some way:

Billups/Fish - "slow" and strong guard -- the only type of player Fish actually has a shot of guarding.
Jones/Kobe - need I comment?
Melo/Ariza - our SF's have been very good against Melo, even Luke plays him well at times.
Martin/Gasol - Kenyon is garbage, plain and simple.
Nene/Bynum - Nene is a nice player but too small to guard Bynum and Bynum will let him shoot jumpers all day.

Benches - JR is playing well, but Sasha will do to him what he has done to Von Wafer this series. In the end, our bench is far superior, especially given the likelihood that Odom will move to the bench.

Go away with this nonsense.

IMO, ur stretching

1. fisher cant fight through a screen if his life depended on it, and billups can make it rain like the rain man
2. the only SF who has done 'fairly' against melo was vlad rad, and hes gone. good luck to luke, and better luck to ariza.
3. bynum couldnt handle paul millsap too greatly, what makes you think nene will be different?


and if anyone can guess nene's original name without googling, i will give them a +1 =)

When Andrew came back he looked really nice against Nene

[KObe Bryant]

No matter who is our 3rd best player and our 5th best player as long as they do their jobs and contribute to this team.

[fareweatherfan]

Lmao at Denver beating us. EVERY matchup plays to our strenths in some way:

Billups/Fish - "slow" and strong guard -- the only type of player Fish actually has a shot of guarding.
Jones/Kobe - need I comment?
Melo/Ariza - our SF's have been very good against Melo, even Luke plays him well at times.
Martin/Gasol - Kenyon is garbage, plain and simple.
Nene/Bynum - Nene is a nice player but too small to guard Bynum and Bynum will let him shoot jumpers all day.

Benches - JR is playing well, but Sasha will do to him what he has done to Von Wafer this series. In the end, our bench is far superior, especially given the likelihood that Odom will move to the bench.

Go away with this nonsense.

IMO, ur stretching

1. fisher cant fight through a screen if his life depended on it, and billups can make it rain like the rain man
2. the only SF who has done 'fairly' against melo was vlad rad, and hes gone. good luck to luke, and better luck to ariza.
3. bynum couldnt handle paul millsap too greatly, what makes you think nene will be different?


and if anyone can guess nene's original name without googling, i will give them a +1 =)

Alright, guess we have to agree to disagree b/c I disagree with your points and maintain mine. My responses to your number points:

1. True, but Billups is not a quick guard. He shoots off of screens, rather than driving the lane and just to break the D down (although he can do it from time to time). Do you really think he will get that slow shot off over Pau, Odom and Bynum (the most likely guys to be put in the pick n roll)? I don't.

2. While Vlad Rad did well this season, it was ONLY b/c of our help D. Melo is overrated IMHO. Barkley is off his rocker, saying Melo is the best scorer in the NBA. Please. It was the Mavs. Y'all remember what Kobe does to the Mavs, don't you?

3. Milsap cannot be compared to Nene. Two totally different players. Bynum owns the Nuggets! Offensively and defensively.

[Sedale Threatt]

Lmao at Denver beating us. EVERY matchup plays to our strenths in some way:

Billups/Fish - "slow" and strong guard -- the only type of player Fish actually has a shot of guarding.
Jones/Kobe - need I comment?
Melo/Ariza - our SF's have been very good against Melo, even Luke plays him well at times.
Martin/Gasol - Kenyon is garbage, plain and simple.
Nene/Bynum - Nene is a nice player but too small to guard Bynum and Bynum will let him shoot jumpers all day.

Benches - JR is playing well, but Sasha will do to him what he has done to Von Wafer this series. In the end, our bench is far superior, especially given the likelihood that Odom will move to the bench.

Go away with this nonsense.

IMO, ur stretching

1. fisher cant fight through a screen if his life depended on it, and billups can make it rain like the rain man
2. the only SF who has done 'fairly' against melo was vlad rad, and hes gone. good luck to luke, and better luck to ariza.
3. bynum couldnt handle paul millsap too greatly, what makes you think nene will be different?


and if anyone can guess nene's original name without googling, i will give them a +1 =)

I know his first name is Maybyner. The rest I can't remember.

Also, anybody who thinks Fish matches up well with Billups is insane. They must not remember when he destroyed us in 04. He's five years older, but still playing as well as he ever has. That's their biggest matchup advantage in my opinion.

[Slava]

and if anyone can guess nene's original name without googling, i will give them a +1 =)

isn't Nene his first name? Nene Hilario!

[The Laker Kid]

We want Tacos!

[magic1fan]

Lmao at Denver beating us. EVERY matchup plays to our strenths in some way:

Billups/Fish - "slow" and strong guard -- the only type of player Fish actually has a shot of guarding.
Jones/Kobe - need I comment?
Melo/Ariza - our SF's have been very good against Melo, even Luke plays him well at times.
Martin/Gasol - Kenyon is garbage, plain and simple.
Nene/Bynum - Nene is a nice player but too small to guard Bynum and Bynum will let him shoot jumpers all day.

Benches - JR is playing well, but Sasha will do to him what he has done to Von Wafer this series. In the end, our bench is far superior, especially given the likelihood that Odom will move to the bench.

Go away with this nonsense.

IMO, ur stretching

1. fisher cant fight through a screen if his life depended on it, and billups can make it rain like the rain man
2. the only SF who has done 'fairly' against melo was vlad rad, and hes gone. good luck to luke, and better luck to ariza.
3. bynum couldnt handle paul millsap too greatly, what makes you think nene will be different?


and if anyone can guess nene's original name without googling, i will give them a +1 =)

I know his first name is Maybyner. The rest I can't remember.

Also, anybody who thinks Fish matches up well with Billups is insane. They must not remember when he destroyed us in 04. He's five years older, but still playing as well as he ever has. That's their biggest matchup advantage in my opinion.

exactly. illups ate fisher and payton for lunch that series. he is strong has a good jumper and can post up. if we end uf having to double him it will open up everything for those guys.